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  • V_RocKs
    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
    • Nov 2003
    • 32449

    #1

    V_RocKs Stats for 2008

    Just saw XXXJay's stats and decided to release my own. What can I say? XXXJay has been an inspiration of mine ever since I first found his site and wondered how the fucker was making money.

    Stats 2008
  • polish_aristocrat
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2002
    • 40377

    #2
    Rage Cash with hahaha doing better than before he bought it?

    ... and everyone is complaining how hahaha destroys the programs he buys
    I don't use ICQ anymore.

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    • chupachups
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2002
      • 6576

      #3
      Interesting = "Rage Cash - The only program I am pushing that GOT BETTER when hahaha took it over."

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      • VIPimp
        Marina WILL have my babies!
        • May 2003
        • 9234

        #4
        Are you sure the ratios are all based on 1st page hits? Remember many programs dont count 1st page or dont base their ratios on 1st page.

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        • Nicky
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Mar 2003
          • 30071

          #5
          Sweet, will check some of those proggies out for some new blog and freesite ventures

          gfynicky @ gmail.com

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          • TeenCat
            Too lazy to set a koala
            • Jan 2007
            • 16139

            #6
            oh my heart ... 0:21k ... nice that you dont have ref code with the crappy results programs thanks for sharing and wish you best with your sites!

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            • d-null
              . . .
              • Apr 2007
              • 13724

              #7
              Originally posted by VIPimp
              Are you sure the ratios are all based on 1st page hits? Remember many programs dont count 1st page or dont base their ratios on 1st page.
              at the risk of speaking incorrectly for V_Rocks, I believe he mentioned before that he keeps track of all of his own stats/ratios independently of what the sponsors themselves claim, so he is actually tracking hits sent to sponsors the same for all sponsors

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              • CarlosTheGaucho
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2005
                • 9559

                #8
                with NaughtyAmerica you have the ref

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                • JustDaveXxx
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                  • Feb 2005
                  • 4111

                  #9
                  Good stuff. Thanx for sharing.


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                  • Niktamer
                    Lord of the Leads
                    • May 2005
                    • 3021

                    #10
                    Originally posted by d-null
                    at the risk of speaking incorrectly for V_Rocks, I believe he mentioned before that he keeps track of all of his own stats/ratios independently of what the sponsors themselves claim, so he is actually tracking hits sent to sponsors the same for all sponsors
                    smart move .. lots of work

                    wish i could take the time to do this.

                    its so different from one to another.

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                    • V_RocKs
                      Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 32449

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CarlosTheGaucho
                      with NaughtyAmerica you have the ref

                      http://incredibledollars.com/track/MjE2OjIwOjE0/
                      Sure about that?

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                      • V_RocKs
                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 32449

                        #12
                        Originally posted by VIPimp
                        Are you sure the ratios are all based on 1st page hits? Remember many programs dont count 1st page or dont base their ratios on 1st page.
                        These stats are from Stats Remote.

                        I don't have time to break down this many programs stats any other way... Project took 30 minutes... Didn't want to make it an all day thing.

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                        • doridori
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 2222

                          #13
                          Lightspeed Cash 0:5042

                          lol!

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                          • Dirty D
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2002
                            • 4044

                            #14
                            Interesting stats.

                            Hope you add our unique sites and add another revenue stream

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                            • CarlosTheGaucho
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 9559

                              #15
                              Originally posted by V_RocKs
                              Sure about that?
                              Yep, as far as my browser says.
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                              • TeenSluts
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 1966

                                #16
                                cool stuff

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                                • Agent 488
                                  Registered User
                                  • Feb 2006
                                  • 22511

                                  #17
                                  interesting. what's "Daring Press"?

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                                  • bdld
                                    $100,000
                                    • Dec 2001
                                    • 11452

                                    #18
                                    thanks for sharing, always nice to see if im getting similar numbers. ive been meaning to do this but figured it would take too much time to compile.

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                                    • Nicky
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 30071

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by budsbabes
                                      interesting. what's "Daring Press"?
                                      guy behind darering.com and sellyoursextape.com good clean amateur sites that convert. Fucking shame he has no webmaster ref payout LOL I have pointed for sure 10+ people his way

                                      gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                      • Agent 488
                                        Registered User
                                        • Feb 2006
                                        • 22511

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Nicky
                                        guy behind darering.com and sellyoursextape.com good clean amateur sites that convert. Fucking shame he has no webmaster ref payout LOL I have pointed for sure 10+ people his way

                                        ah . thanks.

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                                        • Kard63
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2003
                                          • 8944

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                          Just saw XXXJay's stats and decided to release my own. What can I say? XXXJay has been an inspiration of mine ever since I first found his site and wondered how the fucker was making money.

                                          Stats 2008
                                          Thank you for the stats. I think I'll make some changes (or at least try some things) based on them. I remember reading some threads about companies reporting stats differently to hide their shitty numbers. Specifically I remember someone saying Lightspeed uses the number of people from the 2nd page of the tour when everyone else uses the 1st page of the tour. I didn't pay any attention at the time because Juggcash made life easy and I liked their porn. I'm looking to expand now. My question is, do all of these companies you have listed use the same measurables? Are they all from the first page of the tour or the last page of the tour? Google Analytics defines a returning surfer unique if they have been gone 30 minutes. I think Extreme Tracker goes by a 24 hour period based on the Central time zone. Do all of these companies interpret these numbers the same? (I went back to read some responses in your thread just now before posting. Stats Remote just takes the numbers from the sponsor right? It would make all things equal, correct? Does a list of the inconsistencies exist? That could be a fun project)

                                          Even if they don't you've certainly provided a very good view of your statistics from many angles. It will still provide me with a good idea of what to test.

                                          I troll this forum looking for someone writing about a topic relevant to me and who isn't writing something fucking stupid. That is an incredibly hard combination to come by here... If you have some hidden agenda and posted this for selfish purposes you have fooled me. It looks genuinely helpful. Thanks.

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                                          • V_RocKs
                                            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                            • Nov 2003
                                            • 32449

                                            #22
                                            Dare Ring.

                                            Strange how no program born pre 2003 did this a long fucking time ago.

                                            Especially Light Speed.

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                                            • d-null
                                              . . .
                                              • Apr 2007
                                              • 13724

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Kard63

                                              I troll this forum looking for someone writing about a topic relevant to me and who isn't writing something fucking stupid. That is an incredibly hard combination to come by here... If you have some hidden agenda and posted this for selfish purposes you have fooled me. It looks genuinely helpful. Thanks.
                                              V_Rocks is consistently one of the best posters on this forum

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                                              • SomeCreep
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                                                • Mar 2003
                                                • 26118

                                                #24
                                                good stuff

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                                                • V_RocKs
                                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                  • 32449

                                                  #25
                                                  One of the things you might look at is pay per click. Most of my non SEO traffic is teen traffic and much of the SEO is also teen traffic and many of these programs are revshare...

                                                  So programs with a good pay per click and are in the top ten would be a no-brainer.

                                                  Meat Cash is almost all rebills. So it is unfairly showing a high pay per click. And those tapered off SHARPLY in the last 2 months due to sites not updating any where near as much as they did pre-hahaha. But then again, I think they sold to hahaha because they weren't going to have money to update or something... Because it seems that problem actually started months before hahaha bought it.

                                                  Also, PPS programs with a PPC of .04+ are actually good. It is the rebills from revshare that boost the ones above that.
                                                  Last edited by V_RocKs; 01-26-2009, 03:48 PM.

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                                                  • Kard63
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                    • 8944

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                    Also, PPS programs with a PPC of .04+ are actually good. It is the rebills from revshare that boost the ones above that.
                                                    Why do you mix ppc and revshare on the same sponsor? Is it because you have very different traffic sources for that sponsor? What do you chose for your SE traffic?

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                                                    • JD
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                      • 22651

                                                      #27
                                                      OT: do you write your own posts or have a writer?

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                                                      • Joe BrainCash
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2006
                                                        • 2092

                                                        #28
                                                        Thanks V-Rock for promoting us in the first place. The fact that you're happy with your results and the crazy rebills you mentionned makes my day.
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                                                        • VIPimp
                                                          Marina WILL have my babies!
                                                          • May 2003
                                                          • 9234

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                          These stats are from Stats Remote.

                                                          I don't have time to break down this many programs stats any other way... Project took 30 minutes... Didn't want to make it an all day thing.
                                                          Yea I think for many then you are seeing join page ratios as stats remote is just picking up the stats they show.
                                                          Probably want to see which sponsors are counting how and mark those, otherwise you can have a really great ratio for a sponsor on there that in reality is worst.

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                                                          • SteveHardeman
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2008
                                                            • 1728

                                                            #30
                                                            Another quality post from V_Rocks. Disappointed my program isn't on the list but hey, it appears you're quite busy. :-) Hope 2009 does great for you.

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                                                            • munki
                                                              Do Fun Shit.
                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                              • 13393

                                                              #31
                                                              Good show dood...

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                                                              • Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE

                                                                #32
                                                                Nice stats man!

                                                                We need more webmasters doing something like this.

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                                                                • donnylong
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                                  • 2164

                                                                  #33
                                                                  well vrocks I must say even though you can be a dick I knew you owned a ton of sites but becaue of this post i give you credit for being pretty smart! Good job!
                                                                  0:21609 thats wild hahahaha wont be sending traffic there way so thanks for the stats, i will for sure be comparing this to jay's stats and keeping it in mind!
                                                                  Now Flame away

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                                                                  • Kellie
                                                                    Cherry Pimps
                                                                    • Aug 2005
                                                                    • 1198

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Thanks for the mention

                                                                    And I think Gigi is amazing as well! Naughty 'lil teen ;)



                                                                    Last edited by Kellie; 01-26-2009, 06:41 PM.


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                                                                    • Thurbs
                                                                      The Thrilla in Manila
                                                                      • Sep 2004
                                                                      • 4785

                                                                      #35
                                                                      nice stats V - new sleep assault stuff was put up, new ones coming later this week

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                                                                      • Iron Fist
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Dec 2006
                                                                        • 23400

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Well I think i'll get my stats page ready as well for 2008... looks good and mine compare similar to yours V..
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                                                                        • Kron
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                                          • 1668

                                                                          #37
                                                                          very nice, thanks
                                                                          I dont exchange money!

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                                                                          • DamageX
                                                                            Marketing & Strategy
                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                            • 14293

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                            Rage Cash with hahaha doing better than before he bought it?

                                                                            ... and everyone is complaining how hahaha destroys the programs he buys
                                                                            He does.
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                                                                            • fuzebox
                                                                              making it rain
                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                              • 22352

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                              Rage Cash with hahaha doing better than before he bought it?

                                                                              ... and everyone is complaining how hahaha destroys the programs he buys
                                                                              Both Rage Cash and Join Right Now started converting 2-3x better for me after being acquired and switched to NATS.
                                                                              Last edited by fuzebox; 01-26-2009, 11:34 PM.

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                                                                              • StaceyJo
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Mar 2008
                                                                                • 8960

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Good stuff.
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                                                                                • Matyko
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                                                                                  • Aug 2005
                                                                                  • 8681

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by SteveHardeman
                                                                                  Another quality post from V_Rocks. Disappointed my program isn't on the list but hey, it appears you're quite busy. :-) Hope 2009 does great for you.
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                                                                                  • Daddy Big Nuts
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                                    • 1080

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Thanks for the info! Newbies like us need all the help that we can get seeing who's doing things right and not so right

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                                                                                    • Agent 488
                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                                                      • 22511

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                      Both Rage Cash and Join Right Now started converting 2-3x better for me after being acquired and switched to NATS.
                                                                                      same with the one epic cash site i promote - but i think it's just due to nats and sales actually being tracked.

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                                                                                      • Reak AGV
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Dec 2004
                                                                                        • 4283

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Good to see that RageCash is doing better after hahaha bought it

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                                                                                        • V_RocKs
                                                                                          Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                          • 32449

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Join Right Now... This is a program I tried pushing in 2006. I gave up. I might try it again.

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                                                                                          • Mutt
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                                            • 34431

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            you promote teen solo girls and i see no stats for Dawson Miller
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                                                                                            • Snake Doctor
                                                                                              I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                              • Mar 2001
                                                                                              • 13449

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Props to V_Rocks for doing this....the only thing that sucks with these types of things is that sponsors who only count 2nd, 3rd, or join page hits get moved to the top.
                                                                                              This is why those sponsors do that, and it kind of sucks that they get rewarded for their shady-ness.
                                                                                              sig too big

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                                                                                              • tranza
                                                                                                ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                • 57559

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Thanks for sharing!
                                                                                                I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                                • V_RocKs
                                                                                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                  • 32449

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                                                                                  Props to V_Rocks for doing this....the only thing that sucks with these types of things is that sponsors who only count 2nd, 3rd, or join page hits get moved to the top.
                                                                                                  This is why those sponsors do that, and it kind of sucks that they get rewarded for their shady-ness.
                                                                                                  To address that statement.

                                                                                                  For the most part 95% of my sponsors use MPA/NATS/CCBILL stats. Yes the CCBILL's will be higher because they track everything...

                                                                                                  But when you look at those numbers and you look at how much traffic I throw at the sponsors I can say, "Hmm.. Top Bucks and Naughty America are lower because they don't convert my traffic as well as the others do."

                                                                                                  Looking at my traffic I can say things like:

                                                                                                  Fuck You Cash should have converted better and I should have made more for the traffic. Primarily it is for 18yearsold.com and I often thought about sending the traffic to Pure18.com or a Teen Revenue all access pass page. But then Teen Revenue is one of those sponsors that doesn't count all of the clicks.

                                                                                                  Between Rage Cash and Fuck You Cash the difference in money is over double in RC's favor. With less traffic. Both programs use NATS.

                                                                                                  TCG and TR both use the 2nd page hits scheme. 12% difference in amount of traffic sent to both programs in TR's favor. 360% more money in TR's favor. 450% more signups though they cost less... But with rebills at 67% they blow away most PPS programs.

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                                                                                                  • Spankys Teens
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • May 2005
                                                                                                    • 1414

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    thanks for the share- u r one of the most interesting guys out here always helping out

                                                                                                    i respect you a lot....
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