Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15445026)

Blame the public school system I guess. They should probably read their enlistment papers before signing.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 15449283)

More Marines die in the US on motorcycles on a yearly basis than died in Iraq. Go figure.

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 15449492)

You miss my point. First, I was talking about the US military. I'm not Canadian, so I can't comment on your country or your service. Why, because your service has ZERO to do with my life, politics, or country

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 15449492)

The vast majority of the people who join the military primary goal is to capitalize from the benefits provided to advance their life/carrier outside the military.

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 15449492)

Now fast forward to the present. Americans have the worst dept in history. That?s human history. And we owe a the most dept ever recorded in history to a country that is?..wait for it?..communists.

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 15447120)

"I don't like words that hide the truth. I don't like words that conceal reality. I don't like euphemisms, or euphemistic language. And American English is loaded with euphemisms. Cause Americans have a lot of trouble dealing with reality. Americans have trouble facing the truth, so they invent the kind of a soft language to protect themselves from it, and it gets worse with every generation. For some reason, it just keeps getting worse. I'll give you an example of that.

There's a condition in combat. Most people know about it. It's when a fighting person's nervous system has been stressed to it's absolute peak and maximum. Can't take anymore input. The nervous system has either (click) snapped or is about to snap.

In the first world war, that condition was called shell shock. Simple, honest, direct language. Two syllables, shell shock. Almost sounds like the guns themselves.

That was seventy years ago. Then a whole generation went by and the second world war came along and very same combat condition was called battle fatigue. Four syllables now. Takes a little longer to say. Doesn't seem to hurt as much. Fatigue is a nicer word than shock. Shell shock! Battle fatigue.

Then we had the war in Korea, 1950. Madison avenue was riding high by that time, and the very same combat condition was called operational exhaustion. Hey, we're up to eight syllables now! And the humanity has been squeezed completely out of the phrase. It's totally sterile now. Operational exhaustion. Sounds like something that might happen to your car.

Then of course, came the war in Viet Nam, which has only been over for about sixteen or seventeen years, and thanks to the lies and deceits surrounding that war, I guess it's no surprise that the very same condition was called post-traumatic stress disorder. Still eight syllables, but we've added a hyphen! And the pain is completely buried under jargon. Post-traumatic stress disorder.

I'll bet you if we'd have still been calling it shell shock, some of those Viet Nam veterans might have gotten the attention they needed at the time. I'll betcha. I'll betcha." - George Carlin

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 15449663)

Source? Just walk into any military recruiters office. Seriously.

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15449703)

I saw a report where X amount of prostitutes were studied. ALL OF THEM suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder, the same as soldiers who have seen war. Nasty stuff. :Oh crap

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15449366)

"This is terrifying," an Army official said. "We do not know what is going on."

BULLSHIT!!!

My friend owns a hotel in Thailand that caters to military, special forces and mercs. Any given day you can find a few of them there on break from either Afganistan or Iraq or mercs from Africa. The stories they tell do NOT match what the media says in any way. They all tell stories about straight up murdering women, children and wiping out entire villages full of civilians just so they can own a poppy field in Afganistan so some pharmaceutical company can harvest the poppies. They talk about killing entire towns they believe are hiding "insurgents" when it turns out that they were not. Everyone one of them has the same horrible stories. It's Vietnam all over again only this time you're never going to hear about all the evil we are doing.

And they wonder why these guys kill themselves? Because they are turned into mass murders and can't live with the guilt.