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my youngest son, (who is 8 and does not live with me by the way), is getting picked on repeatedly by some kids at school... this is starting to affect him in some bad ways.... he has nearly zero self confidence, and is becoming depressed....

as a father, should I advise him to open up some serious whoopass on these kids, or somehow talk to him and try to explain why he shouldn't feel bad about the things they say and do.... ?

I personally think the ass kickin' method is better.... but I'm not sure if he's ready to handle that.... but I'm not sure any amount of trying to rationalize what those kids are doing is going to work.... he's really down on himself.

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DarkJedi

teach him some moves man. if he gets one of them down with a swift punch to the throat - others won't fuck with him anymore.


btw, american school bulleys (sp?) are pussies. when i was in US high school as an axchange student, there were some fuckhead picking on me because they though i was a communist. One day i got sick and I knocked out one of them right away. The other bunch just left me alone. I got respect, some other people got friends with me and said that fucking with me was fucking with them.

RedShoe

Self defense classes... (Karate, Tai Kwon Do...)

Seriously, he'll learn discipline, and self confidence. And yeah, talk to him a lot. Keep his mind occupied. Tell him why other kids bully other kids. Tell him he's loved. Do it.

This kind of shit can fuck kids up well into thier thirties. Teach him to fight, but only as a last resort. And to stand his ground. Even if he takes a beating, at least he fought back. And it'll probably toughen him up a little.

But most importantly, go thru this with him. Talk to him, be there for him.

You can talk all kinds of shit on the boards but when it comes down to what matters in life, your family comes first.

I don't know, maybe it's the booze talkin'

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today in our overly political correct pansy ass society... people would frown upon encouraging your kid to kick ass.

I however, am a strong advocate of the old fashion ass whoopin.

Lets face it, kids dont know justice or virtue... they know fear. Respect, at 8.. is through how tough you are... you get picked on cause kids think they can do it and get away with it. If they realize .. hey... if i talk shit im gettin a face full of knuckles.. then they'll think twice.

True story:

When i was in middle school this one kid thought it was a good idea to make fun of my during lunch. Dont' get me wrong i wasnt a major dork or anything that always got picked on so it was kinda weird. Anyways, one day I got fed up with it and threw the kid into a radiator and basically punked him out in front of the whole class.

From that day on, i had a "new friend".

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MagicksAntics

Amp...I just went through something like this with my 6 year old daughter a few weeks ago.

What we did was have a long sit down with her and we did explain that she's an awesome person and that the only reason that the other kid was picking on her was because he didn't know who she was. We encouraged her to spend time around other kids that are her friends and people that make her feel good about herself.

I told her that if anyone was physically hurting her and would not let her go, to hit them as hard as she could and run to get an adult. She fully understands the concept of self-defense now.

I also had a talk with the teacher who has been extremely helpful in the situation, watching closely over both children and separating them when need be. Of course she can't watch over them all the time...but between talking to her and showing her a lot of love and support and the teacher reinforcing that in school, things are MUCH better.

Maybe it's different for boys...but that seemed to work for her.

Good luck man.

[Labret]

This is a situation that will only be taken care of with the proper application of whoop ass.

There is no better confidence booster than kicking someones ass who really needs it.

Jakke PNG

Some fuckers teased me at school.. I didn't pay any attention to it, I couldn't care less.. anyways, it got pretty bad.
It stopped the day I kicked the 'main guys' ass big time.

Not a parental advice exactly, but worked for me.

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Gemini

Teach him the sticks and stones thing first. You don't want a fight on his record so early in school. If that doesn't work, go to the principal AND have the kids parents hauled in to talk. They are really looking down on fighting anymore. And it usually doesn't help, just elevates the violence.

-=HOAX=-

I totally agree, its not something to go alone, kids are ruthless devils...

I think its important to get with him and do something that takes a certain amount of self confidence or self reliance, like camping or surfing even...something that will scare him but reward him when he overcomes the fear...

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Respect only comes in two forms 1) from fear and 2) from admiration: fear or admiration. I suspect which one to go for depends upon which kind of response he is likely to be able to get from the other kids.

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Amputate Your Head

I'm a firm believer in the ass whoopin' program... problem is his mother is not so pro-asswhoop.

I got picked on too as a kid, and in the fifth grade, I'd had enough. Broke the nose of the biggest one, got booted out of school for a few days, and never got picked on again.

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DarkJedi

exactly. teach him to be a man and to never back off when someones makes a move on him. teach him to stand his ground - this is much needed in his future life. it will raise his confidence like nothing else. even if he gets beat up - they will remeber him as a die hard and from then on they will think twice before fucking with him.

Amputate Your Head

she's going to talk with the school counselor about it in a few days.... gotta wait and see what help that brings, if any....

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BJ

On the upside, Kids who get picked on usually end up being very successful later on in life.

Maybe he should put his effort into doing things he enjoys and find others with similar interests. Get involved with something outside of school with differnt kids sharing the same interests. Once he has a good group of friends it probably wont bother him as much when he gets picked on.

Va2k

I was picked on in school intill the 8th grade then I put a guy in the hospital for 3 weeks after kneeing him in the nose and smashing his face into the brick wall, after that I got in a few more fights cause people just wanted to see if they can get me going again and yea it worked as for teaching the kids of today,

I have told myself and so far told myson who is 6 if he starts a fight I will take him to his class and whip his ass in front of everyone... Then I told him if somone picks on him or hits him first and if he runs away like a pussy I would whip his ass and ground him and then make him goto school while I went with him and walked around and sat beside him all day... I dont want MY kids to EVER feel like I did up to the 8th grade EVER but then Latley ive been thinking it might not be a bad idea if he did run away with all the knifes and guns at school shit last year we had 4 kids killed at school one kid stabbed a kid todeath with a FORK from lunch...


Hell I am like you on this AMP I dont know what to do or say and If we as parents go to school and rat on the kids that are picking on our kids that will be worse for our kids... If we tell them to fuck soemoen up for fuckign with them and either they kill the other kid or the other kid kills our kid how would we feel...


ITS NOT like it was when I was going to school yea we had little knife fights but no guns and 9 out of 10 times it was just fighting.. it's scary as shit to think about.. I hope when you do make your choice you will post it here and give us updates


good luck mate

TOM

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Pete

Dont resort to violence, it wont help especially if he loses the fight or gets ganged up on. Talk to school teachers and the Principal or even the cops. Let them know whats going on and tell them it needs to stop. Its your right to have an education, not a privilage. Make them stop it!

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Self defence is for women!
Anyone see the "king of the hill" where Bobby took self defence?
LOL

Put the kid in Karate or Kung-Fu.
Talk to him as well.

You could talk to the school, tell them your child feels unsafe and they should do something ASAP.

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I would put him in a martial arts class - not really for the ability to woop ass but because of the self-confidence that it would create

Sly_RJ

The problem here isn't that the kid is getting picked on. The problem is the kid has no self confidence. THAT'S the problem, and THAT'S what you need to fix.

No 8 year old should be lacking in self confidence, there's no excuse. Find out what makes the kid high, and make the little dude high as a kite (this doesn't involve drugs!) Don't start with all the fake sappy shit that moms love to give, "oh sweetie, your brothers love you." Take him surfing, hiking, camping, ANYTHING... find what he's good at and complement him all to hell. A REAL genuine complement. If that doesn't bring a nice smile to his face, nothing will.

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Va2k

FUCK YEA man I totaly agree with this statment... even though when I took karate I thought after a few months I was a bad ass and got into a fight and tried my karate leet skills on the guy and ended up getting my ass whooped like a red headed step child.

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Va2k

Damn some good freaking ideas here.... Hope know one minds me posting on this.. Shit My kids didnt come with a handbook so any INFO is great Thanks sly

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Amputate Your Head

I thought you were a redheaded stepchild.... aren't you?

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Oh stupid me I forgot this isn't Canada.
Learning to fight is a bad idea, just give him a handgun so he's on the same level as all the other shitheads down there.
Guns at American schools are common as I've read.

kidding amp, put him in martial arts.

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Good old school playground weapons rock.

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Brown Bear

When I was 6 years old I got picked on by this bully, my parents found out and put me into judo classes. There was no more trouble, and hasn't been since.

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Amputate Your Head

I don't know about all this judo and kung foo stuff.... seems a little extreme for an 8 year old.

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Well when the martial arts fails, and the namby pamby self love bullshit rhetoric does not prevent the humiliation of harassment, give him a fucking screwdriver. Take it back to the old school.

Amputate Your Head

hell yeah....

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Brown Bear

Most kids start learning around 8-10 years old. Seriously, you should look into some martial arts. I reccomend start off with judo.

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DarkJedi

it is. just show him how to connect his fist with an opponents head. that should do the trick.

[Labret]

Or UFC style grappling.

Those karate and ninja fags always get their asses whomped by some brazilian psycopath who takes them to the ground. You cant kick when your own your back and your arm is being pulled out of its socket. Well you can but its pretty ineffective kicking at the air while you scream in agony.

Va2k

naw mate im blonde but IM CLOSE though

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cherrylula

The scary thing is that kids seem to be fighting rather dirty nowdays. I'm so glad I'm not a kid right now.

Brown Bear

I agree. Thats what judo is all about. Immobilize your opponent so they can't strike you, but you are capable of hurting them (if you wish).

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Brown Bear

Yeah, guns in schools are a scary thing. I've had a knife pulled on me twice, but never a gun.

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Amputate Your Head

in the 3rd grade during story time.... we were all sitting on the floor and the teacher was reading, and this kid named Brian pissed me off..... I stabbed him in the shoulder with my pencil and broke the lead off.....

I caught serious hell for that.... he had to go to the emergency room and have it removed and get treated for possible lead poisoning.....

old school baby...

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haha...that happened to me in 4th grade! I was teasing this fat girl in class that sat in front of me, eventually she turned around and stabbed me with her pencil and the lead part broke off in my hand. I don't think it's really lead though, I think pencils are graphite or some shit like that.

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cherrylula

I had a guy pull a loaded flare gun on me late at night at a gas station when I was 16. It was pretty scared heh, he had it aimed right at me for what seemed like a very long time. scary

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I was in Judo for 2 years and Karate for 3 years.

Judo can be kick ass if your really good.
A good example is the UFC fights, that Judo guy beat everyone.

However its really shitty for fighting unless you study it for a long time.
It has helped me only a few times and that when I tripped and landed in a way that didn't hurt.

Karate becomes more useful in fights much sooner then Judo does.
Both are great but I would go with Karate of the two if your looking for a quick fix.
If you think he would stick with martial arts for 10 years then go with Judo.

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Hey Amp,
I have 5 children. I tell them all the same thing. Never touch anyone, unless they touch you first then all bets are off.

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Gary

Karate is for pussies, get him on a 2 hour/day regiment of Submission wrestling and Muay Thai. Trust me, no kids gonna pick on him. or teachers

JustJen

ok, let me give ya my spin... my mom is a third grade teacher of 35 years and my eight year old is in her class. I called her and she actually agrees that martial arts is a great form of self confidence. not only does it build self esteem, but it also teaches what she calls, "self-awareness"

She also said how important it is to have a good relationship with your child's teacher. The teachers know a lot more than the children think they do and can really be quite a benefit (believe you me! I did not know 1/2 of what I know this year about my son. My mom has shed real light on big things for me about his behavior and social skills...)

And one more thought. My son was feeling really down on himself last year because he is extremely hyperactive and was feeling so low. I took him to a child therapist which really helped him out and made him feel so important... OK, talked too long.... So... anyway... I wish you and your son the best.

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Brown Bear

Your kids teacher is his/her grandmother?

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beemk

if the kids are verbally abusing him the kid just needs to woop one of their asses and it should stop.

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JustJen

Yep. She is. I fought it at first, I told her no way... but I am glad I gave into her. My son, as I said, has had trouble in the past and was feeling.... well... quite shitty about his behavior and stuff. My mom has given him the acceptance from a teacher that he really needed (that and his new meds are really doing wonders

ugh... I am wordy tomight, huh?

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TheBigGuy

Amp, combine Redshoe and Sly's advice and you got mine. Good luck.

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sure feed the little guy training and Mai Tais, perfect.

hehehe

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