Quick summary, out the blue I started getting charges in January from yourtech101.com - they charged my card again just last week and now getting multiple charges from outsidebills.com.

Both companies are charging $12.95 per transaction.

Last time this CC was used to join any paysite was in August 2008. No charges from August till the ones above in January.

That about sums it up. I have been accused of making all of this up and that I have a hidden agenda against the companies. Neither is true. I just hate the way the industry is going and it needs to get cleaned up.

Contact the FBI!

if you want to see something funny, you should google some of the lines of text on the site, and see how many sites use the same text... like http://www.livemembersupport.com (wow - http://www.nichepay.com - what a surprice) and many more

If you then track emails and phonecalls, you will start to see a pattern

who did you signup to?
also if u dont mind me asking why would u signup to a paysite in the first place? was this a test? or?

Hi Dave,

It's very simple to cancel a membership with us, it links right to net billing's cancel page.

Further more we do nothing fraudulent, test any of our sites you will never have any issue. We purchase x sells from various program's out there, and have discontinued a lot of our deal's since late last year. I'm assuming your charges are re bills. If you have any problem's canceling, please email me and I'll personally make sure you are canceled and refunded.

I'm not going to address the wild conspiracy theories that seem to never end on this board. All I will say is we have nothing to do with ArchiveCash, IncredibleDollars or any adult company for that matter.

Feel free to email me at: [email protected]

Are you really that dumb? Everyone on GFY knows you only have to sign up to the wrong site and your CC will be hammered multiple times. This seems to be another case of this.

I see you still try to make excuses for these type of companies tho Robbie.

no, you just bang their cards, we understand that by now

Why would he do that? Are you accusing him of some sort of reverse psychology spam? Like a "Other sites are crooked but not us" type spam? I don't think he'd do that.

But I am confused as to why he hasn't gotten a new card. I lost my American Express Platinum card at AVN. I called them. They immediately cancelled that card number, and then overnighted me a new card with a new number. I also don't understand why he doesn't just hit the chargeback on them. That's the best way to fuck someone that tried to take your money on your card without your authorization.

Go get 'em PR Dave! Charge back on those motherfuckers and get you a new card bro. Problem solved.

Hey Kevin, I know you must be extremely busy but I am still waiting for that affiliate info you were going to send me. Remember, the one you canned from your program for fraudulent CC charges!!

In case you forgot (what else could it be) please send it to roald @t freeones dot com

Thnx :thumbsup

Are you really that disrespectful? All I said was get a new card and chargeback those fraudulent charges. What's so hard about that? And I'll remember that "dumb" comment. Totally uncalled for.

50 .... look at MEEEEe

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I think it`s time for FBI. These carding crooks need to be jailed and assfucked by nignogs

:2 cents:

:thumbsup

I'd love to see Kevin respond and explain this.

It's the "rouge owner" defence. These companies have quite a high management turnover.

What I am going to say will sound absolutely horrible but... did you by any chance sign up to one of your own sites and took the xsales?

bad roboform. very bad :(

This is complete bullshit. I hope you get reimbursed like you were promised. Do you think anyone affected by something like this will ever signup on a paysite again?

There is only 1 x-sell and it goes to our own product.

I've got a feeling there will be more turnover coming soon.

Dave, come on man! You need to quit getting so drunk that you don't remember pulling out your card in the middle of the night.

Ok, just checking - because I got screwed over once after signing up to one of your sites (AdultElite actually, PunkRockGirlfriend). I had about 5 xsales all of which I cancelled, yet I got to a fake cancellation page for Brazzers with no confirmation, and another cancellation page WITH confirmation, that was still open as "open gateway for delayed settlement", 5 months later.

Also, there was a charge for 39.95 to eelimite.com around 4 months after said sign up - on the day before said domain was even registered (a domain harvester registered the domain after a lot of people were googling for that term because they had been scammed too). And the only other places where I had used that card had been domain registrars, and content stores that have been years in the business.

my point was he purposely signed up for one paysite to see how many times his card got charged, and he has been reporting it on the boards for quite some time now

so, yes, he purposely signed up to create board drama against the companies that are trying to scam him

That's ArchiveCash

exiting archivecash... stage right snagglepuss

In addition to this, Dave knows the real story here, but is milking it for everything it's worth because he believes any bad publicity for other programs is good publicity for his own. Maybe one day Dave can come clean on this whole thing.

And that is?

There was a small period of time we sent our x-sells to Brazzers. I can't speak for how they conduct their business.

obviously there is no "real story" or you would have explained that further :error

That's your job not mine. No such thing as bad publicity... is there Dave?

I'm not saying it was Brazzers who screwed me over nor that you are in on it in any way... although you must admit that xselling to companies that "you don't know how they conduct their business" is irresponsible...

What I am saying is that there was a big number of crosssales on that sign up, including cancel form xsales and xsales at entry to the member's area, and that at least one of them must have been responsible for the bogus charge and the open settlement thing down the line. I cancelled that card so I am unable to verify whether there were more charges. My whole point was just that if you accepted a xsale at that sign up you made in August, you could be still getting banged by xsales of xsales of that program.

That is why we are 100% internal. Trust in b2b is not there anymore.

LOL @ the people who think Dave is joining porn sites to get his rocks off, he owns a hundred or so sites with great content he can rub one out to if he wants to. he no doubt like other webmasters has done an experiment with a card of his own to see just how nasty and criminal some programs have become.

this shit isn't just shady - it's fucking criminal - somebody's going to jail eventually.

ol' Diamond Jim is doing how many months/years in a federal prison? he played the game and lost - one or two of these current clowns will do serious jail time down the road as well but most will walk away free and easy with millions in the bank.

No offense intended but how does a Canadian benefit from the FBI?

Wow, first time in a thread like this where you aren't defending the scammers. Amazing.

Actually i read that wrong. You ARE defending the scammers...as usual.

So no suprise here.

Nichepay is Archivecash right?

I really fucking wonder why Robbie is attracted to these threads like flies to shit so he can defend the scammers and scum. He almost does it blindly. Like it doesn't even matter who the scammers are and what they did, he will be in that thread asap to defend them. It's really REALLY weird behaviour and i really wonder why he does that. I can only think of one explanation and that is that he might be involved in this shit himself. What possible other reason could there be for his behaviour?