Big tube sites send sales to paysites without even having a link to them :2 cents:

The people with ad spots on big tubes are doing very well and wouldn't be renewing every month if they weren't.

you know this how?

people should look at reality as it is - not through your desires and fears.

tubes - not making a point on whether i like them or not - have been around for awhile, aren't going anywhere and the ads are renewed month after month. take from that what you will.

and as far as the free porn argument - should not everyone shop at wal-mart and take the bus because it is cheapest?

in text your sig said 1989 - 2009 are you marty mcfly?

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sorry man, but you are way off on this. if your tube site is not making money, its probably because its not set up to convert surfers to customers. just loading up 2 or 15 minute long videos doesnt mean you are going to make money. take what you have learned in the past 5+ years from TGPs to MGPs to Blogs and use the same strategy to make money

Another reason for Ads being renewed may not be because of sales but because of fear if their presence isn't there in front of all that traffic.

I know he's right, because I know people who run large tube sites, I know people who buy ads on tube sites, and I know people who use watermarked clips to generate traffic from tube sites... And all of them make money.

People said the same about tgps and mgps. :)

waiting for some hypothetical future where the tubes may not exist does not help one to make money now.

Because youve seen his bank balance? Thought not :2 cents:

Apparently there a quite a few people here that are forgetting to run this thread through the BSinator... then filtering the results through the Experiencematron...

who are you referring to?

:1orglaugh I'm pretty sure he meant to say $3000 though instead of 3000k :P

Well... I would love to answer that but everyone on Team Homegrown always gets nervous when I start doing things like that so please understand if I don't get specific. Hopefully those that might be influenced to make a business decision based on the information in this thread will run their own tests and dial in the successes or failures of any traffic source on the detriments or merits of their own content, products, services, etc.

imo, everyone needs to keep in mind that for everyone ready to give honest helpful advice there is someone else trying to keep others down by misdirection and subterfuge.

Nice tube, did you get permission from Don Cornelius to do the Soul Train video as your feature vid with the song playing for each visitor? And I could see a man's back sliced in half but I have to register to see a titty fuck vid?

TGP/MGP sites pushing my FHG
Review Sites
Blogs

All I know about tubes is that a few of the big ones were begging people to buy them. RedTube made it very clear that they wanted to be sold and fast.

you make money from the paysite sponsors or your cam & dating sites

what's your site? let me see

Do you people read? He is saying they don't covert for his paysite. If you are pushing dating or cams on tubes, that is a different story. He is not talking about that.

Thank You

this is correct

I show very very few affiliate sales coming from tubes.

Sorry to bring the bad news but this business model sucks.

I will continue to supply hosted flvs but I can tell you that it is not a great way to make money based on my sales reports and who is making sales for me and from where.

This is fact.

while nobody bought them. Some of them simply copied web 2.0 model - to grow as fast and as much as possible and then to exit via sell.
the real monetization of traffic would be on purchaser - at least thats what I read here in interview with some big boss (playboy entertaiment?), who got proposal from owners of xtube or "sometube" like this - they asked for 20 milions, while still operating in loss :1orglaugh

and did someone actually bought RedTube? i guess noone.

Wow, it only took two pages to clear up that he was saying tube sites don't generate income for a paysite, not the tube site itself. Even though it was stated clearly in the first post.

thank you, yes this is what i said in post 1 :thumbsup

uh, read the thread title, it's general therefore we can give more general responses

the reason is they get free content from sponsor P (paysites) in order to make money from Sponsors C & D (camsites & dating sites)

So if someone starts a thread titled "I'm dying here" and talks about financial problems you would tell them to call a paramedic. :winkwink:

lol dude, the title is just to give you a general idea what the post is about

you have to read and comprehend the post :2 cents:

Hey BV,

Our tube converts very well with some content however we have never done well with anything soft or solo. The hardcore clips is what our surfers like and maybe thats affecting the way your stats look from tubes

Another tid bit of information to put things in perspective.

Yesterday (Friday Feb 6, 2009) my pay sites almost reached 1000.00 in membership sales.

Not one of these sales was from a Tube Site affiliate.

And I am on a ton of tubes.

This is a fact.

What tube site are you referring too?

How long are the clips you offer to affiliates for tube use?

lubetube.com

i would stop offering the hosted flv's for tubes. the long term cost of over saturating your program is too big.

The more tube sites we get, the more it will spread to the paysites.
Micro-niches still have a future. The webmasters are busily shovelling their own graves. But that's fine. Finally they found something to screw themselves, and not their customers. :1orglaugh

anywhere from 30 seconds to 3 minutes, i think most are in the 1:30 to 2 minute range

A look at his site should suffice every normal thinking person. :2 cents:

The thing is, it's not just the paysites. They will get hurt first as is the case now. But eventually the big tubes will expose everyone to the various cams and dating sponsors leaving very little for the rest of you who think you are safe pushing those sites. Just give it time.

yeah, good luck making any money with those videos

i make great money with them on the FHG's, and blogs :2 cents: