IE pisses me off

**LiveDose** · 02-01-2009, 02:44 PM

IE has been locking up my computer the last 3 days. So frustrating.

**fris** · 02-01-2009, 02:44 PM

developer speaking, ie sucks, but surfing I like it, i only use firefox if im checking out if its compatible, or i need to use a plugin

**Libertine** · 02-01-2009, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by fris

developer speaking, ie sucks, but surfing I like it, i only use firefox if im checking out if its compatible, or i need to use a plugin

I use FF for surfing, but don't mind using IE for that either.

My current problem is with development, though. And even if I'll get it right eventually, that's several hours wasted because MS can't follow standards

**Malicious Biz** · 02-01-2009, 03:02 PM

http://www.blackweb20.com/2008/12/08...rowser-speaks/

Use a real browser, honkey.

**Darkcrni** · 02-01-2009, 03:05 PM

Why the fuck you are using Ie.
If the Ie get fucked up for some reason( vir, troj) you have to reinstal your Win.
Just stop using it, use FF or Opera at worst, not IE!!!

**fris** · 02-01-2009, 03:48 PM

ie8 isnt bad tho

**Libertine** · 02-01-2009, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by Darkcrni

Why the fuck you are using Ie.
If the Ie get fucked up for some reason( vir, troj) you have to reinstal your Win.
Just stop using it, use FF or Opera at worst, not IE!!!

GTFO, surfer.

(and yes, if you don't understand that websites I make have to work on IE, you're a surfer alright)

**zabijaq** · 02-01-2009, 05:03 PM

IE is 8958495 steps behind any browser in term of speed, interface and security.

Fook IE.

**ExLust** · 02-01-2009, 10:08 PM

I'm not using anymore IE.

**SomeCreep** · 02-01-2009, 10:12 PM

People still use IE? Dang.

**Adultnet** · 02-02-2009, 12:07 AM

move to chrome

**JamesK** · 02-02-2009, 12:09 AM

Yep, IE can be a pain in the ass when it comes to developing. I always work live in both FF and IE to reduce the damage.

**Libertine** · 02-02-2009, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by JamesK

Yep, IE can be a pain in the ass when it comes to developing. I always work live in both FF and IE to reduce the damage.

That's what I do as well, but then, you can get what I call "the dance".

Your write some css, it works perfectly in FF, but in IE, whatever object you're trying to place is a few pixels to the side. So, you change your code, and now it looks good in IE, but in FF it has moved a few pixels. Etc.

It's pretty common with vertically aligned forms, in my experience. And you can usually solve it easily by using an exception for IE, but I hate doing that.

**Deej** · 02-02-2009, 12:45 AM

are you using strict settings? and eliminating all default margins and padding?

**Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE** · 02-02-2009, 12:53 AM

ff all the way...

**Libertine** · 02-02-2009, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by Deej

are you using strict settings? and eliminating all default margins and padding?

Of course.

The thing that I ran into last night is actually a well-documented issue, with the only reliable fix being an exception for IE.

**Deej** · 02-02-2009, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by Libertine

Of course.

The thing that I ran into last night is actually a well-documented issue, with the only reliable fix being an exception for IE.

mind sharing the issue?

**JamesK** · 02-02-2009, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by Libertine

Of course.

The thing that I ran into last night is actually a well-documented issue, with the only reliable fix being an exception for IE.

I hear ya.

In some cases it might be useful making an additional CSS file that's only read by IE. That's what I usually do when shit gets bad.

http://css-tricks.com/how-to-create-...ly-stylesheet/

**Deej** · 02-02-2009, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by JamesK

I hear ya.

In some cases it might be useful making an additional CSS file that's only read by IE. That's what I usually do when shit gets bad.

http://css-tricks.com/how-to-create-...ly-stylesheet/

FUckin A

**Libertine** · 02-02-2009, 01:24 AM

The issue I was having was related to the one described here:
http://www.sohtanaka.com/web-design/...arch-form-css/

**JamesK** · 02-02-2009, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by Libertine

The issue I was having was related to the one described here:
http://www.sohtanaka.com/web-design/...arch-form-css/

I had that exact same problem a few weeks ago

**Libertine** · 02-02-2009, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by JamesK

I hear ya.

In some cases it might be useful making an additional CSS file that's only read by IE. That's what I usually do when shit gets bad.

http://css-tricks.com/how-to-create-...ly-stylesheet/

See, my OCD doesn't allow me to actually do that. Everything must work with one single valid stylesheet, or I will be frustrated

**tranza** · 02-02-2009, 01:40 AM

I seriously have so many fucking problems with IE, MS could debug this and transform into a browser more flexible, and it crashes a lot here... Safari works better than this piece of shit!

**Deej** · 02-02-2009, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by Libertine

The issue I was having was related to the one described here:
http://www.sohtanaka.com/web-design/...arch-form-css/

Originally posted by JamesK

I had that exact same problem a few weeks ago

Me fucking too... fuck that hurt my head for a couple hours too man...

found a way thoughhhhhh!!!!

**Allformyspace** · 02-02-2009, 04:18 AM

Originally posted by fris

developer speaking, ie sucks, but surfing I like it, i only use firefox if im checking out if its compatible, or i need to use a plugin

same here

**chelis** · 02-02-2009, 06:57 AM

IE is a pain in the ass for developers!
It will never follow the standards, you just have to get used to it and code for different browsers. Sad but true.

**HomerSimpson** · 02-02-2009, 07:04 AM

switch to FF and forget about IE...
I use it only to check my sites look...

**Deej** · 02-02-2009, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by HomerSimpson

switch to FF and forget about IE...
I use it only to check my sites look...

I think he said he does use FF...

im sure hes just trying to make it compatible across all browsers... for surfers sake....

Its not about what WE prefer... its about making it available for ALL

**collegeboobies** · 02-02-2009, 12:36 PM

IE rocks

**JamesK** · 02-02-2009, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by HomerSimpson

switch to FF and forget about IE...
I use it only to check my sites look...

**DiF0r** · 02-02-2009, 01:26 PM

I'm not a fan of IE and FF stops responding and runs in the processes.. I should try Chrome

**UFGators2007** · 02-02-2009, 05:12 PM

Just go with FF.

**Deej** · 02-02-2009, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by UFGators2007

Just go with FF.

perfect solution, thanks

**Spunky** · 02-02-2009, 05:16 PM

I'm trying FF as IE keeps crashing on here.Adobe flash problems

**Libertine** · 02-02-2009, 07:54 PM

I am thoroughly shocked that so many people think that when I'm complaining about standards, I'm looking for something to browse with.

Is GFY really *that* infested with surfers these days?

**Deej** · 02-02-2009, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by Libertine

I am thoroughly shocked that so many people think that when I'm complaining about standards, I'm looking for something to browse with.

Is GFY really *that* infested with surfers these days?

Dude, would you just fucking use Firefox... Fuck IE>.. it sucks... right?

**GeoBeo** · 02-02-2009, 11:51 PM

so dont use it.

**JamesK** · 02-03-2009, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by GeoBeo

so dont use it.

**Deej** · 02-03-2009, 12:58 AM

This thread is double Picard worthy

JD · 02-03-2009, 12:59 AM

conditional stylesheets ftw

**Deej** · 02-03-2009, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by JD

conditional stylesheets ftw

no dude, its much simpler... just use FF - fucking duh yo

**JamesK** · 02-03-2009, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by Deej

This thread is double Picard worthy

Originally posted by Deej

no dude, its much simpler... just use FF - fucking duh yo

Word

**bizarrejan** · 02-03-2009, 03:41 AM

Originally posted by Libertine

Seriously, why the fuck can't MS just follow the bloody standards?

cos they are MS

IE pisses me off

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