**KINK.com ** Lay off 12 Staff ** - GoFuckYourself.com

Domain Diva · 02-16-2009, 08:29 AM

Is this the start of what will be many job losses in the adult industry this year.

Founder Peter Acworth of Kink.com confirmed today that it has laid off 12 Staff (11%)

Hope it picks up again for them I really like Kink !

MrDeiz · 02-16-2009, 08:30 AM

bad news (((

hope this crisis will over soon

SimpleJack · 02-16-2009, 08:35 AM

Great Program! They will bounce back soon and hire 50!

02-16-2009, 08:40 AM

They were probably overstaffed. IT happens.

Fletch XXX · 02-16-2009, 08:44 AM

as long as the money comes who cares

Domain Diva · 02-16-2009, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vexes

They were probably overstaffed. IT happens.

I agree

just a minor blip ! maybe due to thier size.

What was really cool last year as part of cybernet expo was the chance to visit Kinks awesome headquarters ...talk about huge,you can get lost in there.

Peter was a great host and threw a really nice evening of events.

fatfoo · 02-16-2009, 09:51 AM

Job losses indeed...

Oracle Porn · 02-16-2009, 09:53 AM

GOOD FOR THEM!

czarina · 02-16-2009, 09:55 AM

that sucks. I hope it doesnt become an industry trend

U.R.A.M.F.S · 02-16-2009, 10:00 AM

you are dumb as a brick wall. the entire industry has been shaving the fat for the last 9 months. many programs have dumped over 40% of their staffs. where do you live? under a bridge?

1BB · 02-16-2009, 11:13 AM

bad news

notime · 02-16-2009, 11:26 AM

I hope John, Terry, pock-it and the guys I know there are not amongst them. I like them a lot.

HookUPcom · 02-16-2009, 11:30 AM

In my experience, usually you don't lay people off until long after you should... 12 at one time is scary. Good luck to 'em.

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tony286 · 02-16-2009, 11:33 AM

times are rough out there.

RyuLion · 02-16-2009, 11:33 AM

yeap, they probably didn't need them..

I've noticed that this week I've been getting sales again..

So far this month:
1:270

2008 midyear: 1:181

C-Luv · 02-16-2009, 11:34 AM

Oh, that sucks.

Sands · 02-16-2009, 11:35 AM

Hopefully they kept the mechanic who attends to the fucking machines. That guy is indispensable.

jakethedog · 02-16-2009, 11:38 AM

time to trim the fat so to speak .. just makes you healthier in the long run ..

Penthouse Tony · 02-16-2009, 11:39 AM

If anyone laid off is looking for work contact me, FriendFinder is hiring:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/j...y=friendfinder

NaughtyRob · 02-16-2009, 11:39 AM

Shit happens, even the big companies are hurting.

Andy CHOOPA · 02-16-2009, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime

I hope John, Terry, pock-it and the guys I know there are not amongst them. I like them a lot.

Agreed. Good guys.

tranza · 02-16-2009, 12:06 PM

This is affecting all countries, mainly here in Brazil, there's a lot of unemployed people, this is so sad...

BradM · 02-16-2009, 12:08 PM

They needed 12 staff? I thought they maybe employed 6 people tops.

If you need 100+ people to run that site, you suck as a company owner.

notime · 02-16-2009, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

They needed 12 staff? I thought they maybe employed 6 people tops.

If you need 100+ people to run that site, you suck as a company owner.

You would say different after you've visited their building and saw the operation and meet those guys in person.

RyuLion · 02-16-2009, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

They needed 12 staff? I thought they maybe employed 6 people tops.

If you need 100+ people to run that site, you suck as a company owner.

they prob. have 40..

Sly · 02-16-2009, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyuLion

they prob. have 40..

Based on the numbers that Claire posted they should have (or should have had) around 100?

baddog · 02-16-2009, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

They needed 12 staff? I thought they maybe employed 6 people tops.

If you need 100+ people to run that site, you suck as a company owner.

Obviously have no clue. Perhaps this will help: http://fubarwebmasters.com/galleries.php?id=776

notime · 02-16-2009, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Obviously have no clue. Perhaps this will help: http://fubarwebmasters.com/galleries.php?id=776

All true, been there too:
http://www.adultcontent.nl/vegas2009...sco/index.html
That place is HUGE and there's like 40 smart/great people working on every floor

fuzebox · 02-16-2009, 01:48 PM

CyberClaire: your new board name is very 90s.

BradM · 02-16-2009, 01:52 PM

I don't care how big their building is. They run a bondage company. You guys are missing the point. As small business owners you should 'get it'.

Congrats. They have a large brick building. Now can someone tell me why the fuck they need 100+ employees?

Sly · 02-16-2009, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

I don't care how big their building is. They run a bondage company. You guys are missing the point. As small business owners you should 'get it'.

Congrats. They have a large brick building. Now can someone tell me why the fuck they need 100+ employees?

Do you have some strange insight into their company where you know every one of their divisions and operations? There are many adult companies that have over 100 employees and your first thought is "wow, why so many?" And then you get talking and they tell you about everything that they really have going on and it isn't so shocking.

A lot of companies don't "just" run pay sites.

stever · 02-16-2009, 02:17 PM

bradm they shoot everything in house
someone has to clean the floors and walls after those scenes

RyuLion · 02-16-2009, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

CyberClaire: your new board name is very 90s.

BlackCrayon · 02-16-2009, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

I don't care how big their building is. They run a bondage company. You guys are missing the point. As small business owners you should 'get it'.

Congrats. They have a large brick building. Now can someone tell me why the fuck they need 100+ employees?

They paid like 14.5 mil for that big brick building.

mona · 02-16-2009, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stever

bradm they shoot everything in house
someone has to clean the floors and walls after those scenes

True -- Can't let that person go!

BradM · 02-16-2009, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

Do you have some strange insight into their company where you know every one of their divisions and operations? There are many adult companies that have over 100 employees and your first thought is "wow, why so many?" And then you get talking and they tell you about everything that they really have going on and it isn't so shocking.

A lot of companies don't "just" run pay sites.

Do you Sly?

They might distribute DVDs, sell oranges on the street corners in LA and build fucking rocket ships on the side. I've seen DVD operations with 2 guys in warehousing, 3 in marketing, 1 boss, 6 set guys and then contracted talent.

If this giant brick building has 100 employees, they have too many. Absolute bottom line.

I guess that's why they just fired 12. That's a start.

BradM · 02-16-2009, 02:36 PM

All I am saying is they probably have too many people on staff sitting around doing nothing. And my point is proven, they are firing people. So argue all you want, I don't care. You're wrong.

dyna mo · 02-16-2009, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

They have a large brick building. Now can someone tell me why the fuck they need 100+ employees?

to fill up the large brick building, man. come on!

TheDoc · 02-16-2009, 02:50 PM

If you want to see the problem of this Industry - just read this thread. What a joke, so much doom and gloom. No wonder most of you are broke and bitching.

We laid off like 10 people in 2002, just think.. then hired more, and laid off more. We built one product, hired people, canned them, canned the product. Shit must have been crazy bad, depression like... hell, it must have been the economy. Hahaha..

It's called 'doing business' and just because you downsize some staff, doesn't mean shit is going bad.

Hell lets add some happy light into this thread - Maybe the Company streamlined an operation to be taken care of by one illegal Mexican thus, they they fired people and saved millions to re-invest into the porn market and business.

Doom and gloom... if it isn't the eco kicking you in the balls it's piracy.. how about this shock of logic.. it's you!

Penthouse Tony · 02-16-2009, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

If you want to see the problem of this Industry - just read this thread. What a joke, so much doom and gloom. No wonder most of you are broke and bitching.

We laid off like 10 people in 2002, just think.. then hired more, and laid off more. We built one product, hired people, canned them, canned the product. Shit must have been crazy bad, depression like... hell, it must have been the economy. Hahaha..

It's called 'doing business' and just because you downsize some staff, doesn't mean shit is going bad.

Hell lets add some happy light into this thread - Maybe the Company streamlined an operation to be taken care of by one illegal Mexican thus, they they fired people and saved millions to re-invest into the porn market and business.

Doom and gloom... if it isn't the eco kicking you in the balls it's piracy.. how about this shock of logic.. it's you!

Great post

Just have to point out one thing, there is no such thing as an "illegal Mexican" in San Francisco.

dyna mo · 02-16-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

If you want to see the problem of this Industry - just read this thread. What a joke, so much doom and gloom. No wonder most of you are broke and bitching.

We laid off like 10 people in 2002, just think.. then hired more, and laid off more. We built one product, hired people, canned them, canned the product. Shit must have been crazy bad, depression like... hell, it must have been the economy. Hahaha..

It's called 'doing business' and just because you downsize some staff, doesn't mean shit is going bad.

Hell lets add some happy light into this thread - Maybe the Company streamlined an operation to be taken care of by one illegal Mexican thus, they they fired people and saved millions to re-invest into the porn market and business.

Doom and gloom... if it isn't the eco kicking you in the balls it's piracy.. how about this shock of logic.. it's you!

stupid post.

no one mentioned the economy or doom & gloom. every serious post was pretty much a *trim the fat* comment.

count of monte cristo · 02-16-2009, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

If you want to see the problem of this Industry - just read this thread. What a joke, so much doom and gloom. No wonder most of you are broke and bitching.

We laid off like 10 people in 2002, just think.. then hired more, and laid off more. We built one product, hired people, canned them, canned the product. Shit must have been crazy bad, depression like... hell, it must have been the economy. Hahaha..

It's called 'doing business' and just because you downsize some staff, doesn't mean shit is going bad.

Hell lets add some happy light into this thread - Maybe the Company streamlined an operation to be taken care of by one illegal Mexican thus, they they fired people and saved millions to re-invest into the porn market and business.

Doom and gloom... if it isn't the eco kicking you in the balls it's piracy.. how about this shock of logic.. it's you!

id remember to consider the context of this announcement. companies have been laying people off left and right recently and 12 people is a lot at one time.

but yea, it could be anything. but generally, this is a low point in this industry for paysite sales, and who knows whether it could recover or not, in the same state it was before

SilentKnight · 02-16-2009, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sands

Hopefully they kept the mechanic who attends to the fucking machines. That guy is indispensable.

TheDoc · 02-16-2009, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo

stupid post.

no one mentioned the economy or doom & gloom. every serious post was pretty much a *trim the fat* comment.

Read much? "bad news ((( - bad news - 2 at one time is scary - times are rough out there." Among other things..

So let's think.. Say the same repeat bullshit everyone else did or come up with something unique.. that is also true.

And this isn't the first thread either on the subject or related... but I will give you a break only being around these parts for 3 months.

DirtyDanza · 02-16-2009, 09:02 PM

what bad times you guys talking about... he's laying off im looking to hire....

if your sales are bad with them you need to promote someone who is not hurting like me....

im surprised... I think there is something behind it... ive seen kink numbers latley and they look great.... now the numbers I am surprised at is aff... holy shit they are low..... I bet kink does way more than aff does

JFK · 02-16-2009, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U.R.A.M.F.S

you are dumb as a brick wall. the entire industry has been shaving the fat for the last 9 months. many programs have dumped over 40% of their staffs. where do you live? under a bridge?

FYI...... quoted from another board......... by Morten, from Global Access

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I normally don't take things to the boards, sometimes deals can go wrong for whatever reason it might be, but it is a slap in the face seeing someone continuesly posting as if it is business as usual without giving any efforts into solving a 5 digit sum dispute.
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TiaLing · 02-16-2009, 10:41 PM

I love Kink .... work for them alot .... I'm sure they'll be fine .... great company! tia

Don Pueblo · 02-16-2009, 11:50 PM

so wait? claire took global access for a bunch of money for promotions stuff and they have attempted to get the money back because she didn't deliver and it's been unsuccessful, so now due and GA are forced to take legal actions? thats how it reads all over the other boards. due why don't you lay this broad out? she don't have any friends here. everyone knows since day one that she's a fake and that shawn idiot is worse.

tony286 · 02-16-2009, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

If you want to see the problem of this Industry - just read this thread. What a joke, so much doom and gloom. No wonder most of you are broke and bitching.

We laid off like 10 people in 2002, just think.. then hired more, and laid off more. We built one product, hired people, canned them, canned the product. Shit must have been crazy bad, depression like... hell, it must have been the economy. Hahaha..

It's called 'doing business' and just because you downsize some staff, doesn't mean shit is going bad.

Hell lets add some happy light into this thread - Maybe the Company streamlined an operation to be taken care of by one illegal Mexican thus, they they fired people and saved millions to re-invest into the porn market and business.

Doom and gloom... if it isn't the eco kicking you in the balls it's piracy.. how about this shock of logic.. it's you!

boy you must suck to work for. lol

ExLust · 02-17-2009, 12:30 AM

That sucks.

02-16-2009, 08:29 AM	#1
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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	I don't care how big their building is. They run a bondage company. You guys are missing the point. As small business owners you should 'get it'. Congrats. They have a large brick building. Now can someone tell me why the fuck they need 100+ employees?

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	All I am saying is they probably have too many people on staff sitting around doing nothing. And my point is proven, they are firing people. So argue all you want, I don't care. You're wrong.

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