yes, but couldn't you work with a biller on the fact that the micropayments would be billed to already paying customers(based on my scenarios above)...therefore having a WAY lower chargeback ratio(my guess it would be almost non exisitent since the only people signing up for these micropayments are already paying customers)
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10 years ago I worked every waking second, barely any other sites or webmasters to compete with and I made over 1000 a day.
now I work from 8-40 hours a week and I feel like a grain of sand in our solar system.. yet I still make 30% of what I did 10 years ago.
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I understand what yer sayin, and you are way more experienced than I...but isn't it a fact that once a customer has already payed and a member they are WAY less likely to charge back? and also the fact that they would be way less likely to chargeback a small charge? ..again all this is based on the scenarios from my previous post where members pay a small membership fee and then can "upgrade" features on their account(like getting upgrades quicker) or get items(like clothes from the shoot)...also based on my previous post, if you implemented a token type system, the end user could purchase $10,$20,$50 dollars worth of tokens and then spend them at their leisure...creating a faux micropayment system where they buy $20 worth of tokens, but it's not spent until they use them.
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This thread is full of FAIL and xxxjay is a moron.
- One of the poll options is 200%How far off are your sales from 1 year ago?
Hey moron, if you sales are 100% off, that means you are making 0 sales.
If your sales are 200% off, that means you actually OWE a shitload of sales to the sponsor.
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The companines that will flourish are the ones at a time like this that can really differentiate themselves from their competators..there's so much cookie cutter crap and people aren't happy with that anymore.. because of the economic situation, they are more discriminating, and the industry's years of providing them with crap are coming back to bite them in the ass.That's part of it, sure, but alot of these sites I'm talking about still have the same amount of visitors, but those same visitors are not buying as much as they used to. It's not as though all of these surfers have moved on to other mediums and I'm still trying to use the old medium to attract them.
So while all of the stuff you mentioned is important, and is the future, it doesn't change the fact that the economic downturn has put a big dent in people's discretionary income, and that more than anything is what's hurting our sales right now.
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Originally posted by xxxjay
Jesus christ, and i thought i was the only one !
Here too mate. 11 years online. I miss the Xpics days. NO CONVERTION and like what, 18 cents/click if i recall (can you imagine)
Of course you'll see "I make more money" at the top of the survey.
80% of the webmasters in here have been working in porn for less than 3 years, no wonder !
If you were making 300$/month and now you make 500$ WOW dude, congrats
The bills of running such a biz are getting bigger and bigger.
100's of domains, softwares, servers, vps, bandwidth etc...Comment
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Very true.Jesus christ, and i thought i was the only one !
Here too mate. 11 years online. I miss the Xpics days. NO CONVERTION and like what, 18 cents/click if i recall (can you imagine)
Of course you'll see "I make more money" at the top of the survey.
80% of the webmasters in here have been working in porn for less than 3 years, no wonder !
If you were making 300$/month and now you make 500$ WOW dude, congrats
The bills of running such a biz are getting bigger and bigger.
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so far february doesn't look too good...
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Business is so bad. You all should get out of the business."Gonna scare you up and shoot you
Cause Mister Charlie told me so"
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Like I said in my earlier post... second week of the month is blowing ass. First week of the month we were about 10-15% UP.... This second week (which I like to call the, "Oh shit, I got my cc statement," week) is about 25% off...
Hopefully they forget about their cc's and what they owe by next week...
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here you go shap and DF re read what I postedComment
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here you go shap you should read everything I posted not just one line when I was talking in generalactually Im kicking ass with my get rich in porn systems,but my paysites have dropped alot except for InkandPink.com and agedandseasoned.
so what type of traffic converts for you now? Ill put some money to see how your doing no prob. I have a shit load of SE traffic its all i buy anymore google,yahoo shit all of them,I
spend about 30K a month on SE.
dont get me wrong I love your stuff but just the other day jerked of to a couple of your girls free on pornhub no lie. Ihave moneyand wont pay wonder how the surfers feelComment
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My sales are over 50% down.I'm just a newbie.Comment
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I'm in the bizz for 14 years, The BOOMING time, you did put up one nipple and people bought it. Making huge money had days with 6000 US sign-ups. In 2003 I sold all my sites just on the HYPE of Internet is the new world, made good money out of that. But I saw already a huge dropdown. I only can wondering that at the moment it must be fucking hard to maintaine your sites.
I did go in the producing sector, sales are way down since last year, so again I sold my studio to an other company. Just getting out of the shit on the right moment.
Now I take only orders from old clients, who are paying for sure, had some serious probems with some guys ordering and not paying.
I also see that webmasters dont care at the moment about the quality of the content, they are looking for LOW prices, I deny to shoot stuff like that, there I put my soul in my work and not just ah fuck it just an other scene.
2009 will be hard, lots of huge companies are closing down.John Bols Productions
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doing a stats run right now, be back to you in a secboom chicka wah wahComment
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my sales are down 25% from last year at this exact same timeboom chicka wah wahComment
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I will honestly say that sales have definitely been hurting as of the past 8 months.
To those who say "things are only getting better" must have started from meager beginnings in the first place, where as you only had room to improve.
The usual traffic sources are becoming less and less productive on a daily basis, be it a culmination of the tubes/economy/cross sales, I'm not sure.. all I know is people who say there has been zero affect are full of shit. The economy alone has touched everyone in one way or another.
I use to be able to double my ROI with ease, now I'm lucky to get 15-20%.
There are only two different options as I see it, either:
A) lie to your traffic and rip them off
B) be completely honest in your marketing approach and gain their trust
But perhaps that's just me
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Wrong. No offense to you mang. But not everyone is competing in the same markets or niches, and some are more hands on, and using clip stores, on top of VOD, membership, DVD, and custom requests.
Yes. Some of the mainstream porn markets are dying out. Some of those old business models are dying out. But not everyone is feeling the pain, or to the same degree. It has nothing to do with lying or not. Bullshit or not.
We are not all playing on the same field.
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I am 200 percent up on Beautifulfeetonline.com and Digitaldivas is about the same, perhaps 10 percent lower.
I have not really been active with digitaldivas, still indexing and joining affiliate programs. DDO is still under construction, btw, about 60 percent complete. Not really putting my heart and soul into promoting yet.
Beautifulfeetonline.com, I have been promoting like mad since Jan 1st, my alexa has gone from 788,552 to 523,556 and still dropping. I am also dropping my 29.95 per month full access to 10.00 per month access for the rest of this month. I did this last year as well and almost crashed my server, and quadrupled my signups, as well. The rest of the month will be fantastic for me. But I am niche and microniche, and not alot of my competition shoots in HDV, nor are they also lifestyle foot fetishists...Last edited by digitaldivas; 02-12-2009, 06:53 PM....Comment
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I know that foot fetich is hot, but men I have to puke when I see a dirty feet.
Thats one of the first things I look at a women if the feets are not correct I dump her in a heart beat.John Bols Productions
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Lol, me too! Not to talk, but barefootsies can agree. Serious Footies look at touching womens feet like touching the lines of a ferrari. Some bigger companies that push foot fetish thinks that any foot will do. Not so, Perverts, especially foot fetishists know if the site owner has passion or is of the same discipline or not in the first 10 seconds they hit the main page.Last edited by digitaldivas; 02-12-2009, 07:03 PM....Comment
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Agree 110%.
I can't speak for ALL fetishes. But I know for my markets, tickling and feet, that the members/patrons/customers/fans can tell almost instantly if you actually really have the fetish or not.
A lot of the new foot sites I see coming out now may get a few sales. But I still see many who are going to fail or have a difficult time. Regardless of the super high quality photography.
In fetish, it's about the action more than fancy presentation. Digitaldivas is the two-fer. You get high res and true foot lover.Comment
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...Live it, Love it! Thanks BF, I agree, I would say that with such things as bdsm, forced submission, etc, etc. People who play, know... Maybe that is what separates some ass sites with others, or boob sites, etc....Comment
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As I have said in other threads on this same subject. My ratios (sig) remain consistent. HOW I make my money has changed to get to my end of month number.
For example, I used to make more money on DVD and memberships then clip sales. Now it can be some months more clip sales then the other. So clips make up the money I lose in recurring membership. Same customers. Just opting to pay more with buying individual clips. Or I will have a month where members want to buy custom content. So they pay for tailored material to the script they submit.
The traffic, and HOW I make my money is different. The end result, or ball park, is the same month to month more a less. I typically look at the year's and compare, not 7 months. So I would have to look.
However, the point is, over all. My 'sales' or company 'profits' as defined in this thread continue to go up, to remain stable despite the economy. If you have never competed in a niche market with exclusive, original content, I can understand your disbelief. But I stand by what I've posted in this, and other threads on the subject.
Niche is not the same rules as mainstream porn. There is not as much of it, nor tons available on tubes. So the patrons have to PAY FOR IT. Plus, smaller niche players are more dedicated to protecting, and policing our content.Last edited by Barefootsies; 02-12-2009, 08:23 PM.Comment
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33% claiming they are making more money?
I call bullshit on these stats.
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Exactly, and if you made tens of thousands per month as an affiliate and now are only make thousands, you've been in it longer and it sucks to see things go in reverse.Comment
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I just ran my StatsRemote from the month on Jan 08 and compared them to Jan 09. I am up 25% from last year for the month on Jan. My traffic is also up to 35% from last year for the month of Jan.
Seriously, I am putting more time and afford into my blogs then ever before. I sit in front of the computer for 8 to 10 hour stretches. I remember back in 2000 - 2003 I could take off a whole summer, skip a few weeks, and still make a killing. Those days are so fucking over.ISeekGirls.com since 2005Comment
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february was bad, probably worst I've ever seen
march will be better.. simply because its hard t imagine worse
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