Just reading the book "Watch you bleed" about Guns n Roses - GoFuckYourself.com

CarlosTheGaucho · 01-24-2009, 07:34 PM

By Stephen Davis who did well with Led Zepellin so I bought this one too.

So far I'm on page 165 and it's "Apetite for Destruction" recorded, and it seems they really were something close to what I always thought they were, sometimes it's hard to figure out truth from myth but I guess it's more truth than myth in this book.

I mean I love their music, and they were one hell of an exciting act, it's a part of my upbringing and great memories, but I always thought many of the original members were fucked up in severe ways.

Did you know the super praised "Sweet Child o Mine" riff was originally meant as a joke? I believe that.

My props to Duff and Izzy, I always had a good feeling about those guys, Duff to be musical, Izzy to be musical and smart.

Geffen had serious concerns if they survive the original recording contract, I don't have doubt about this either.

Anyway, fuck I would so love to see them live in their early club years in Whisky A Go Go or Troubadour.

Ain't a bad read, I do recommend.

TeenSluts · 01-24-2009, 07:49 PM

have you listened to the new album? I'm not feeling it too much

tony286 · 01-24-2009, 07:49 PM

sounds like a interesting book. I know Slashs book got good reviews.

CarlosTheGaucho · 01-24-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenSluts

have you listened to the new album? I'm not feeling it too much

I haven't, I don't think I will anytime soon, you don't want to spoil your feel about a great band.

It's the same thing like I am a huge fan of Red Hot Chilli Peppers when they were crazy through the 80's and early 90's and then they came with Californication which was a slight dissapointment, although still completely understandable if you knew some background about the record, but after that I never listened to any of their later albums cause they completely changed direction.

Great band at its time, but not producing a music I would want them to associate with.

It's like if you compared the original Fleetwood Mac with the 80's Fleetwood Mac, just no comparsion, nothing to compare.

dropped9 · 01-24-2009, 08:25 PM

I read slash's book. Was a great read. I might have to pick this one up...

CarlosTheGaucho · 01-24-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Headless

I read slash's book. Was a great read. I might have to pick this one up...

Yeah, could be interesting to compare.

Davis is really a master of putting together a whole lot of information from different sources, lots of the stuff just sounds like bragging, but I guess they really were fucked up and off the hook.

Grapesoda · 01-24-2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

Yeah, could be interesting to compare.

Davis is really a master of putting together a whole lot of information from different sources, lots of the stuff just sounds like bragging, but I guess they really were fucked up and off the hook.

it's only bragging if ya can't do it.

CarlosTheGaucho · 01-24-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

it's only bragging if ya can't do it.

and I can't imagine anyone who couldn't do it more then them

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-24-2009, 09:03 PM

Kinda weird how music works though. The dumbest riff's sometimes end up being the best ones.

I heard DImebag Darrel talkin about some of Pantera's Riff's in an interview and he basically said he never thought for a minute that these meaningless riff's of Panetera would ever be what they became and the solo's were all made for the show.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-24-2009, 09:07 PM

James Hetfield has said the near same thing and has expressed alot of anger with Lars and Hammet that they tend to bungle up the simplicity and over complicate riffs in the creative process.

Personally I think James is right. It's pretty appearent in the new Album that James got his way for simplified riffs. But maybe to much so LOL

Bojangles · 01-24-2009, 09:34 PM

I will have to check that out.

CarlosTheGaucho · 01-25-2009, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Kinda weird how music works though. The dumbest riff's sometimes end up being the best ones.

I heard DImebag Darrel talkin about some of Pantera's Riff's in an interview and he basically said he never thought for a minute that these meaningless riff's of Panetera would ever be what they became and the solo's were all made for the show.

Yeah I remember many times we were just jammin in Garage, drinking beer then someone came with some weird bullshit riff and I guess my buddy's band plays it till today (they have a record deal in place).

I guess it's no different no matter what level you play.

CarlosTheGaucho · 01-26-2009, 05:51 PM

just listening to their shit and it's inevitable nostalgy

Joe BrainCash · 01-26-2009, 06:25 PM

i'm currently reading Mick Wall's unauthorized biography of Axl. So far, so good.

I didn't know which one to choose from since many books were writen recently about Axl and GNR. I have already slash's, and a bad GNR bio from a couple of years back but needed more info to have a better idea for myself...

Why I chose Mick Wall ( W.A.R.: The Unauthorized Biography of William Axl Rose par Mick Wall) is simple: He's mentionned in the song Get in the ring ( mick wall at Kerrang! you frustrated cause your daddy gets more pussy than you. fuck you, suck my fucking dick...)

But I'm not yet half way through

bronco67 · 01-26-2009, 06:45 PM

Let me guess....

There's some sex and some drugs involved.

SilentKnight · 01-26-2009, 07:27 PM

Only heard two tracks of Chinese Democracy so far - not impressed how they fucked around with Axl's vocals. At times it doesn't even sound like his voice.

I could've waited another 20 years if this was the best they could offer.

Loved their old stuff.

CarlosTheGaucho · 01-27-2009, 07:22 AM

I've read some reviews at Amazon, the ultraorthodox fans are slamming the book, I don't think it's nearly that bad, would say it's actually pretty decent so far and Davis did a good job.

There's not that many bands that would get so super orthodox super die hard fans following (kinda like Nirvana) and I guess it's them writing shit.

american pervert · 01-27-2009, 07:27 AM

i read slash's book and thats pretty good.. also read nikki sixx's book and its interesting since they had guns go with them on tour and both slash and nikki talk about some of the same stories....

CarlosTheGaucho · 02-15-2009, 04:03 PM

I finished the book last week,

What's quite interesting and explains a lot is that practically all the people that had any say around Guns n Roses had to sign some form of a complicated NDA so you couldn't just come and make a brand new interview, so it doesn't have many citations or exclusive interviews in it.

I'm quite confident they'll never reunite though after I read the history in this - plain impossible.

CarlosTheGaucho · 02-15-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainPat

i'm currently reading Mick Wall's unauthorized biography of Axl. So far, so good.

I guess Axl might as well be the most popular lunatic with cult status on this planet.

The guy really has serious issues.

Joe BrainCash · 02-15-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

I guess Axl might as well be the most popular lunatic with cult status on this planet.

The guy really has serious issues.

The more you get to know about Axl, the more you realise how manipulative and egocentric maniac he can be. Really hard to work with.

Chinese Democraty is ok but no where near Appetite or even Use Your illusions, so it only proves it wasn't a one man band.

What makes him so interesting then? It's the "danger" factor. You never know what to expect when he's involved in something. Kind of like what Mike Tyson was to boxing. You should hear how Lars Ulrich describes exactly that. Actually interesting. But Axl alone? He's just a small town white boy abused by his dad insecure piece of shit.

Smokieflame · 02-15-2009, 07:49 PM

i have not heard the new album yet. it is not good =( well i sad now

chelis · 02-15-2009, 08:41 PM

The new album has nothing to do with any of GN'r previous albums. The most we'll ever see of the original formation I think it's Velvet Revolver. I liked both their albums, it was very nice to hear Slash and Duff together again.

01-24-2009, 07:34 PM	#1
CarlosTheGaucho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,516	Just reading the book "Watch you bleed" about Guns n Roses By Stephen Davis who did well with Led Zepellin so I bought this one too. So far I'm on page 165 and it's "Apetite for Destruction" recorded, and it seems they really were something close to what I always thought they were, sometimes it's hard to figure out truth from myth but I guess it's more truth than myth in this book. I mean I love their music, and they were one hell of an exciting act, it's a part of my upbringing and great memories, but I always thought many of the original members were fucked up in severe ways. Did you know the super praised "Sweet Child o Mine" riff was originally meant as a joke? I believe that. My props to Duff and Izzy, I always had a good feeling about those guys, Duff to be musical, Izzy to be musical and smart. Geffen had serious concerns if they survive the original recording contract, I don't have doubt about this either. Anyway, fuck I would so love to see them live in their early club years in Whisky A Go Go or Troubadour. Ain't a bad read, I do recommend. __________________ CTG Media \| TG: carl_boro \| cb \|at\| ctgmedia \|dot\| net \| Read My Educational Series \| Read my Adult Biz Chronicles\| Last edited by CarlosTheGaucho; 01-24-2009 at 07:36 PM..

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Kinda weird how music works though. The dumbest riff's sometimes end up being the best ones. I heard DImebag Darrel talkin about some of Pantera's Riff's in an interview and he basically said he never thought for a minute that these meaningless riff's of Panetera would ever be what they became and the solo's were all made for the show. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	James Hetfield has said the near same thing and has expressed alot of anger with Lars and Hammet that they tend to bungle up the simplicity and over complicate riffs in the creative process. Personally I think James is right. It's pretty appearent in the new Album that James got his way for simplified riffs. But maybe to much so LOL __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

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CarlosTheGaucho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,516	just listening to their shit and it's inevitable nostalgy __________________ CTG Media \| TG: carl_boro \| cb \|at\| ctgmedia \|dot\| net \| Read My Educational Series \| Read my Adult Biz Chronicles\|

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Joe BrainCash Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Boy, life is difficult... Posts: 2,092	i'm currently reading Mick Wall's unauthorized biography of Axl. So far, so good. I didn't know which one to choose from since many books were writen recently about Axl and GNR. I have already slash's, and a bad GNR bio from a couple of years back but needed more info to have a better idea for myself... Why I chose Mick Wall ( W.A.R.: The Unauthorized Biography of William Axl Rose par Mick Wall) is simple: He's mentionned in the song Get in the ring ( mick wall at Kerrang! you frustrated cause your daddy gets more pussy than you. fuck you, suck my fucking dick...) But I'm not yet half way through __________________ [email protected] ICQ: 394.549.466 Last edited by Joe BrainCash; 01-26-2009 at 06:27 PM..

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TeenSluts Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,966	have you listened to the new album? I'm not feeling it too much

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	sounds like a interesting book. I know Slashs book got good reviews.

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dropped9 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Your moms box Posts: 26,727	I read slash's book. Was a great read. I might have to pick this one up...

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Bojangles Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,419	I will have to check that out.

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bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,032	Let me guess.... There's some sex and some drugs involved. __________________

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SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	Only heard two tracks of Chinese Democracy so far - not impressed how they fucked around with Axl's vocals. At times it doesn't even sound like his voice. I could've waited another 20 years if this was the best they could offer. Loved their old stuff.

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CarlosTheGaucho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,516	I've read some reviews at Amazon, the ultraorthodox fans are slamming the book, I don't think it's nearly that bad, would say it's actually pretty decent so far and Davis did a good job. There's not that many bands that would get so super orthodox super die hard fans following (kinda like Nirvana) and I guess it's them writing shit. __________________ CTG Media \| TG: carl_boro \| cb \|at\| ctgmedia \|dot\| net \| Read My Educational Series \| Read my Adult Biz Chronicles\|

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american pervert Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,830	i read slash's book and thats pretty good.. also read nikki sixx's book and its interesting since they had guns go with them on tour and both slash and nikki talk about some of the same stories.... __________________ I can resist everything except temptation

02-15-2009, 04:03 PM	#19
CarlosTheGaucho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,516	I finished the book last week, What's quite interesting and explains a lot is that practically all the people that had any say around Guns n Roses had to sign some form of a complicated NDA so you couldn't just come and make a brand new interview, so it doesn't have many citations or exclusive interviews in it. I'm quite confident they'll never reunite though after I read the history in this - plain impossible. __________________ CTG Media \| TG: carl_boro \| cb \|at\| ctgmedia \|dot\| net \| Read My Educational Series \| Read my Adult Biz Chronicles\|

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Smokieflame Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 596	i have not heard the new album yet. it is not good =( well i sad now

02-15-2009, 08:41 PM	#23
chelis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montevideo Posts: 620	The new album has nothing to do with any of GN'r previous albums. The most we'll ever see of the original formation I think it's Velvet Revolver. I liked both their albums, it was very nice to hear Slash and Duff together again. Last edited by chelis; 02-15-2009 at 08:44 PM..