Tubes, torrents, and piracy. A webmaster's take

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  • Barefootsies
    Choice is an Illusion
    • Feb 2005
    • 42635
    #31
    1. Clip stores already exist.
    2. Clip stores are already successful.
    3. That allows customers to buy the SINGLE clip they want.
    Even if they pay more for the convenience.
    4. Solution is already here.

    Originally posted by Snake Doctor
    The problem with that for me, the affiliate webmaster, is that there's nowhere in that model for me to make a profit.
    You are correct.
    Last edited by Barefootsies; 01-27-2009, 04:56 PM.
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      • tony299
        lurker
        • Aug 2002
        • 57021
        #32
        we have that already its called clips for sale. also porn cant be sold at 3 dollars a clip its not like music where u sell a million downloads. I think we keep forgetting those looking for free arent going to buy anyway you do it. Once again unlike the music industry,our industry helped finance this.
        Last edited by tony286; 01-27-2009, 04:59 PM.

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          • Snake Doctor
            I'm Lenny2 Bitch
            • Mar 2001
            • 13449
            #33
            Originally posted by tony404
            we have that already its called clips for sale. also porn cant be sold at 3 dollars a clip its not like music where u sell a million downloads. I think we keep forgetting those looking free arent going to buy anyway you do it. Once again unlike the music industry,our industry helped finance this.
            You can't really compare clips4sale with iTunes. That's like comparing your old gremlin with a new ferrari. Yeah they're both cars, but c'mon.

            There are some companies I know of working on an iTunes like solution that will allow them to monetize their content in this way, and possibly even sell other people's content for a % or fee.....but again, for me, the affiliate webmaster, it still cuts me out of the picture.

            Music is available for free on limewire, bittorent, and other places, but iTunes has still sold 6 billion downloads.
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              • abyss_al
                **LOOKING FOR TRADES**
                • Oct 2003
                • 15605
                #34
                Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                Before you jump up and down and cheer about the imminent demise of these sites, realize that Napster shutting down didn't bring back the popularity of the $18 CD. It just opened the door for the next technology that gave the end users what they really wanted, rather than what the record labels wanted to sell.

                Steve Jobs - the right guy in the right place at the right time with the right idea and the ability to execute it. He's the one guy (other than consumers) who truly benefited from this situation. I wish I could tell you I had the equivalent idea for our industry...but if I did I'd be working on it, not writing this post.

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                  • tony299
                    lurker
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 57021
                    #35
                    Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                    You can't really compare clips4sale with iTunes. That's like comparing your old gremlin with a new ferrari. Yeah they're both cars, but c'mon.

                    There are some companies I know of working on an iTunes like solution that will allow them to monetize their content in this way, and possibly even sell other people's content for a % or fee.....but again, for me, the affiliate webmaster, it still cuts me out of the picture.

                    Music is available for free on limewire, bittorent, and other places, but iTunes has still sold 6 billion downloads.
                    If they think almost giving it away is going to make sales they are kidding themselves. Porn isnt music.People dont bargain shop porn, if they like they will buy it.

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                      • Barefootsies
                        Choice is an Illusion
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 42635
                        #36
                        Originally posted by tony404
                        If they think almost giving it away is going to make sales they are kidding themselves. Porn isnt music.People dont bargain shop porn, if they like they will buy it.
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                          • Si
                            Such Fun!
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 13900
                            #37
                            all torrent sites and illegal tube sites will eventually be closed!
                            They are spending to much time on the illegal porn and incest websites at the moment, once they are sorted out then the torrents and tubes will be dealt with.
                            It's already happening! torrentspy=dead, piratebay=dead. a lot of the music download software that used to be free like edonkey etc... is now legal and you have to pay for it. the internet will eventually become very legal, at the moment it's only halfway there.

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                              • Barefootsies
                                Choice is an Illusion
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 42635
                                #38
                                Originally posted by mobilefun1987
                                all torrent sites and illegal tube sites will eventually be closed!
                                They are spending to much time on the illegal porn and incest websites at the moment, once they are sorted out then the torrents and tubes will be dealt with.
                                It's already happening! torrentspy=dead, piratebay=dead. a lot of the music download software that used to be free like edonkey etc... is now legal and you have to pay for it. the internet will eventually become very legal, at the moment it's only halfway there.
                                Slippery slope...
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                                  • Si
                                    Such Fun!
                                    • Feb 2008
                                    • 13900
                                    #39
                                    PS napster is not shut down FYI! it's gone legal

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                                      • Snake Doctor
                                        I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                        • Mar 2001
                                        • 13449
                                        #40
                                        Originally posted by tony404
                                        If they think almost giving it away is going to make sales they are kidding themselves. Porn isnt music.People dont bargain shop porn, if they like they will buy it.
                                        If that was true then the review sites wouldn't have any traffic, but they have tons of it. Tons of joins also.

                                        Alot of times porn is an impulse purchase, but alot of other times people do shop around to get the best value for their money.
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                                          • tony299
                                            lurker
                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 57021
                                            #41
                                            Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                            If that was true then the review sites wouldn't have any traffic, but they have tons of it. Tons of joins also.

                                            Alot of times porn is an impulse purchase, but alot of other times people do shop around to get the best value for their money.
                                            They aren't looking for price on review sites, if thats the case their best sellers would be the cheapest.

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                                              • Si
                                                Such Fun!
                                                • Feb 2008
                                                • 13900
                                                #42
                                                Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                Slippery slope...
                                                Is it? I don't think so. porn is legal! selling porn, dvd's and music which doesn't belong to you is illegal!

                                                These thing will still exist but the cunts stealing everything being cheap arseholes not paying anything will be fucked! and I can't wait to see the day when that happens

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                                                  • Barefootsies
                                                    Choice is an Illusion
                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                    • 42635
                                                    #43
                                                    Originally posted by mobilefun1987
                                                    Is it? I don't think so. porn is legal! selling porn, dvd's and music which doesn't belong to you is illegal!

                                                    These thing will still exist but the cunts stealing everything being cheap arseholes not paying anything will be fucked! and I can't wait to see the day when that happens
                                                    I agree with your hatred, and thoughts on content theft. However...

                                                    I believe it is a slippery slope because when you refer to 'legalizing things', that means government intervention on a grand scale. I do not think government intervention on the internet as a whole is a good thing.

                                                    They tend to use a cannon or an axe instead of a scalpel.
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                                                      • Snake Doctor
                                                        I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                        • 13449
                                                        #44
                                                        Originally posted by tony404
                                                        They aren't looking for price on review sites, if thats the case their best sellers would be the cheapest.
                                                        They are.

                                                        Check out videobox. Alot of sites offer special pricing to the surfers of review sites...specifically because they're so price sensitive.
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                                                          • Si
                                                            Such Fun!
                                                            • Feb 2008
                                                            • 13900
                                                            #45
                                                            Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                            I agree with your hatred, and thoughts on content theft. However...

                                                            I believe it is a slippery slope because when you refer to 'legalizing things', that means government intervention on a grand scale. I do not think government intervention on the internet as a whole is a good thing.

                                                            They tend to use a cannon or an axe instead of a scalpel.
                                                            Thats very true, I think the 2257 introduction was a complete fuck up and didn't really help with the underage content situation that much.

                                                            But as for torrents and illegal downloads it should be pretty easy to get rid of them.

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