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vasten · 11-17-2002, 06:19 AM

Hi,

I am rather new to this board, and communityin general. I was just browsing thru all the old posts I have missed in the last few days, and I noticed several post about Nzdesignz.

These posts caught my eye because I recently contracted him to do some designz for me (TGP site Layouts). Now it appears that he has a aless than perfect history, I have no clue what the details are. And it is quite likely that had I known this ahead of time I probably wouldn't have contracted him. But I dont regret it.

Dan underbid everyone who bid for the contract. He provided me with great designs, better then I was expecting even. for an AWESOME price. He was flexible and fast.

Now I personally wont vouch for anyone but myself, I dont place my reputation on the shoulders of others, my word is my word.

But I will say this, I will be usuing him in the future, and if anyone asks me for a designer, he will be recomended. There is always a chance I could recomend someone I shouldnt, and thats a risk everyone takes whenever they recomend someone.

But I do believe that IF there were issues in the past, that, from the result I recieved, this is man who is trying to do good business. And If he needs a second chance, I feel he deserves it.

I dont wana get into, he said she said, what he has done in the past. I personally believe in second chances, and I feel he deserves it.

Thats all I have to say,
Thank you all for your consideration.

Vasten.

marty · 11-17-2002, 06:34 AM

Nzdesignz fanclub

Members - 1

ControlThy · 11-17-2002, 06:40 AM

Sweet.
But I think NZdesigns needs a bit more people writing positive things about him before his position and reputation improves in this business.

vasten · 11-17-2002, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by marty
Nzdesignz fanclub

Members - 1

Fanclub?

Man was that was some kind of witty remark.

C'mon, I'm trying to be serious. I love to fuck around just like everyone else, but when push comes to shove, I think people come first.

The only thing I'm saying is he has produced, and well. He came thruwith his promises, and delivered quality work. If that doesnt entitle someone to a second chance, what does. The eeffort was there.

I dont wanna get into any childish games on this one. If you have personal issues with him, at least be amture about this one.

I dont know him personally at all, I'm not even on a first name basis with him, but I do feel if he has had issues in the past, he is at least TRYING.

vasten · 11-17-2002, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ControlThy
Sweet.
But I think NZdesigns needs a bit more people writing positive things about him before his position and reputation improves in this business.

Thats fine, I'm just letting everyone know, he HAS rpoduced, ontime, and with quality.

Your opinion is yours. and don't get me wrong, I completly understand that there are people who have done things in the past that would make it hard to get back into the game with a decent rep. And it's almost impossible to sompletly live down a reputation. And if I had known, It's most likly i wouldt have even hired him.. But the thing is, It doesnt matter.. It all worked out.

I'm just trying to let you guys know that mabye you should consider a second chance for him.

Thank you for understanding what it is I'm saying.

DarkJedi · 11-17-2002, 06:55 AM

would you mind showing us the work that he did for you ?

chodadog · 11-17-2002, 07:09 AM

I think a TGP is about the only thing that hack would be capable of actually creating.

Nysus · 11-17-2002, 07:48 AM

He got what he paid for, and 'more than he expected' and promptly - so it doesn't matter if all he did was tgp designs, that is what he paid for... if you pay someone to do a paysite, and you don't like their portfolio of paysites, then it'd be your own fault for hiring them..

Cheers,
Matt

Counter sex with Sex Counter! 1..2..3

vasten · 11-17-2002, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
would you mind showing us the work that he did for you ?

I will definatly post the urls... I only have one of them up.. and i have not fillied it in completly yet.. but here is one of he tgp designs..

http://www.sarahstgp.com

vasten · 11-17-2002, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chodadog
I think a TGP is about the only thing that hack would be capable of actually creating.

I dont know.. mabye it is... I'm not gonna say he can design anything else.. because I DON'T KNOW.

Oviously you don't like him.

Slander is a real sign of a persons character.

Hooterdog · 11-17-2002, 08:05 AM

<BR>
you paid for that??

Chapter7 · 11-17-2002, 08:08 AM

vasten · 11-17-2002, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooterdog
<BR>
you paid for that??

I paid practically nothing for it.. I know what the going rate is... and he did it for well under the going rate of 50$...

I got more than I paid for..

I paid for simple and fast designs.. I got simple and fast designs cheaper than I could anywhere else.

I'm not endorsing his skills.. god knows I'm far from a designer and no expert in the field.. All I know is he satisfied me thoroughly in a business sense.. what else is there to it?

DarkJedi · 11-17-2002, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vasten

I will definatly post the urls... I only have one of them up.. and i have not fillied it in completly yet.. but here is one of he tgp designs..

http://www.sarahstgp.com

OMG.
You payed fior THAT ?
Allow me to be the first one to inform you that you have been had.

P.S.

He spelt Brunetts wrong (it should be: Brunettes)

Nysus · 11-17-2002, 08:12 AM

vasten,

Not sure how long you've been browsing GFY for, but most of these people only breath to be bitches.

Cheers,
Matt

Ho ho ho hosting!

Chapter7 · 11-17-2002, 08:13 AM

Peux-j'avoir quelque fromage?

vasten · 11-17-2002, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi

OMG.
You payed fior THAT ?
Allow me to be the first one to inform you that you have been had.

P.S.

He spelt Brunetts wrong (it should be: Brunettes)

HELLO!!!

I cant even design nearly as good as that.. I'm a programmer... I HAVE to pay someone, but i DONT want anything more than that. How much would you charge me for that? I guarauntee you wont be willing to do it as cheap as he did.

Why can't you guys understand this, I dont care what you think of the quality of the design.. I GOT WHAT I WANTED.. if you dont think he can make what you want... the dont hire him. I'm not saying 'Hire this guy, he is a great designer'.. I'm saying, he produces and he gave me a good deal.

Besides, I would not even suggest you even consider my opinion when it comes to design.. I dont have designs skills.. and I don't really know what good design involves.. I know what someone who does good business is.. and i know he lived up to my expectations for a contractor who tries to please his clients.

END OF ISSUE.

vasten · 11-17-2002, 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by Chapter7
Peux-j'avoir quelque fromage?

quel genre du fromage vous aimez ?

Chapter7 · 11-17-2002, 08:39 AM

ControlThy · 11-17-2002, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chapter7
feta

Je prefere "President" et "Boursin".

vasten · 11-17-2002, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chapter7
feta

I prefer cottage... especially when it's harvested from bedsheets of content providers

vasten · 11-17-2002, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nysus
vasten,

Not sure how long you've been browsing GFY for, but most of these people only breath to be bitches.

Cheers,
Matt

Ho ho ho hosting!

Not a big surprise lol.

Undutchable · 11-17-2002, 09:05 AM

I could make a design like that in 30 minutes... I'd do it for $35 bucks

Maybe he charged you less but this is hardly any work. Not that it matters, it seems that you're satisfied so it's allll good

Jakke PNG · 11-17-2002, 09:23 AM

I want clients like vasten.

GotGauge · 11-17-2002, 09:36 AM

Please post his other works
he said he did as a designer..

*the ones he showed you, to get your business*

flashfreak · 11-17-2002, 09:52 AM

What is wrong with you people? I have to agree that he made big mistakes but who doesn't? I'm sure he regrets his past posts...
I'm not trying to defend him but I can't stand and look how some greedy sharks try to steal his clients posting stuff like: "I want clients like vasten", "I can make it for $35"...

this thread has nothing to do with your spams, why don't you start your own thread :"I will do 100 TGPs for a hamburger" ? Respect yourself and then expect others to respect you...

deleteduser · 11-17-2002, 10:08 AM

what i dont understand is: why do you post this here?

i mean, you wanna help him and bring his reputation back but all you show us that you have obivously no idea of design and you are happy about this rip-off work. sorry mate but this is just stupid.

Gramma · 11-17-2002, 10:09 AM

I've used nzdesigns myself.
I didn't know there WAS a bad reputation to be considered. What he's done for me has been good. He's been respectful and eager to please. He's worked for me several times, and I've always been happy with what I got from him. He's always reasonably priced, and gets the stuff down on time. He did an AVS site for me (maturelibrary.com)- plus banners, and he's doing some gallery templates for me now.

I use more than one designer - depending on what I want done -
Just as I don't use more than one processor, or one sponsor, or even one host. But I will use nz again when the need arises in the future.

Other designers that I've used that I've heard about from this board
ZayneE - this man is genius
hungryman < in progress
va2k - gallery templates
Mark2000 - did the gramma image logo for grammacash & a new one for a nonadult site we're working on www.scariest.com
Marty from AdultOne - my first professional designer that I would use MORE if he'd answer his damn mail

This guy has the most unique way of looking at things and is really DAMN clever.

Jakke PNG · 11-17-2002, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak
What is wrong with you people? I have to agree that he made big mistakes but who doesn't? I'm sure he regrets his past posts...
I'm not trying to defend him but I can't stand and look how some greedy sharks try to steal his clients posting stuff like: "I want clients like vasten", "I can make it for $35"...
this thread has nothing to do with your spams, why don't you start your own thread :"I will do 100 TGPs for a hamburger" ? Respect yourself and then expect others to respect you...

Aww shut up.
Besides, I don't really need to steal anyones customers, I have plenty of work already thank you very much.

Fletch XXX · 11-17-2002, 10:29 AM

You dont rip people off here and then 'get better'

hes a crook, be sure he didnt rip off your design from someone else.

vasten · 11-17-2002, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CeKilleR
what i dont understand is: why do you post this here?

i mean, you wanna help him and bring his reputation back but all you show us that you have obivously no idea of design and you are happy about this rip-off work. sorry mate but this is just stupid.

It wasnt a rip off.. that is the point.. i got my moneys worth... He provided me with MORE THAN WHAT I PAID FOR... I posted because i noticed the other threads, I just felt like standing up and saying

'Hey, I dont know about his past. But he has definatly produced, and satified me as a client"

Wouldn't you if you were in my shoes, I have been a contractor.. and I would like to think that if I were in shoes simmilar to his, clients for whom i have provided quality work for would do the same.

GotGauge · 11-17-2002, 11:01 AM

Can you post some other examples?
Ones he might of shown you,
to get you to hire him as a designer?

Fletch XXX · 11-17-2002, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GotGauge
Can you post some other examples?
Ones he might of shown you,
to get you to hire him as a designer?

as for that 'sarah tgp'

I can tell you where he got the scrollbar.

hahaha

http://orchiddesigns.com/freesites/n...ies/index.html

Fletch XXX · 11-17-2002, 11:50 AM

Am I think only one who sees a simliarity between these?

http://orchiddesigns.com/freesites/n...ies/index.html

http://www.sarahstgp.com

?

Jakke PNG · 11-17-2002, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Am I think only one who sees a simliarity between these?

http://orchiddesigns.com/freesites/n...ies/index.html

http://www.sarahstgp.com

?

Well.. let's see now:

From SpyCam's design, CSS:

BODY {
SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: #CA04CB;
SCROLLBAR-HIGHLIGHT-COLOR: white;
SCROLLBAR-SHADOW-COLOR: #660666;
SCROLLBAR-3DLIGHT-COLOR: #660666;
SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: black;
SCROLLBAR-TRACK-COLOR: #81007F;
SCROLLBAR-DARKSHADOW-COLOR: black

From the TennisAce design... :

BODY{

SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: #CA04CB;
SCROLLBAR-HIGHLIGHT-COLOR: white;
SCROLLBAR-SHADOW-COLOR: #660666;
SCROLLBAR-3DLIGHT-COLOR: #660666;
SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: black;
SCROLLBAR-TRACK-COLOR: #81007F;
SCROLLBAR-DARKSHADOW-COLOR: black}

Sure.. it's just a coincidence

Nice catch Fletch.

Tipsy · 11-17-2002, 12:05 PM

You gotta love a post trying to show he's no longer a cheating scumbag that only ends up proving he's one.

Nicely done Fletch.

NzDesignz · 11-17-2002, 12:54 PM

Thanks for the posts gramma, flashfreak and vasten, appreciate it.

I will not get into a argument TeenGodFather but that is how I layout all my styles How the fuck else are you meant to lay them out. It is a nice clean html then and if my client wants to edit it they can. Just face it I am trying my best to make people happy, obviously I will never please some of you but that is ok.

But thanks again Gramma, Flashfreak and Vastan

Amputate Your Head · 11-17-2002, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vasten
I'm just trying to let you guys know that mabye you should consider a second chance for him.

I'm all for 2nd chances too... but that KID has had his 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th chances in less than a year, and the story is always the same.

Jakke PNG · 11-17-2002, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NzDesignz

I will not get into a argument TeenGodFather but that is how I layout all my styles How the fuck else are you meant to lay them out.

Umm.. like maybe use different colors than the site you copied them from, or is it cheer luck you happened to choose the exact same HEX values? ..also, you didn't use hex values in all the spots, but used 'white' and 'black' in the same spot as the site you took them from, why? If you take something off some sites, I suggest (for your own sake) that you would modify them a bit even. This thread is a joke.

Also.. are you trying to say the toplist isn't 100% copy from Spycam's?

I don't hold a grudge against you Tennis, but you're making a joke out of yourself trying to deny the facts. Stop while you can.. I don't know if you can anymore though.

AaronM · 11-17-2002, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GotGauge
Can you post some other examples?
Ones he might of shown you,
to get you to hire him as a designer?

Sure thing. I think he did some work for my buddy TheSpaceBulldog. He is no longer using this design but I saved it for future reference.

Here it is.

Amputate Your Head · 11-17-2002, 01:04 PM

nice.... now he's jacking Spycam's stuff.... lol

Undutchable · 11-17-2002, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak
What is wrong with you people? I have to agree that he made big mistakes but who doesn't? I'm sure he regrets his past posts...
I'm not trying to defend him but I can't stand and look how some greedy sharks try to steal his clients posting stuff like: "I want clients like vasten", "I can make it for $35"...
this thread has nothing to do with your spams, why don't you start your own thread :"I will do 100 TGPs for a hamburger" ? Respect yourself and then expect others to respect you...

I was just saying what it was worth... I'm not trying to steal anything, actually if you've read my other posts about NzDesigns, you'll find that I was quite objective about the whole thing

I honestly don't give a shit, I don't rely on others for my succes nor do I need to disrespect others. I'm just here for entertainment.

Amputate Your Head · 11-17-2002, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak
What is wrong with you people? I have to agree that he made big mistakes but who doesn't?

He seems to be getting very good at making mistakes and then begging forgiveness....

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak
I'm sure he regrets his past posts...

I'm sure he doesn't..... he's too young and too stupid to realize what the fuck he's doing... he's all about making a quick buck. He needs to go back to living off daddy's money and playing fucking tennis, and get the fuck out of the adult realm.

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak

I'm not trying to defend him but I can't stand and look how some greedy sharks try to steal his clients posting stuff like: "I want clients like vasten",

I think that was said more in the context of 'vasten didn't expect very much for his money, and I'd like to have clients LIKE that'....

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak
"I can make it for $35"...

I don't see anything wrong with that statement.... I can too.... and I've done alot MORE for a lot LESS.

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak

this thread has nothing to do with your spams, why don't you start your own thread :"I will do 100 TGPs for a hamburger" ? Respect yourself and then expect others to respect you...

as far as this goes..... I hope every designer there is comes in here and spams in this thread.... tennisace deserves as much respect as he's given. .... ZERO.

Jakke PNG · 11-17-2002, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

I think that was said more in the context of 'vasten didn't expect very much for his money, and I'd like to have clients LIKE that'....

Yes. That is indeed what I ment. I didn't mean I wanted vasten to change teams and be my client

Machete_ · 11-17-2002, 01:51 PM

could someone please compare "vasten" and "Nzdesignz" IP-adress -- smells to much of a marketing stunt

Jakke PNG · 11-17-2002, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ebus_dk
could someone please compare "vasten" and "Nzdesignz" IP-adress -- smells to much of a marketing stunt

I actually thought of the exact same thing.

machineg · 11-17-2002, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Am I think only one who sees a simliarity between these?

http://orchiddesigns.com/freesites/n...ies/index.html

http://www.sarahstgp.com

?

dude, as much as I wanted to disagree with you I can't ,

I dunno looks the same to me, maybe a bit of color adjustment but the background "scanlines" match up perfectly across the two sites , fuck man , almost the same site entirely

machineg · 11-17-2002, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather

I actually thought of the exact same thing.

no they arent , I have talked with both of them ,

trust me on this they are not the same person

Machete_ · 11-17-2002, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by machineg

no they arent , I have talked with both of them ,

trust me on this they are not the same person

must -at least- belong to the same inbread family

sexmanic · 11-17-2002, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
You dont rip people off here and then 'get better'

hes a crook, be sure he didnt rip off your design from someone else.

maybe he found god, sobered up, and tried making ammends for his wrong doings.

(edit) then fell off the wagon again.

11-17-2002, 06:19 AM	#1
vasten Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Edmonton Canada Posts: 107	Nzdesignz Hi, I am rather new to this board, and communityin general. I was just browsing thru all the old posts I have missed in the last few days, and I noticed several post about Nzdesignz. These posts caught my eye because I recently contracted him to do some designz for me (TGP site Layouts). Now it appears that he has a aless than perfect history, I have no clue what the details are. And it is quite likely that had I known this ahead of time I probably wouldn't have contracted him. But I dont regret it. Dan underbid everyone who bid for the contract. He provided me with great designs, better then I was expecting even. for an AWESOME price. He was flexible and fast. Now I personally wont vouch for anyone but myself, I dont place my reputation on the shoulders of others, my word is my word. But I will say this, I will be usuing him in the future, and if anyone asks me for a designer, he will be recomended. There is always a chance I could recomend someone I shouldnt, and thats a risk everyone takes whenever they recomend someone. But I do believe that IF there were issues in the past, that, from the result I recieved, this is man who is trying to do good business. And If he needs a second chance, I feel he deserves it. I dont wana get into, he said she said, what he has done in the past. I personally believe in second chances, and I feel he deserves it. Thats all I have to say, Thank you all for your consideration. Vasten. __________________ ATTENTION : If you are reading this you could have already been victimized by spam. !! Please report to the nearest liquor vendor for deprogramming. !!

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11-17-2002, 09:23 AM	#24
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	I want clients like vasten. __________________ ..and I'm off.

11-17-2002, 06:34 AM	#2
marty Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,656	Nzdesignz fanclub Members - 1

11-17-2002, 06:40 AM	#3
ControlThy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,909	Sweet. But I think NZdesigns needs a bit more people writing positive things about him before his position and reputation improves in this business.

11-17-2002, 06:55 AM	#6
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	would you mind showing us the work that he did for you ?

11-17-2002, 07:09 AM	#7
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	I think a TGP is about the only thing that hack would be capable of actually creating.

11-17-2002, 07:48 AM	#8
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	He got what he paid for, and 'more than he expected' and promptly - so it doesn't matter if all he did was tgp designs, that is what he paid for... if you pay someone to do a paysite, and you don't like their portfolio of paysites, then it'd be your own fault for hiring them.. Cheers, Matt Counter sex with Sex Counter! 1..2..3 Last edited by Nysus; 11-17-2002 at 08:12 AM..

11-17-2002, 08:05 AM	#11
Hooterdog Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cincy Posts: 602	<BR> you paid for that??

11-17-2002, 08:12 AM	#15
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	vasten, Not sure how long you've been browsing GFY for, but most of these people only breath to be bitches. Cheers, Matt Ho ho ho hosting!

11-17-2002, 09:05 AM	#23
Undutchable Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,217	I could make a design like that in 30 minutes... I'd do it for $35 bucks Maybe he charged you less but this is hardly any work. Not that it matters, it seems that you're satisfied so it's allll good

11-17-2002, 09:36 AM	#25
GotGauge Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: USA Posts: 3,072	Please post his other works he said he did as a designer.. the ones he showed you, to get your business __________________ ICQ 22264474 [email protected]

11-17-2002, 09:52 AM	#26
flashfreak Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cloud number 9 Posts: 4,396	What is wrong with you people? I have to agree that he made big mistakes but who doesn't? I'm sure he regrets his past posts... I'm not trying to defend him but I can't stand and look how some greedy sharks try to steal his clients posting stuff like: "I want clients like vasten", "I can make it for $35"... this thread has nothing to do with your spams, why don't you start your own thread :"I will do 100 TGPs for a hamburger" ? Respect yourself and then expect others to respect you... __________________ SEO Mogul \| ICQ: 163671223

11-17-2002, 10:08 AM	#27
deleteduser Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 2,218	what i dont understand is: why do you post this here? i mean, you wanna help him and bring his reputation back but all you show us that you have obivously no idea of design and you are happy about this rip-off work. sorry mate but this is just stupid. __________________ ICQ #58981463 Promote my PornAccess Site: 2Chicks1Dick

11-17-2002, 10:09 AM	#28
Gramma Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 402	I've used nzdesigns myself. I didn't know there WAS a bad reputation to be considered. What he's done for me has been good. He's been respectful and eager to please. He's worked for me several times, and I've always been happy with what I got from him. He's always reasonably priced, and gets the stuff down on time. He did an AVS site for me (maturelibrary.com)- plus banners, and he's doing some gallery templates for me now. I use more than one designer - depending on what I want done - Just as I don't use more than one processor, or one sponsor, or even one host. But I will use nz again when the need arises in the future. Other designers that I've used that I've heard about from this board ZayneE - this man is genius hungryman < in progress va2k - gallery templates Mark2000 - did the gramma image logo for grammacash & a new one for a nonadult site we're working on www.scariest.com Marty from AdultOne - my first professional designer that I would use MORE if he'd answer his damn mail This guy has the most unique way of looking at things and is really DAMN clever. __________________ gramma at ix.netcom.com

11-17-2002, 10:29 AM	#30
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	You dont rip people off here and then 'get better' hes a crook, be sure he didnt rip off your design from someone else. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

11-17-2002, 11:01 AM	#32
GotGauge Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: USA Posts: 3,072	Can you post some other examples? Ones he might of shown you, to get you to hire him as a designer? __________________ ICQ 22264474 [email protected]

11-17-2002, 11:50 AM	#34
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Am I think only one who sees a simliarity between these? http://orchiddesigns.com/freesites/n...ies/index.html http://www.sarahstgp.com ? __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

11-17-2002, 12:05 PM	#36
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	You gotta love a post trying to show he's no longer a cheating scumbag that only ends up proving he's one. Nicely done Fletch. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

11-17-2002, 12:54 PM	#37
NzDesignz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Korea Posts: 422	Thanks for the posts gramma, flashfreak and vasten, appreciate it. I will not get into a argument TeenGodFather but that is how I layout all my styles How the fuck else are you meant to lay them out. It is a nice clean html then and if my client wants to edit it they can. Just face it I am trying my best to make people happy, obviously I will never please some of you but that is ok. But thanks again Gramma, Flashfreak and Vastan __________________ ICQ: 93319989

11-17-2002, 01:04 PM	#41
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	nice.... now he's jacking Spycam's stuff.... lol __________________ SIG TOO BIG

11-17-2002, 01:51 PM	#45
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	could someone please compare "vasten" and "Nzdesignz" IP-adress -- smells to much of a marketing stunt