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  • Elli
    Reach for those stars!
    • Apr 2003
    • 17991

    #1

    SCAM ALERT: Did you stay at the Palms for Internext?

    I just checked my credit card statement for Dec/Jan and apparently the day before I left Las Vegas, someone used my Visa card to buy something worth 13,000 Yuan ($2400Cdn) from a shopping mall in China. Imagine that! I've never even been to China!

    I *only* used my card in Vegas for the hotel room, nothing else, not even an ATM machine or a taxi. So that leaves the hotel staff a little suspect.

    Unless my card number was ripped before that and that's just the first scam charge that showed up.

    Argh!

    Anyhoo, I just got off the phone with Visa and apparently they're asking for an invoice for the item, whatever it was. Then they send me paperwork to sign saying I disallow the charge, THEN they might remove the charge for whatever it is.

    Goddamn fucking hell.
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  • CybermedAndy
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2004
    • 4170

    #2
    My VISA gets "used" in China once a year or so.. pain in the ass gotta have new one done up everytime

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    • RyuLion
      • Mar 2003
      • 32369

      #3
      oh wow..
      good thing you were always sober..

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      • JamesK
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        • Jun 2002
        • 16731

        #4
        that's why I hate credit cards
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          • WiredGuy
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            • Aug 2002
            • 34512

            #6
            I've gone thru this with visa about once per year, mostly because my credit card gets hit so many times from media buys. Every time they will refund your money. They'll send you a document declaring that you did not buy the above mentioned items. You sign it, send it back and you'll get your money back. It actually couldn't be easier. No wonder people chargeback so often.
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            • Elli
              Reach for those stars!
              • Apr 2003
              • 17991

              #7
              Originally posted by WiredGuy
              I've gone thru this with visa about once per year, mostly because my credit card gets hit so many times from media buys. Every time they will refund your money. They'll send you a document declaring that you did not buy the above mentioned items. You sign it, send it back and you'll get your money back. It actually couldn't be easier. No wonder people chargeback so often.
              WG
              That's a relief. What about any interest that may accrue over that time?
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              • Si
                Such Fun!
                • Feb 2008
                • 13900

                #8
                i've had that before, not from the palms though.

                Fucking Scammers!

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                • Phoenix
                  BACON BACON BACON
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 35475

                  #9
                  you know what.....my mastercard was cancelled by mastercard and they sent me a new one.

                  they said somewhere i used it was stealing creditcards....it was right after vegas...i think i only used that card for a few meals...ill have to figure out where now
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                  • lesbodojo
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                    • Sep 2003
                    • 2839

                    #10
                    Eek. I'm so sorry that happened to you.
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                    • Domain Diva
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                      • Oct 2007
                      • 10180

                      #11
                      Credit card skimming/hacking seems to be reaching epidemic levels in general, I wonder if this was any ripple effect on surfers thinking twice about using thier cards online especially when it comes to porn ?

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                      • Supz
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                        • Jul 2006
                        • 11057

                        #12
                        might have to do with this article.

                        http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/41126/118/ :-)

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                        • Elli
                          Reach for those stars!
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 17991

                          #13
                          Originally posted by supzdotcom
                          might have to do with this article.

                          http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/41126/118/ :-)
                          You know, I saw that item on the news yesterday and thought, "Elli, you should double check your statements." Hm!
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                          • webgurl
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 7954

                            #14
                            Also there was a huge Credit Card Leak (US) i read articles about it
                            one sec http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...h.html?ref=rss
                            and http://www.theprovince.com/story_pri...02612&sponsor=
                            Do google search this happened recently and tons of cards got nabbed

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                            • Phil
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 7659

                              #15
                              I had my credit card cloned in Fortalesa, Brazil once and someone bought 2800 worth of stff in electronics store. had it charged back in 2 weeks.
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                              • Robbie
                                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 20960

                                #16
                                Guys, don't y'all know that nobody in the world does what you are describing except for us porn sites doing x-sells?
                                All these links are nice: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/41126/118/
                                http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...h.html?ref=rss

                                But I just have to totally disregard the news organizations and go with the experts here on GFY. It was probably just I$ or hahaha x-selling you.
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                                • HAPPYPEEKERS
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 7566

                                  #17
                                  That sucks to hear girl.. Good luck getting it all worked out
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                                  • Rangermoore
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                                    • Jan 2009
                                    • 1541

                                    #18
                                    That sucks....Good luck!

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                                    • Zorgman
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 6103

                                      #19
                                      I don't know why the credit companies don't put a 2nd pin to verify the purchase on a credit card - not the pin you use to withdraw from the ATM. If I find a credit card I can purchase stuff with it, but without a security pin it would be harder to purchase online.

                                      Might stop lots of fraud.
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                                      • Spunky
                                        I need a beer
                                        • Jun 2002
                                        • 133986

                                        #20
                                        I heard about that..checking the Visa statement now

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                                        • webgurl
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 7954

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Zorgman
                                          I don't know why the credit companies don't put a 2nd pin to verify the purchase on a credit card - not the pin you use to withdraw from the ATM. If I find a credit card I can purchase stuff with it, but without a security pin it would be harder to purchase online.

                                          Might stop lots of fraud.
                                          The new USD mastercard i got has PIN # now but the stupid thing
                                          is u can still use it as option to just use i regular the PIN # is not mandatory

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                                          • Rochard
                                            Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                            • Dec 2001
                                            • 75733

                                            #22
                                            I watch my bank account like a hawk and only once have I caught anything - when my waiter at the pizza place decided to add in his own tip. If someone snagged my card and used it for something in China I'd be pissed.
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                                            • D Ghost
                                              null
                                              • May 2006
                                              • 9820

                                              #23
                                              always gotta watch your accounts...

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                                              • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                                                • Jul 2004
                                                • 38323

                                                #24
                                                Sorry to hear about what happened to you.

                                                My cards are set-up to disallow charges over a set amount, without a verbal confirmation from me (basically I have to call-in, answer some questions only I would know the answer to, and authorize the charge).

                                                I also manage my card accounts closely, keeping in these accounts only about 20% more than I plan to use during a given period. I only move the money over from an account that I don't have a card for, as I need to.

                                                I pay extra in service charges by having multiple accounts at several banks, but service charges are tax deductible, and it substantially minimizes my exposure to scammers.

                                                The same with PayPal. I only keep in there 10-20% more than I have a plan to spend, and then only move in new money as necessary.

                                                Some good tips in this thread...

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                                                • WiredGuy
                                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 34512

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Elli
                                                  That's a relief. What about any interest that may accrue over that time?
                                                  They should credit your account the day you make the call to them to contest the charges. They'll take it on good faith you'll sign that document and return it, if you don't then i assume they'll put the charge back on, but you shouldn't be charged any interest. You will lose on foreign exchange though when they credit your account as the FX rates always work against you.
                                                  WG
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                                                  • WiredGuy
                                                    Pounding Googlebot
                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                    • 34512

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Robbie
                                                    Guys, don't y'all know that nobody in the world does what you are describing except for us porn sites doing x-sells?
                                                    All these links are nice: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/41126/118/
                                                    http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...h.html?ref=rss

                                                    But I just have to totally disregard the news organizations and go with the experts here on GFY. It was probably just I$ or hahaha x-selling you.

                                                    I can really see Elli buying porn from I$.
                                                    WG
                                                    I play with Google.

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                                                    • Barefootsies
                                                      Choice is an Illusion
                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                      • 42635

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                      You sign it, send it back and you'll get your money back. It actually couldn't be easier. No wonder people chargeback so often.
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                                                      • Zorgman
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                        • 6103

                                                        #28
                                                        What I do is have 2 accounts, one is a regular account with no visa/credit card and the other one is a visa depit card -- same bank and use online banking. When I travel I transfer from one account to the other. So even if someone does use my card, it's very little and because it's debit it's limited the amount in that account.
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                                                        • Robbie
                                                          Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                          • 20960

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                          I can really see Elli buying porn from I$.
                                                          WG
                                                          I was just joking. A few weeks ago it was everybody who ever had an unknown charge on their card pointing the finger at I$. Now it turns out that...oh my gosh....there are plenty of credit card hackers out there.
                                                          -Robbie
                                                          ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                          • Phoenix
                                                            BACON BACON BACON
                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                            • 35475

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Zorgman
                                                            I don't know why the credit companies don't put a 2nd pin to verify the purchase on a credit card - not the pin you use to withdraw from the ATM. If I find a credit card I can purchase stuff with it, but without a security pin it would be harder to purchase online.

                                                            Might stop lots of fraud.
                                                            mastercard has a password feature to purchase online...but not on all sites.....not all cards either probably
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                                                            • jimmy-3-way
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                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                              • 3861

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                              I can really see Elli buying porn from I$.
                                                              WG
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                                                              • crockett
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                                                                • May 2003
                                                                • 76818

                                                                #32
                                                                You must not have unchecked the Chinese Shanghai upgrade..
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                                                                • Ace_luffy
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                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                  • 12163

                                                                  #33
                                                                  that's a lot of money....

                                                                  damn


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                                                                  • Domain Diva
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Oct 2007
                                                                    • 10180

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Wal-Mart billed me for the same transaction twice ($56) it was easy to spot on my statement but serves as a reminder even without your card getting hacked to always check for mistakes .

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                                                                    • dotcommer
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Sep 2006
                                                                      • 312

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Thanks for the heads up. I will check my statements.

                                                                      3 years ago after the Internext show in Florida I got a call from AMEX asking me if I had my card in my possession. I was already back home and I had my card with me. They said that someone was at a Jewelry store in Florida and had a physical card with them that had my number on it while I was talking with them on the phone.

                                                                      They said they would handle it, Not sure if they arrested the idiot.

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                                                                      • ExLust
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                                                                        • 3223

                                                                        #36
                                                                        That was not good.

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                                                                        • Elli
                                                                          Reach for those stars!
                                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                                          • 17991

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                                                          You must not have unchecked the Chinese Shanghai upgrade..
                                                                          Actually the transaction info said Beijing. ;)
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                                                                          • Elli
                                                                            Reach for those stars!
                                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                                            • 17991

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                            They should credit your account the day you make the call to them to contest the charges. They'll take it on good faith you'll sign that document and return it, if you don't then i assume they'll put the charge back on, but you shouldn't be charged any interest. You will lose on foreign exchange though when they credit your account as the FX rates always work against you.
                                                                            WG
                                                                            Ahhh ok, that's good then. Except for the foreign exchange. If the transaction isn't mine, NONE of it should stay on my account.
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                                                                            • Elli
                                                                              Reach for those stars!
                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                              • 17991

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                                              Sorry to hear about what happened to you.

                                                                              My cards are set-up to disallow charges over a set amount, without a verbal confirmation from me (basically I have to call-in, answer some questions only I would know the answer to, and authorize the charge).

                                                                              I also manage my card accounts closely, keeping in these accounts only about 20% more than I plan to use during a given period. I only move the money over from an account that I don't have a card for, as I need to.

                                                                              I pay extra in service charges by having multiple accounts at several banks, but service charges are tax deductible, and it substantially minimizes my exposure to scammers.

                                                                              The same with PayPal. I only keep in there 10-20% more than I have a plan to spend, and then only move in new money as necessary.

                                                                              Some good tips in this thread...

                                                                              ADG
                                                                              Service charges are tax deductible? Now that's something I have to ask my accountant about!
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                                                                              • Phil
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                                • 7659

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                You will lose on foreign exchange though when they credit your account as the FX rates always work against you.
                                                                                WG
                                                                                No. against he law.
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                                                                                • WiredGuy
                                                                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                  • 34512

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by CAMOKAT
                                                                                  No. against he law.
                                                                                  Tell that to my bank, it was marginally different, less than $1 difference.
                                                                                  WG
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                                                                                  • Axzar
                                                                                    Random Jackass
                                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                                    • 1837

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Zorgman
                                                                                    I don't know why the credit companies don't put a 2nd pin to verify the purchase on a credit card - not the pin you use to withdraw from the ATM. If I find a credit card I can purchase stuff with it, but without a security pin it would be harder to purchase online.

                                                                                    Might stop lots of fraud.
                                                                                    Sure, the card companies need let you pick a pin before the card leaves their facilities. This way it is useless if it gets stolen in the mail.

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                                                                                    • The Duck
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                                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                                      • 18243

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      They really need to rework the credit card system a bit.
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                                                                                      • pamon
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Dec 2007
                                                                                        • 3113

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        restaurants, bars, and hotels are notorious for cc fraud rings. sorry about the incident.
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                                                                                        • sexandcash
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                                                                                          • Nov 2008
                                                                                          • 1566

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Elli
                                                                                          I just checked my credit card statement for Dec/Jan and apparently the day before I left Las Vegas, someone used my Visa card to buy something worth 13,000 Yuan ($2400Cdn) from a shopping mall in China. Imagine that! I've never even been to China!

                                                                                          I *only* used my card in Vegas for the hotel room, nothing else, not even an ATM machine or a taxi. So that leaves the hotel staff a little suspect.

                                                                                          Unless my card number was ripped before that and that's just the first scam charge that showed up.

                                                                                          Argh!

                                                                                          Anyhoo, I just got off the phone with Visa and apparently they're asking for an invoice for the item, whatever it was. Then they send me paperwork to sign saying I disallow the charge, THEN they might remove the charge for whatever it is.

                                                                                          Goddamn fucking hell.

                                                                                          FUCKKKKK!!!! I am so sorry to hear that... I really hope you get this cc fraud sorted out and that you don't have to pay any other charges
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                                                                                          • papill0n
                                                                                            Unregistered Abuser
                                                                                            • Oct 2007
                                                                                            • 15547

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            credit card fraud is such a pain in the arse

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                                                                                            • Matyko
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                                                                                              • Aug 2005
                                                                                              • 8681

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I hope this gets resolved asap and you'll get your money back.
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