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how many women that got physically attacked were successfully able to pull out their gun from their handbag and shoot the attacker?
(not even going into how womens handbags look like from the inside)Comment
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Any competent person with knowledge should train any female that shows an interest in the use of firearms, and the proper etiquette. e.g. never point gun at anyone, don't pull it unless you are going to use it, awareness of stray rounds or what is behind the target, 2 to center of mass 1 to head etc.
Nothing is quite like the empowerment that comes with a solid confident proficiency with weapons. Doesn't matter if it is a rock or a gun.Comment
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Dont give a gun to an angry men or womenComment
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i prefer the term "surprise sex", rape is such a dirty word....Comment
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Who could trust a woman with a gun anyway??
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If every driver license owner was a good driver, I'd feel better about gun owners...Comment
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I know a girl here in northern VA who has her conceal carry permit, one night after leaving a resturant with some friends some guys came up to them and tried to assault them. She pulled her gun out and they ran.
So safe to say it happens?Comment
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Great and for every story like that I can show you 100 where a gun in the home was either used by family member on another family member in an argument or was found by a child and accidentally discharged and killed that child or another child. Sorry I'm a numbers guy and I go by the numbers to do what is best. "Needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" and all.Comment
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100:1 huh? Seriously doubtful.
You never hear about how many times a gun saves a life.
http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/st176.pdfLast edited by Mr Pheer; 06-29-2009, 11:20 AM.Comment
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this is a much more complicated discussion. There are many pros and cons80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds
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She wouldn't have been raped if she wasn't dressed like a slut.Comment
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Here is one:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=38726
Ok... now show me your 100. When you are done, I will have another for you. Lets see how long we can keep this going, I've got nothing else to do all day.Comment
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LOL !!! Was funny when i saw that very point being made on the news a few months ago here. Womens groups were going crazy at the very suggestion of it. Truth is, when some sluts go out to a club with a skirt which doesn't even cover their ass, and tits hangin out, what message are they actually sending out ?
Nobody deserves to be raped and i'm not excusing it, but that certainly doesn't help...
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Interesting read, for sure.
But I´m afraid I can´t really understand why it´s such a big topic in the US. OK, I´m not familiar with carrying guns in public, maybe that´s the reason. And I have to admit if I had a gun and would be a victim, I´d use it to protect my family and my property.
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Dumb american fags are at it again. If an attacker knows there is a very good chance a victim could have a gun, he's just gonna straight kill her when she least expects it, so as not to risk being shot at himself. If there is a good chance a victim doesn't have a gun, more often than not he's gonna get what he wants and dart off. That seems like way too much logic for american fags to comprehend, though.Comment
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NRA Type Theory 1: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, could somehow have ended up any different had she a pistol in her purse.
NRA Type Theory 2: The theory that NRA supporters with assault rifles and concealed pistols would ever be bright enough to be organized enough to overthrow their own government if ever a time came that called for it.
NRA Type Theory 3: The theory that 2nd amendmment zealots would ever be able to recognize a government in need of overthrowing. (post 911 Bush admistration)
A lot of NRA types like to prey on peoples fears to bolster support for their 20th century cause.
Guns can be fun as fuck to play with, but Im sure a lot of detrimental to society shit is fun too; blowing up shit with bombs, burning down shit with flamethrowers etc. Just like I know lots of positive shit is just as and more fun to do than shooting guns and playing make believe.
In my old city, 50 pistols stolen from a sporting goods store. 8 have so far turned up all across Canada, in criminals hands that would otherwise never have the means to have them. They wouldnt have them if they were fully banned there.
Then there are the types who smuggle them across the border from the US for a high mark up. If the US banned them our criminals would have hardly any here to access, save for a few antiques.
Mexican and Canadian violence committed with American firearms. As is the story around much of the world.
I prefer my criminals and regular citizens armed with knives and clubs. Less chance I'm going to catch a bullet from some argument a block away.Comment
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Well - lets have some more facts...
In 2005 - there were nearly 31,000 deaths from firearms in the US.
- 55% were SUICIDE (or 17,050)
- 40% were homicide (or 12,400)
- 3% were accidental (or 930)
- 2% were justifiable (or 620)
In the same year, there were 2,447,900 deaths in the US.
You can argue that taking away firearms entirely would drastically reduce those numbers - as the availability would limit their occurrence, and you would be right.
The other side could also argue that putting more guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens would also reduce the crime rates - as the availability would act as a deterrent.
But the fact is, in the US, gun ownership is a constitutional right. Until the people see fit the modify that constitution - any argument will end in non-action.
For me, I was taught about and used firearms at an early age, and have therefor always been comfortable around weapons. My children are now at the ages (11,15) where I am going to teach and introduce to them. For their safety, I did chose NOT to keep firearms in my house while they were little. Now that they are the ages they are, its time they learn.
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There's nothing that matches the sound of a 12-guage being cocked.. followed by.. I have a shotgun and know how to use it! My mother in law did that very thing 20 years ago...
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Not sure where you get that thought process... but I would think a thief would choose the 'path of least resistance', right? Why would an attacker choose a victim who is known to own a gun in the first place when they can go next door to the neighbor who doesn't?
The same way homes with Alarm systems and large Dog's deter criminals, a know gun owner would have to have the same effect... at least that's what logic would tell me. And logic tends to know some stuff.
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Your logic is also backed up by data from Florida when they enacted the concealed weapons program. Crime rate dropped.Not sure where you get that thought process... but I would think a thief would choose the 'path of least resistance', right? Why would an attacker choose a victim who is known to own a gun in the first place when they can go next door to the neighbor who doesn't?
The same way homes with Alarm systems and large Dog's deter criminals, a know gun owner would have to have the same effect... at least that's what logic would tell me. And logic tends to know some stuff.
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I would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6...Guns don't kill people do...
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i am so tired of you pansy ass anti-gun faggots. i'd shoot everyone of i i jus...........Comment
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I'm still waiting for GatorB to post his 100 stories. I have a feeling its all bullshit.Comment
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there is no "next door", the person next door is just as likely to have a gun as well... so the situation is: attacker knows that victim is likely to have a gun, what's his best strategy? Obviously there are only 2 reasonable strategies:Not sure where you get that thought process... but I would think a thief would choose the 'path of least resistance', right? Why would an attacker choose a victim who is known to own a gun in the first place when they can go next door to the neighbor who doesn't?
The same way homes with Alarm systems and large Dog's deter criminals, a know gun owner would have to have the same effect... at least that's what logic would tell me. And logic tends to know some stuff.
a. wuss out
b. worry about his own survival, go for an easy kill
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c. risk getting shot
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i knew we needed a new gun thread
cigarettes and drunk drivers kill more people anyways,
so wtfComment
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I'm all for the right to own guns... but I'm curious, how does said attacker "know" a victim owns a gun? I know tons of people with guns... none of them have signs on their door saying "I am a redneck mother fucker, back off!"Not sure where you get that thought process... but I would think a thief would choose the 'path of least resistance', right? Why would an attacker choose a victim who is known to own a gun in the first place when they can go next door to the neighbor who doesn't?
The same way homes with Alarm systems and large Dog's deter criminals, a know gun owner would have to have the same effect... at least that's what logic would tell me. And logic tends to know some stuff.
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You have no fucking clue. My brother's a public defender, and we have talks like this all the time about how he justifies his client's behavior, etc. But the truth of the matter is this; There is NO justifying the mind of a criminal. There is NO rhyme to the reason. There often isn't even a motive. Just dumb people doing stupid things.
Do you really think someone doing something as crazy as killing someone or raping them is really thinking analytically about whether they should maybe figure out if the victim has a gun or not? Do you REALLY think there's much going on in that head?
Most criminals don't think about ANYTHING before they do something.
He said "the first mistake you make when you're an attorney is trying to make sense of what these people do, or have done. There is no rationale behind it."Comment
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You got that right. Its just like in car accidents, you hardly ever hear them say, "Everyone was killed and were wearing their seatbelts"
However you always hear, "Everyone was killed and noone was wearing their seat belts"
They only tell what draws in the ratings. Wrongful death draws more crowds than accidently or natural.
I have my CCDW license and keep a gun on me nowdays. With the way these cowards are now days you can't fight your way out. Bringing fist to a gun fight just doesn't work. So I keep atleast one gun on me at all times now. (Hope I don't ever have to use it though)Comment
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The Iranian people have no access to guns. Look whats happening to them. all the drooling retards who think guns should be banned should go move there. Freedom is a privilege you do not deserve to have.Comment
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I think people should have the right to own guns but I think they also give a false sense of security. First the amount of training needed to be able to get up from a dead sleep to be ready to have a gunfight or the woman getting attacked to be able to react without thinking. Anthony knows this with the martial arts, the reason why one trains constantly is so one doesn't have to think when the moment comes.
Also this rising up against the government, that worked when it was muskets against muskets its a different world. Also having a gun and actually being able to blow someone away are two very different things. its not like a charles bronson movie.Comment
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Cheers Tony, it's all in the training. I've been lax in my firearms training due to aspirations of fighting again, I hope to remedy that soon. I have the equivalent training of any federal law enforcement agent with handguns. Everyone should have the right to carry, but I've seen way too many idiots who don't know the first thing of using it in a combat situation. This is my favorite quote when it comes to fighting.
"In a fight, we never rise to our expectations but rather we fall to the level of our training."
Something to think about.
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