High End Pure CSS Designs **FOR SALE / AUCTION** - GoFuckYourself.com

potter · 08-07-2008, 08:45 PM

Alright, I'm closing down a few personal websites. However, the sites have some wicked ass designs on them. So instead of letting the designs sit on my HD to waste I'm going to sell them.

Each design is coded into a Pure CSS layout (view source, I write it very clean). In which both the CSS and HTML validate in w3c (check for yourself). Provided with each sale, will be a zipped file containing the images, and html file(s). Each design will be edited by myself to provide any title, logo, or url images to match your own website name and url. Each design will be sold exclusively to one website and one person (no reselling). If you ever want to move the design to a different website or url, I must be informed. An outgoing link which is pre-inserted into each design linking to my design website suburban pixel must remain unedited with each design.

I'm starting each design for sale at $300. Please make all bids here, as if more than one person wants a particular design you may bid on the design in $50 increments.

Tile Design (mainstream)
doctype: xhtml 1.0 Strict

-- view design --

Urban Design (mainstream)
doctype: html 4.01 Transitional

-- view design --

Blue Design (adult / blog)
doctype: html 4.01 Transitional

-- view design --

Any questions, just ask and I'll answer them as best I can.

Iron Fist · 08-07-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by potter

...If you ever want to move the design to a different website or url, I must be informed. An outgoing link which is pre-inserted into each design linking to my design website suburban pixel must remain unedited with each design.

What are you a designer or big brother? Yikes.

potter · 08-07-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

What are you a designer or big brother? Yikes.

big brother.. im spying on you RIGHT NOW!! LOOK OUT YOUR WINDOW!!

Same as if you purchase any script license. If you plan on moving the script to a different site or domain you have to go to their website and change the domain/website it's licensed too. So they can easily know if they're service/product is being misused. I could care less if anyone decides to switch sites or domains down the line. I would just like to know. Is that so much to ask?

Besides...

They're $300. That's pennies.

Sawblade2dahead · 08-07-2008, 09:19 PM

Hi-end... lay off the pipe brotha

potter · 08-07-2008, 09:24 PM

lol. i <3 gfy haters

potter · 08-07-2008, 10:11 PM

one bump before i go to bed.

The Truth Hurts · 08-07-2008, 10:25 PM

you can go on and on about pure css high end designs and have all kinds of silly requirements to buy your work... that's your right..

but if you can't even spot the typo in a one word graphic...

what good are ya?

Iron Fist · 08-08-2008, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by potter

I would just like to know. Is that so much to ask?

Yeah it is, because what i've learned by being here for 5 years... is that some "companies" with that kind of attitude on scripts aren't around anymore... and therefore my bought script or design wont load properly, because that link back is non existent...

Good luck but I wouldn't touch your stuff with a ten foot pole with that kind of requirement... what I do with a design I bought is up to me... I don't need to ask anyone for permission to modify it should I see fit.

Just my

klaze · 08-08-2008, 01:08 AM

Yah... a little bit of decent photoshop work...

but those designs are horrible. and $300 yer crazy. heh.

fallenmuffin · 08-08-2008, 01:33 AM

Linkbacks should make them free. $300 and a linkback plus notifying you anytime its moved. Oy Vey.

Ecchi22 · 08-08-2008, 01:37 AM

I don't like to disappoint you or something and I respect all designers as I respect myself, but those are kinda overpriced..

IMHO you should feel lucky if you can sell them for $300

webboy21 · 08-08-2008, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Yeah it is, because what i've learned by being here for 5 years... is that some "companies" with that kind of attitude on scripts aren't around anymore... and therefore my bought script or design wont load properly, because that link back is non existent...

Good luck but I wouldn't touch your stuff with a ten foot pole with that kind of requirement... what I do with a design I bought is up to me... I don't need to ask anyone for permission to modify it should I see fit.

Just my

Actually....there is such a thing as copyright. If it's not transfered to you in writing you are actually not allowed to modify the design...atleast that's the law where I live. I am of course not sure how it is where you're at.

my

mrwilson · 08-08-2008, 04:09 AM

Nice design man, but you can honestly expect some one to pay that much and stil leave a link back to your site?

Good luck with the sale i guess ;)

fris · 08-08-2008, 05:07 AM

potter has done work for me in the past, he does really nice work, fuck the haters, potter is on my list of designers of who to work with.

i would consider buying the last one (blue) if it was centered

StuartD · 08-08-2008, 05:11 AM

I like those designs quite a bit.... they're very clean, and simple yet not simple at all.
And the source code is very clean. Especially the last one where the images are kept to the end of the code.

Good work on them!

potter · 08-08-2008, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Yeah it is, because what i've learned by being here for 5 years... is that some "companies" with that kind of attitude on scripts aren't around anymore... and therefore my bought script or design wont load properly, because that link back is non existent...

Good luck but I wouldn't touch your stuff with a ten foot pole with that kind of requirement... what I do with a design I bought is up to me... I don't need to ask anyone for permission to modify it should I see fit.

Just my

lol Maybe you should stick around longer then, you still have a lot to learn.

Just my

potter · 08-08-2008, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by klaze

Yah... a little bit of decent photoshop work...

but those designs are horrible. and $300 yer crazy. heh.

Too funny.

Oracle Porn · 08-08-2008, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by fris

potter has done work for me in the past, he does really nice work, fuck the haters, potter is on my list of designers of who to work with.

i would consider buying the last one (blue) if it was centered

maybe he is a good designer and does nice work...but $300 + linkback + informing him is redicilous and i think most people agree.... $300 for such work is not cheap...

potter · 08-08-2008, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

Linkbacks should make them free. $300 and a linkback plus notifying you anytime its moved. Oy Vey.

Ok, I figured it was just because this was an adult forum. And adult design simply varies so much from mainstream. BUT I clicked on the banner showing right now (no refreshing or anything) http://affiliates.meatcash.com/?nats...IwOjIz,0,0,0,0

There is a link back to the designer on that one. You think they paid less than $300 for that because of the link back?

potter · 08-08-2008, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by fris

potter has done work for me in the past, he does really nice work, fuck the haters, potter is on my list of designers of who to work with.

i would consider buying the last one (blue) if it was centered

I could center it if you'd like. Would take like two minutes of adjusting the css.

Oracle Porn · 08-08-2008, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by potter

Ok, I figured it was just because this was an adult forum. And adult design simply varies so much from mainstream. BUT I clicked on the banner showing right now (no refreshing or anything) http://affiliates.meatcash.com/?nats...IwOjIz,0,0,0,0

There is a link back to the designer on that one. You think they paid less than $300 for that because of the link back?

they probably did that because they are good guys not because they have to..

potter · 08-08-2008, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

maybe he is a good designer and does nice work...but $300 + linkback + informing him is redicilous and i think most people agree.... $300 for such work is not cheap...

You don't work in mainstream much do you?

Oracle Porn · 08-08-2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by potter

You don't work in mainstream much do you?

well who gives a shit about mainstream on gfy?

just as no one give a shit about adult in mainstream....this is not mainstream and what you are asking is ridiculous imho....please don't be offended nothing personal.

potter · 08-08-2008, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

they probably did that because they are good guys not because they have to..

Doubt full, generally a designer will design their logo/link into a design upon creation. Plus it's not like I'm asking a lot for these designs. If I was asking $3,000 for these designs instead of $300. I could maybe see a fuss (actually no I wouldn't, because why would anyone not want the designer's link on there. shady much?). But I'm only asking $300, so it just makes me laugh.

potter · 08-08-2008, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

well who gives a shit about mainstream on gfy?

just as no one give a shit about adult in mainstream....this is not mainstream and what you are asking is ridiculous imho....please don't be offended nothing personal.

Oh, I'm not offended. I merely bring this here as I've done loads of business straight off this board. I'm not a stranger to the majority of people here. If I'm going to throw some designs up for sale, might as well toss em up on gfy too. I can hang with the haters, it's gfy - it's expected.

gah, but i have a meeting in 30 minutes and im already prob going to be late.. so i gotta go!!!

later

Marcus Aurelius · 08-08-2008, 07:36 AM

Bump for ya. good luck with the sale.

robfantasy · 08-08-2008, 07:56 AM

Oracle Porn · 08-08-2008, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by potter

I can hang with the haters, it's gfy - it's expected.

for some reason you sound offended...i'm not a hater i just call it as i see it...never ever have I had a designer forcing me to keep up his link....Ill gladly put the link on my webmasters page but shit i do it as a favor not because i have to....i already paid for the design isnt that enough?

when you buy a script you pay $100-200-300-500 for a script that took endless hours to make and pay very little for it thats why its per domain basis...and %95 of the time there is no link (i paid for the script remember???)

with design you work 1-2 hours MAX on each of those and want $300 + extras? please....

p.s. 3k? lol if you think all of those designs together worth 3k you are smoking crack.

The Truth Hurts · 08-08-2008, 08:17 AM

well.... at least ya fixed the typo.

Ecchi22 · 08-08-2008, 09:11 AM

being honest != hate

You should think about it

My point isn't about linking anyway.. Its about situation we have here. Look around what designers are making for $300 today.
If you think your work is worth $3000 that's fine. Everyone has his own price and respect for himself.. Its same like working somewhere, some people would work for $1000/month and some would be offended if you offer them $3000/month for the same job. That's it.

We're just stating our honest opinions here, no hate at all.

JamesK · 08-08-2008, 09:36 AM

Any designer that comes here and say it's overpriced is an idiot. We already compete vs outsourced philipino designers, I think the least you could do is shut up and let the man sell his designs. I know it seems rather expensive and the terms are weird, but it's his fucking business and let him run the way he wants to run it.

If you can do better, please do so and compete. If not, shut the fuck up.

fris · 08-08-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesK

Any designer that comes here and say it's overpriced is an idiot. We already compete vs outsourced philipino designers, I think the least you could do is shut up and let the man sell his designs. I know it seems rather expensive and the terms are weird, but it's his fucking business and let him run the way he wants to run it.

If you can do better, please do so and compete. If not, shut the fuck up.

totally agree, most designers have the same style, only a select few have a unique look, and the ones that do are higher priced than the usual asshat designers

Iron Fist · 08-08-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by potter

lol Maybe you should stick around longer then, you still have a lot to learn.

Just my

Haha no problem... talk to me in 5 years

tranza · 08-08-2008, 10:35 AM

I'm sure there are designers over here on GFY that would do similar designs for $100-$150.

Those designs are not so great, and doesn't look like you took over a couple of hours to do it.

klaze · 08-08-2008, 10:41 AM

Saw this thread again..

And i'm still amazed how bad those designs are.. It's a fucking joke right?

NoWhErE · 08-08-2008, 11:01 AM

I admit the terms a bit wierd...

the price : ok
the linkback : fine

Advising you about changing it to a new domain = how the hell are you going to enforce it? I know its great for you to know whats happening with your designs, but that seems like asking for alot. Hell, just include a 1pixel tracker on your designs so that you can track the stuff on your own without the buyer having to go through the trouble of contacting you.

And as for adult designs go. This industry is all about quantity and not quality. 300$ is a good price for mainstream, but expensive for adult.

potter · 08-08-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

for some reason you sound offended...i'm not a hater i just call it as i see it...never ever have I had a designer forcing me to keep up his link....Ill gladly put the link on my webmasters page but shit i do it as a favor not because i have to....i already paid for the design isnt that enough?

when you buy a script you pay $100-200-300-500 for a script that took endless hours to make and pay very little for it thats why its per domain basis...and %95 of the time there is no link (i paid for the script remember???)

with design you work 1-2 hours MAX on each of those and want $300 + extras? please....

p.s. 3k? lol if you think all of those designs together worth 3k you are smoking crack.

Nah, it just cracks me up how people hate without any real basis. I do this full time. I work for a local design firm here in Denver part time. Doing design and css coding. I also own my business which I design / code for part time. I've been doing this for nearly a decade now. If someone of any real stature came in here and cracked on the deal then so be it. I might actually take in that criticism. Everything else is just random no name people on gfy hating.

And I spent a lot more time on those than 1-2 hours. But it doesn't really matter, it's all relative.

potter · 08-08-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE

And as for adult designs go. This industry is all about quantity and not quality. 300$ is a good price for mainstream, but expensive for adult.

Show me a website making $300 mainstream designs dude. I'll outsource some shit.

potter · 08-08-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza

I'm sure there are designers over here on GFY that would do similar designs for $100-$150.

Those designs are not so great, and doesn't look like you took over a couple of hours to do it.

Who? I know a lot of designers. Don't know anyone doing designs like that for $100-$150. Hell, even some of the non-exclusive WP themes are over a hundred.

potter · 08-08-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesK

Any designer that comes here and say it's overpriced is an idiot. We already compete vs outsourced philipino designers, I think the least you could do is shut up and let the man sell his designs. I know it seems rather expensive and the terms are weird, but it's his fucking business and let him run the way he wants to run it.

If you can do better, please do so and compete. If not, shut the fuck up.

It's all good. There aren't any designers coming in here and hating. In fact, I have not seen one person even compare a single design and price to anything relative which is better or cheaper. So whatever, it's Friday!!!

Iron Fist · 08-08-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by potter

I've been doing this for nearly a decade now.

Wow... you want a cookie for that or something? Like you said.. it's Friday... why don't you turn off the computer and go find a girl at the bar and get laid to get rid of some of that stress...

Your making these criticisms personal... just my

HomeFry · 08-08-2008, 04:54 PM

Those designs are terrible. They look like some of the puke I've had in the past. They make me want to gouge out my eyes. I've taken shits that look better.
(Insert another 200 comments about how ugly those designs are.)
(Insert 48 comments about how over priced they are.)

HomeFry · 08-08-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by potter

Who? I know a lot of designers. Don't know anyone doing designs like that for $100-$150. Hell, even some of the non-exclusive WP themes are over a hundred.

You don't see people doing designs like that....

Because they suck.

HomeFry · 08-08-2008, 04:56 PM

Those have got to be THE worst designs I've ever seen in my entire life.

HomeFry · 08-08-2008, 04:59 PM

You should just stop. Give up now before you hurt yourself. Designing is obviously not for you. Maybe pick up abstract painting? At least then, you can make ugly designs, and it could be considered some sort of "Art".

harvey · 08-08-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

for some reason you sound offended...i'm not a hater i just call it as i see it...never ever have I had a designer forcing me to keep up his link....Ill gladly put the link on my webmasters page but shit i do it as a favor not because i have to....i already paid for the design isnt that enough?

when you buy a script you pay $100-200-300-500 for a script that took endless hours to make and pay very little for it thats why its per domain basis...and %95 of the time there is no link (i paid for the script remember???)

with design you work 1-2 hours MAX on each of those and want $300 + extras? please....

p.s. 3k? lol if you think all of those designs together worth 3k you are smoking crack.

you're giving him the reason. scripts are sold lots of times, hence the time you put on it is compensated by selling it many times. He's requiring this to be sure the design is sold just one time, it's the usual way to work in mainstream design.

NoWhErE · 08-08-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by potter

Show me a website making $300 mainstream designs dude. I'll outsource some shit.

Any outsourcing company could probably come up with what you did for alot cheaper. It won't be pure CSS... but meh... your site loads slowly anyhow... so whats the diff?

They are cool looking designs, but they're not great. They are awkward and are difficult to navigate.

Good luck with your sale.

Babaganoosh · 08-08-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by potter

...
If you ever want to move the design to a different website or url, I must be informed. An outgoing link which is pre-inserted into each design linking to my design website suburban pixel must remain unedited with each design.

I'm starting each design for sale at $300.

Nigga puhleese.

potter · 08-08-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HomeFry

Those have got to be THE worst designs I've ever seen in my entire life.

Welcome to the intarwebs dude. It's big, get out more.

potter · 08-08-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by harvey

you're giving him the reason. scripts are sold lots of times, hence the time you put on it is compensated by selling it many times. He's requiring this to be sure the design is sold just one time, it's the usual way to work in mainstream design.

This logic seemed to pass up the haters. Your designs are nice btw - you're one of four designers here on gfy I have absolute respect for.

P.S. I swear I didn't compliment you merely because I'm drunk. We've just never had a chance to interact in any other thread before.

08-07-2008, 08:45 PM	#1
potter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 6,559	High End Pure CSS Designs FOR SALE / AUCTION Alright, I'm closing down a few personal websites. However, the sites have some wicked ass designs on them. So instead of letting the designs sit on my HD to waste I'm going to sell them. Each design is coded into a Pure CSS layout (view source, I write it very clean). In which both the CSS and HTML validate in w3c (check for yourself). Provided with each sale, will be a zipped file containing the images, and html file(s). Each design will be edited by myself to provide any title, logo, or url images to match your own website name and url. Each design will be sold exclusively to one website and one person (no reselling). If you ever want to move the design to a different website or url, I must be informed. An outgoing link which is pre-inserted into each design linking to my design website suburban pixel must remain unedited with each design. I'm starting each design for sale at $300. Please make all bids here, as if more than one person wants a particular design you may bid on the design in $50 increments. Tile Design (mainstream) doctype: xhtml 1.0 Strict -- view design -- Urban Design (mainstream) doctype: html 4.01 Transitional -- view design -- Blue Design (adult / blog) doctype: html 4.01 Transitional -- view design -- Any questions, just ask and I'll answer them as best I can. __________________

08-07-2008, 09:19 PM	#4
Sawblade2dahead Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lauderdale - Costa Rica Posts: 286	This is a joke right??? Hi-end... lay off the pipe brotha __________________ http://www.camcabana.com Live Fucking And Sucking

08-07-2008, 09:24 PM	#5
potter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 6,559	lol. i <3 gfy haters __________________

08-07-2008, 10:11 PM	#6
potter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 6,559	one bump before i go to bed. __________________

08-08-2008, 01:37 AM	#11
Ecchi22 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,012	I don't like to disappoint you or something and I respect all designers as I respect myself, but those are kinda overpriced.. IMHO you should feel lucky if you can sell them for $300 __________________

08-07-2008, 10:25 PM	#7
The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,297	you can go on and on about pure css high end designs and have all kinds of silly requirements to buy your work... that's your right.. but if you can't even spot the typo in a one word graphic... what good are ya?

08-08-2008, 01:08 AM	#9
klaze So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: Adult Marketing Mecca Posts: 2,167	Yah... a little bit of decent photoshop work... but those designs are horrible. and $300 yer crazy. heh.

08-08-2008, 01:33 AM	#10
fallenmuffin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,170	Linkbacks should make them free. $300 and a linkback plus notifying you anytime its moved. Oy Vey.

08-08-2008, 04:09 AM	#13
mrwilson mrwilson 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ICQ: 465406783 Posts: 5,122	Nice design man, but you can honestly expect some one to pay that much and stil leave a link back to your site? Good luck with the sale i guess ;)

08-08-2008, 05:07 AM	#14
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,359	potter has done work for me in the past, he does really nice work, fuck the haters, potter is on my list of designers of who to work with. i would consider buying the last one (blue) if it was centered __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

08-08-2008, 05:11 AM	#15
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	I like those designs quite a bit.... they're very clean, and simple yet not simple at all. And the source code is very clean. Especially the last one where the images are kept to the end of the code. Good work on them! __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

08-08-2008, 07:36 AM	#26
Marcus Aurelius No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 14,809	Bump for ya. good luck with the sale.

08-08-2008, 07:56 AM	#27
robfantasy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Medellin, Colombia Posts: 6,445	__________________ Looking to speak w/ high volume nutra CPA affiliates or networks... msg me

08-08-2008, 08:17 AM	#29
The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,297	well.... at least ya fixed the typo.

08-08-2008, 09:11 AM	#30
Ecchi22 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,012	being honest != hate You should think about it My point isn't about linking anyway.. Its about situation we have here. Look around what designers are making for $300 today. If you think your work is worth $3000 that's fine. Everyone has his own price and respect for himself.. Its same like working somewhere, some people would work for $1000/month and some would be offended if you offer them $3000/month for the same job. That's it. We're just stating our honest opinions here, no hate at all. __________________

08-08-2008, 09:36 AM	#31
JamesK hi Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 16,731	Any designer that comes here and say it's overpriced is an idiot. We already compete vs outsourced philipino designers, I think the least you could do is shut up and let the man sell his designs. I know it seems rather expensive and the terms are weird, but it's his fucking business and let him run the way he wants to run it. If you can do better, please do so and compete. If not, shut the fuck up. __________________ M3Server - NATS Hosting

08-08-2008, 10:35 AM	#34
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	I'm sure there are designers over here on GFY that would do similar designs for $100-$150. Those designs are not so great, and doesn't look like you took over a couple of hours to do it. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

08-08-2008, 10:41 AM	#35
klaze So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: Adult Marketing Mecca Posts: 2,167	Saw this thread again.. And i'm still amazed how bad those designs are.. It's a fucking joke right?

08-08-2008, 11:01 AM	#36
NoWhErE Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 10,353	I admit the terms a bit wierd... the price : ok the linkback : fine Advising you about changing it to a new domain = how the hell are you going to enforce it? I know its great for you to know whats happening with your designs, but that seems like asking for alot. Hell, just include a 1pixel tracker on your designs so that you can track the stuff on your own without the buyer having to go through the trouble of contacting you. And as for adult designs go. This industry is all about quantity and not quality. 300$ is a good price for mainstream, but expensive for adult. __________________ skype: lordofthecameltoe

08-08-2008, 04:54 PM	#42
HomeFry Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,062	Those designs are terrible. They look like some of the puke I've had in the past. They make me want to gouge out my eyes. I've taken shits that look better. (Insert another 200 comments about how ugly those designs are.) (Insert 48 comments about how over priced they are.)

08-08-2008, 04:56 PM	#44
HomeFry Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,062	Those have got to be THE worst designs I've ever seen in my entire life.

08-08-2008, 04:59 PM	#45
HomeFry Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,062	You should just stop. Give up now before you hurt yourself. Designing is obviously not for you. Maybe pick up abstract painting? At least then, you can make ugly designs, and it could be considered some sort of "Art".