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  • PR_Dave
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 2792

    #1

    Who is outsidebills.com numerous charges on my CC...

    I went to outsidebills.com and it is impossible to cancel or get any details on what I am being charged for.

    They are billing $12.95 USD each time.
  • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
    North Coast Pimp
    • Dec 2005
    • 9395

    #2
    Here we go again...

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    • dav3
      Confirmed User
      • May 2007
      • 7348

      #3
      sig spot locked
      Webmasters :: Juicy Ads :: ACWM :: Crak Revenue :: Money Tree

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      • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
        North Coast Pimp
        • Dec 2005
        • 9395

        #4
        Registrant:
        Darren Broadhurst
        Suite 122, 56 Tavistock Place
        P.O. Box 135
        London, WC1H 9RG
        United Kingdom

        Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
        Domain Name: OUTSIDEBILLS.COM
        Created on: 15-Oct-08
        Expires on: 15-Oct-09
        Last Updated on: 19-Nov-08

        Administrative Contact:
        Broadhurst, Darren
        Suite 122, 56 Tavistock Place
        P.O. Box 135
        London, WC1H 9RG
        United Kingdom
        +1.8007460238 Fax --

        Technical Contact:
        Broadhurst, Darren
        Suite 122, 56 Tavistock Place
        P.O. Box 135
        London, WC1H 9RG
        United Kingdom
        +1.8007460238 Fax --

        Domain servers in listed order:
        NS.ISPRIME.COM
        NS2.ISPRIME.COM

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        • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
          North Coast Pimp
          • Dec 2005
          • 9395

          #5
          IP Address: 76.9.26.120

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          • thunder99
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2003
            • 503

            #6
            No idea who they are, but the fact their servers are located in the Ukraine would not be a good sign.
            yeah, yeah

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            • mpahlca
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2004
              • 1821

              #7
              Same ip also has

              # Atmcashstop.com
              # Atmwidtrans.com
              # Bestbillpayment.com
              I could give two shits wether you read this sig or not.

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              • Sosa
                In Tushy Land
                • Oct 2002
                • 40149

                #8
                uh oh's .

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                • PR_Dave
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 2792

                  #9
                  I already did a whois.

                  What site and program is it for?

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                  • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
                    North Coast Pimp
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 9395

                    #10
                    http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=880048

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                    • quantum-x
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 6863

                      #11
                      http://www.soloconverts.com/
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                      • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
                        North Coast Pimp
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 9395

                        #12
                        http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...7&postcount=53

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                        • quantum-x
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 6863

                          #13
                          Too slow!
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                          • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
                            North Coast Pimp
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 9395

                            #14
                            Originally posted by quantum-x
                            Too slow!
                            As if there was a race...

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                            • spunky99
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 3462

                              #15
                              is there any actual site that your being billed for or are they just billing u for the fun of it?

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                              • jacked
                                sperm tail
                                • May 2004
                                • 11019

                                #16
                                found this warning on freeones board

                                Warning : ATMACCESS24.COM / SBVPAYMENTS.COM / OUTSIDEBILLS.com

                                2 pre-checked cross sales below the join/submit button with info about what you get at the bottom of the page!

                                Investigation turned out to be extra carefull when you join any of these sites



                                Websites from this company:
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                                might have signed up to one of their sites or got nailed with a prechecked cross sale most likely the latter
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                                • PR_Dave
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 2792

                                  #17
                                  How did soloconverts get my data?

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                                  • quantum-x
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2002
                                    • 6863

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Jon Clark
                                    As if there was a race...
                                    Race to the bottom
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                                    • tranza
                                      ICQ: 197-556-237
                                      • Jun 2003
                                      • 57559

                                      #19
                                      Oh my...!
                                      I'm just a newbie.

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                                      • potter
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2004
                                        • 6559

                                        #20
                                        3...2...1.. until random rep comes in to say he knows another rep who is a good guy and is working on this problem.

                                        6...5...4.. until that rep comes in and says it was a mistake and the problem is fixed

                                        9...8...7.. until it's found out that both those people used to work together and were a part of the same company

                                        12...11...10.. the denial begins and they never knew each other. then backpedal and admit to once, some time in a past life meeting once, backpeddal more and say they worked with a company who got caught for fraud and they don't use them anymore

                                        15...14...13.. another thread is started about the same thing. same company. same billers. same scam. and the process starts all over.

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                                        • potter
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2004
                                          • 6559

                                          #21
                                          Dave,

                                          Please. Find out all the information you can. Bundle it up into a very nice package. And send it to the FBI.

                                          I'm not kidding. This shit will never get solved on the boards. These people need to be investigated through a federal agency with international reach.

                                          http://www.fbi.gov/contactus.htm - they're available for you 24/7

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                                          • dial
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2006
                                            • 1225

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                            How did soloconverts get my data?
                                            as if you have to ask

                                            isn't swapping and banging cards pretty common these days?
                                            boom chicka wah wah

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                                            • Iron Fist
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Dec 2006
                                              • 23400

                                              #23
                                              Looks great The new economy is running just fine.
                                              i like waffles

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                                              • PR_Sebas
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2006
                                                • 2825

                                                #24
                                                Damn Dave, you've had some bad luck lately.

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                                                • angelsofporn
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                  • 3218

                                                  #25
                                                  This has nothing to do with Archivecash etc. We do not own this domain or have anything to do with it at all. For the record.

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                                                  • TeenCat
                                                    Too lazy to set a koala
                                                    • Jan 2007
                                                    • 16139

                                                    #26
                                                    oh lol angelsofporn you wrote that like all other scam websites belongs to program you represent, oh ... and i see this still more, does it means that scamming and charging peoples credit cards is popular in adult biz those days? oh cool then why sales are low, nobody will put his credit card anywhere cause of fuckers who are scamming others for every penny ... everyone who have cross sales etc need to be kicked hard at next webmasters meeting ... spank them and fuck them, nothing more those people deserve ...

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                                                    • quantum-x
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                      • 6863

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by TeenCat
                                                      oh lol angelsofporn you wrote that like all other scam websites belongs to program you represent, oh ... and i see this still more, does it means that scamming and charging peoples credit cards is popular in adult biz those days? oh cool then why sales are low, nobody will put his credit card anywhere cause of fuckers who are scamming others for every penny ... everyone who have cross sales etc need to be kicked hard at next webmasters meeting ... spank them and fuck them, nothing more those people deserve ...
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                                                      • TeenCat
                                                        Too lazy to set a koala
                                                        • Jan 2007
                                                        • 16139

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by quantum-x
                                                        i can tell right now what i have on my mind or i can say it correct with dictionary for all you metrosexuals, for me first choice is the winning one ...

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                                                        • MaDalton
                                                          I am Amazing Content!
                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                          • 39861

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                                          How did soloconverts get my data?
                                                          as far as i remember that's JimB of Incredible $ who got blamed by Glenn in the infamous video
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                                                          • Oracle Porn
                                                            Affiliate
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 24433

                                                            #30
                                                            can you please summarize all your threads pr dave?

                                                            you signed up to 1 paysite and since then getting your ass handed to you after every cc statement? or am i getting it wrong?


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                                                            • Robbie
                                                              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 20960

                                                              #31
                                                              Damn...how the hell do you keep doing this over and over and over? You must run wild with that credit card. Seems like every few weeks this is happening to you. What the hell man? You need to just do a chargeback on every one of those charges. God knows surfers never seem to have any problems doing chargebacks on legit sites (even when I look up their logs and see that they've been in the members area a thousand times lol )

                                                              Then call you credit card company and get a new card. And then NEVER use it again on the internet bro.

                                                              Simple steps, save you time and board drama
                                                              -Robbie
                                                              ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                              • Tom_PM
                                                                Porn Meister
                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                • 16443

                                                                #32
                                                                43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                                • BradM
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                  • 3397

                                                                  #33
                                                                  They bought your CC info, or paid someone else to bang your CC. Either way, it's stolen and fraudulent.

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                                                                  • marketsmart
                                                                    HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                                    • 20419

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by NwSebas
                                                                    Damn Dave, you've had some bad luck lately.
                                                                    if by bad luck you mean using your credit card to pay for a membership to a paysite..

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                                                                    • Roald
                                                                      SecretFriends.com
                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                      • 27910

                                                                      #35
                                                                      here we go again!!!!


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                                                                      • spacedog
                                                                        Yes that IS me. Bitch.
                                                                        • Nov 2001
                                                                        • 14149

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Would help to know what site you joined initially considering it would be there where this began. Was it an I$ site?

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                                                                        • PR_Dave
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                          • 2792

                                                                          #37
                                                                          These charges just started in January.

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                                                                          • HorseShit
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                                            • 17513

                                                                            #38
                                                                            it appears you are being taken

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                                                                            • dial
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2006
                                                                              • 1225

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                              Damn...how the hell do you keep doing this over and over and over? You must run wild with that credit card. Seems like every few weeks this is happening to you. What the hell man? You need to just do a chargeback on every one of those charges. God knows surfers never seem to have any problems doing chargebacks on legit sites (even when I look up their logs and see that they've been in the members area a thousand times lol )

                                                                              Then call you credit card company and get a new card. And then NEVER use it again on the internet bro.

                                                                              Simple steps, save you time and board drama
                                                                              I am pretty sure he did this a while ago specifically to CREATE board drama
                                                                              boom chicka wah wah

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                                                                              • Fucksakes
                                                                                Shit... Fuck! What the Hell?
                                                                                • Dec 2003
                                                                                • 7567

                                                                                #40
                                                                                your not suppose to use your c/c online.. havn't you learned :P

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                                                                                • PR_Dave
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                  • 2792

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Quick summary, out the blue I started getting charges in January from yourtech101.com - they charged my card again just last week and now getting multiple charges from outsidebills.com.

                                                                                  Both companies are charging $12.95 per transaction.

                                                                                  Last time this CC was used to join any paysite was in August 2008. No charges from August till the ones above in January.

                                                                                  That about sums it up. I have been accused of making all of this up and that I have a hidden agenda against the companies. Neither is true. I just hate the way the industry is going and it needs to get cleaned up.

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                                                                                  • potter
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                                                    • 6559

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                                                                    Quick summary, out the blue I started getting charges in January from yourtech101.com - they charged my card again just last week and now getting multiple charges from outsidebills.com.

                                                                                    Both companies are charging $12.95 per transaction.

                                                                                    Last time this CC was used to join any paysite was in August 2008. No charges from August till the ones above in January.

                                                                                    That about sums it up. I have been accused of making all of this up and that I have a hidden agenda against the companies. Neither is true. I just hate the way the industry is going and it needs to get cleaned up.
                                                                                    Contact the FBI!

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                                                                                    • Machete_
                                                                                      WINNING!
                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                      • 14579

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      if you want to see something funny, you should google some of the lines of text on the site, and see how many sites use the same text... like http://www.livemembersupport.com (wow - http://www.nichepay.com - what a surprice) and many more

                                                                                      If you then track emails and phonecalls, you will start to see a pattern
                                                                                      Last edited by Machete_; 02-19-2009, 10:36 AM.

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                                                                                      • Oracle Porn
                                                                                        Affiliate
                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                        • 24433

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                                                                        Quick summary, out the blue I started getting charges in January from yourtech101.com - they charged my card again just last week and now getting multiple charges from outsidebills.com.

                                                                                        Both companies are charging $12.95 per transaction.

                                                                                        Last time this CC was used to join any paysite was in August 2008. No charges from August till the ones above in January.

                                                                                        That about sums it up. I have been accused of making all of this up and that I have a hidden agenda against the companies. Neither is true. I just hate the way the industry is going and it needs to get cleaned up.
                                                                                        who did you signup to?
                                                                                        also if u dont mind me asking why would u signup to a paysite in the first place? was this a test? or?


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                                                                                        • KevinConverts
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • Oct 2008
                                                                                          • 1

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Hi Dave,

                                                                                          It's very simple to cancel a membership with us, it links right to net billing's cancel page.

                                                                                          Further more we do nothing fraudulent, test any of our sites you will never have any issue. We purchase x sells from various program's out there, and have discontinued a lot of our deal's since late last year. I'm assuming your charges are re bills. If you have any problem's canceling, please email me and I'll personally make sure you are canceled and refunded.

                                                                                          I'm not going to address the wild conspiracy theories that seem to never end on this board. All I will say is we have nothing to do with ArchiveCash, IncredibleDollars or any adult company for that matter.

                                                                                          Feel free to email me at: [email protected]

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                                                                                          • Ross
                                                                                            Ik ben een aap
                                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                                            • 18874

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                            Damn...how the hell do you keep doing this over and over and over? You must run wild with that credit card. Seems like every few weeks this is happening to you. What the hell man? You need to just do a chargeback on every one of those charges. God knows surfers never seem to have any problems doing chargebacks on legit sites (even when I look up their logs and see that they've been in the members area a thousand times lol )

                                                                                            Then call you credit card company and get a new card. And then NEVER use it again on the internet bro.

                                                                                            Simple steps, save you time and board drama
                                                                                            Are you really that dumb? Everyone on GFY knows you only have to sign up to the wrong site and your CC will be hammered multiple times. This seems to be another case of this.

                                                                                            I see you still try to make excuses for these type of companies tho Robbie.

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                                                                                            • Machete_
                                                                                              WINNING!
                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 14579

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by KevinConverts
                                                                                              Hi Dave,

                                                                                              It's very simple to cancel a membership with us, it links right to net billing's cancel page.

                                                                                              Further more we do nothing fraudulent, test any of our sites you will never have any issue. We purchase x sells from various program's out there, and have discontinued a lot of our deal's since late last year. I'm assuming your charges are re bills. If you have any problem's canceling, please email me and I'll personally make sure you are canceled and refunded.

                                                                                              I'm not going to address the wild conspiracy theories that seem to never end on this board. All I will say is we have nothing to do with ArchiveCash, IncredibleDollars or any adult company for that matter.
                                                                                              Feel free to email me at: [email protected]

                                                                                              no, you just bang their cards, we understand that by now

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                                                                                              • Robbie
                                                                                                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                                • 20960

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by dial
                                                                                                I am pretty sure he did this a while ago specifically to CREATE board drama
                                                                                                Why would he do that? Are you accusing him of some sort of reverse psychology spam? Like a "Other sites are crooked but not us" type spam? I don't think he'd do that.

                                                                                                But I am confused as to why he hasn't gotten a new card. I lost my American Express Platinum card at AVN. I called them. They immediately cancelled that card number, and then overnighted me a new card with a new number. I also don't understand why he doesn't just hit the chargeback on them. That's the best way to fuck someone that tried to take your money on your card without your authorization.

                                                                                                Go get 'em PR Dave! Charge back on those motherfuckers and get you a new card bro. Problem solved.
                                                                                                -Robbie
                                                                                                ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                                • Roald
                                                                                                  SecretFriends.com
                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                  • 27910

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by KevinConverts
                                                                                                  Hi Dave,

                                                                                                  It's very simple to cancel a membership with us, it links right to net billing's cancel page.

                                                                                                  Further more we do nothing fraudulent, test any of our sites you will never have any issue. We purchase x sells from various program's out there, and have discontinued a lot of our deal's since late last year. I'm assuming your charges are re bills. If you have any problem's canceling, please email me and I'll personally make sure you are canceled and refunded.

                                                                                                  I'm not going to address the wild conspiracy theories that seem to never end on this board. All I will say is we have nothing to do with ArchiveCash, IncredibleDollars or any adult company for that matter.

                                                                                                  Feel free to email me at: [email protected]
                                                                                                  Hey Kevin, I know you must be extremely busy but I am still waiting for that affiliate info you were going to send me. Remember, the one you canned from your program for fraudulent CC charges!!

                                                                                                  In case you forgot (what else could it be) please send it to roald @t freeones dot com

                                                                                                  Thnx


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                                                                                                  • Robbie
                                                                                                    Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                    • 20960

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Ross
                                                                                                    Are you really that dumb? Everyone on GFY knows you only have to sign up to the wrong site and your CC will be hammered multiple times. This seems to be another case of this.

                                                                                                    I see you still try to make excuses for these type of companies tho Robbie.
                                                                                                    Are you really that disrespectful? All I said was get a new card and chargeback those fraudulent charges. What's so hard about that? And I'll remember that "dumb" comment. Totally uncalled for.
                                                                                                    -Robbie
                                                                                                    ClaudiaMarie.Com

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