Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 15378956)

let use robbie's site as an example

suppose i wrote a program that virtualized the video card and did a bit by bit copy of that data to file.
I now have a shareable version of his encrypted stream video

i setup a torrent site to service all the people that "Robbie refuses to sell too"


before i let them access the torrent i put some kind of declartion that they don't want to buy his content under his streaming only rules.

That could be a person who got suckered into buying because he doesn't clearly specify on his tour that it is streaming only all the way to the people who simply want to have the right to watch the movie they bought a viewing right after their membership is cancelled (timeshifting)

The explictly declare they are not potential or actual customers.
Now the act of providing the functionality is not an infringement (rule 4 of the fair use doctrine)

i have not change the value of your copyright material ergo it falls under the fair use exemption ergo no copyright infringement

Unless you get one of those people to admit the lied and were in fact replacing a membership they would have bought with the free offer of content i am providing.

if you do, then i send them to jail for committing fraud, since i set my system to provide only to those outside the scope of your delivery of copyrighted material.

This is a bit of an abuse of ruling, equating regionality restrictions to format restrictions but since you are deliberately denying an established fair use (timeshifting) using the same arguement that the court already ruled was invalid (you only get access at the time, i give you access) i didn't think it that bad.

Odds are it will be use for movies pirated in a region where the content is not distributed
ie (dr who confidential in canada/US).

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15378972)

while i won't necessarily defend its use in court rooms, possibly due to your age group, you may not realize how much wiki is used in colleges across the US every day and has quickly become a resource not just among web lovers, but researchers and now as my article stated, judges and even Homeland Security.

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 15378956)

let use robbie's site as an example

suppose i...blah, blah, blah

The explictly declare they are not potential or actual customers. blah, blah, blah

i have not change the value of your copyright material ergo it falls under the fair use exemption ergo no copyright infringement.blah, blah, blah

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15379038)

This if GREAT news gideon! I have just decided that I was never going to use electricity from the power company! The motherfuckers just stream it and don't let me keep it. I wanted to timeshift it to use later. So I'm going to cancel my "membership" to the electric company and just start taking it for free!

It's fair use all the way baby! I'm next considering to declare that I am not and never will again buy groceries, clothing, cars, my internet connection, cable television....

Edit: After all they aren't losing any revenue since I just "declared" that I'm not gonna buy anything from them. This is genius! Gideongallery you are the best!

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15379025)

Damn...did you just call me old? :1orglaugh

Fuck.

And yeah, I do realize how many people use wiki. I've kinda worked on the internet for the last 12 years or so and even us old geezers try to keep up with what the kids are doing these days. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15379134)

Arent you in the gramma/pa porn niche?

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15379134)

, you said "he uses wiki" as if it has no truth behind it, and is simply not the case and thats all I wrote.

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15379213)

but again, im not here to argue how valid wiki is, i just believe it is more valid than you make it to be.

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15379254)

I dont aim to win, i just share my opinion on the topic like everyone else.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15379261)

just kidding with ya

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15379265)

tis ok Gramps ;-)