The best advice you'll ever recieve on this board..

[Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE]

that won't get you anywhere.

my lips to your ears.

when i stopped crusading i immediately started to make more money.

everyone should mind their own business and just make money now.

let the courts sort it out.

It came from AlienQ's thread about Shap and Twistys advertising on illegal tube sites.

Adapt or die, that's what it's about now, and Shap adapted as he doesn't want to die. If you keep running your mouth trying to take down the illegal tube sites instead of worrying about how you could profit from it also, then you will die.

Thanks for the advice Airek!

[polish_aristocrat]

it's a dog eat dog world now.... more than ever...

[pornguy]

So Airek was putting his lips on a guys ears! Where are the photos and videos.

And he is right.

[V_RocKs]

Or you adapt and legislation gets passed meant to protect the movie industry and it also applies to us and you:

1) Go to jail.
2) Get sued to the point of bankruptcy.

[tranza]

It's someting to think about...

[Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Or you adapt and legislation gets passed meant to protect the movie industry and it also applies to us and you:

1) Go to jail.
2) Get sued to the point of bankruptcy.

How does that apply here? Unless you make an illegal tube site, you cannot be sued or go to jail for profiting from an illegal tube. You think they are gonna lock Shap up for advertising on it?

[BradM]

I spent thousands advertising on illegal tubes every month and it makes me tons of money. Money you fucking faggots won't make me. So I don't give a shit.

[Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I spent thousands advertising on illegal tubes every month and it makes me tons of money. Money you fucking faggots won't make me. So I don't give a shit.

[Brujah]

What do you expect them to say? Those running illegal tubes or supporting illegal tubes are going to say "mind your own business." They want you to be quiet. They don't want you to bring attention to it.

You don't have to crusade against it, but you certainly don't have to agree with it or stop posting about it.

[2012]

[HorseShit]

gee that doesn't look fake

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

So Airek was putting his lips on a guys ears! Where are the photos and videos

In juicy's secret vault. the ears are just the beginning

[BradM]

I know you get it, but to reinforce something - the reason people like me and shap are going to tubes is because it's impossible to get any affiliates who are worth a shit these days. They either want insane PPS, have stupid requests or are 95% of affiliates that signup and don't do shit. Or they are a program who promises you the world and doesn't provide their end of the bargain after you send them sales. (so common these days)

So from my perspective I am happy to support these companies because they support me. They convert for me, and they make money. So it's a great relationship. If people on GFY acted like they did from a money changing hands position, I'd be happy to spend the money and support affiliates here. But 1) no one here has traffic and 2) they are all full of shit, and a bunch of tools.

So I will go where the money is. Our industry is full of morons who just plain "don't get it."

[Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I know you get it, but to reinforce something - the reason people like me and shap are going to tubes is because it's impossible to get any affiliates who are worth a shit these days. They either want insane PPS, have stupid requests or are 95% of affiliates that signup and don't do shit. Or they are a program who promises you the world and doesn't provide their end of the bargain after you send them sales. (so common these days)

So from my perspective I am happy to support these companies because they support me. They convert for me, and they make money. So it's a great relationship. If people on GFY acted like they did from a money changing hands position, I'd be happy to spend the money and support affiliates here. But 1) no one here has traffic and 2) they are all full of shit, and a bunch of tools.

So I will go where the money is. Our industry is full of morons who just plain "don't get it."

Amen, but in GFY's defense, there are quite a few here who do have traffic, they just are modest and don't throw around who they are or anything like that. Shit the other day I saw a post by someone that looked strikingly familiar and I looked into it, he happened to be someone who does 200k+ daily on a NON-TGP/MGP site. It's just all the talkers are bullshit and don't have anything but their whiny excuses.

[BradM]

Amen, but in GFY's defense, there are quite a few here who do have traffic, they just are modest and don't throw around who they are or anything like that. Shit the other day I saw a post by someone that looked strikingly familiar and I looked into it, he happened to be someone who does 200k+ daily on a NON-TGP/MGP site. It's just all the talkers are bullshit and don't have anything but their whiny excuses.

Sure. 1% of people on this board make money. I'd love to support that 1%, but you can't. They don't have easy advertising options. They aren't open to cross sells etc. What I am saying is even the elite top dogs aren't adapting to dynamic media and I am a SMALLLLLL leak these guys are losing. SMALLLLLLL. Imagine what AFF spends on tubes daily. I know they have to spend 50x what I do. This is money lost to even those massive guys who know what they are doing.