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sperbonzo · 01-19-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by collegeboobies

wow whats the deal with download haters

What other content/products do you steal?

just wondering...

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spanky part 2 · 01-19-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bama

Well, you're a step in the right direction but it is more complicated than that.

When you go to the theater you're not writing a check to 20th Century Fox. You're paying to watch the movie on a big screen with Dobly THX surround sound. They, in turn, share a percentage of the receipts with the studios.

I didn't watch it on a big screen so why would I pay the theater for a service they didn't provide to me? Do you cut a monthly check to the theater chains when you don't go to a movie just to ensure the future enjoyment of the movie industry? That's just what you've said I should be doing..

The studio does need to be paid for producing the product and they are paid in the same manner as the theater does - a percentage of the receipts and they are paid by me - every month just like clock work. I even pay them for products they produce that I don't watch.

When I go to a porn site, I am not writing a check to the producer. You have a really amazing brain. It should be studied when you are in jail getting ass raped!

sperbonzo · 01-19-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lester Burnham

My review:

1) Predictable - Hmmm....old white guy lives in the inner city. I wonder how this is going to end?

It's not the inner city, it's an old suburb.

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Originally Posted by Lester Burnham

2) Tired out plot - Hmmmm....white guy comes into a neighborhood where the minorities don't know how to act. He teaches them how to be responsible, pick up girls, read, talk, drive, etc. White guy saves the day!! (replace neighborhood with a school, country, etc., and you have yourself another movie)

The guy didn't come into the neighborhood, he had been living there since the 50's. The minorities had moved into the area over the last 20 years as whites moved out.

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3) Asian people in American "no speaky englissshhh", drive honda civics, raise chickens in their back yards, and don't mow their lawns.

I have spent a lot of time in areas where that is pretty much exactly what happens... Aren't you allowed to portray real circumstances in a movie?

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Originally Posted by Lester Burnham

I enjoyed the movie quite honestly, but it was a little over the top in the stereotypes. We get it, old white guys who drive old vintage cars and have guns are cool...especially when they kick the asses of minorities.

I guess you missed a bunch of the film, like the fact that he was estranged from his own family, and he found himself relating better to the family values of the hmong family than his own kids.

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spanky part 2 · 01-19-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bama

Excellent - now we can have a meaningful discussion. Like I mentioned earlier - show me the error of my ways. I'm a pretty easy going guy and even easier to get along with

I would concede this point if you can (and I'm trying but can't come up with one yet) tell me a blockbuster movie made within the last 3 years that has never been released onto cable television.

Actually, no, it doesn't and in fact strengthens my argument. I tape shows on one day and then watch them the following days using TIVO - a perfectly legal and another service I pay for. The show's that I taped the previous day aren't on the following day but I can still watch it. No one yells "thief" under those circumstances and there isn't a soul among you that sit through the commercials on a taped show but you won't see me yelling "you're depriving the studio's of advertising revenue" at anyone.

I never said they did (though if you check out the movie section of just about any hotel you'll see a "still in theaters" section...

Sure it does and I'll point you back to the Tivo comment above. I'm able to Tivo it and watch it any time I like for as long as I like - free of charge.

So lets assume for a minute that you were brought up on charges and we are standing in front of a judge or a jury. You really think they are going to buy this theory of yours

I can't presume to speak for anyone but I do believe that I have a strong argument but even if they didn't, I would ask that they in turn prove to me monetary damages.[/QUOTE]

I bet your a hoot on a date. "hey watch me put a hair in my food and we can get it for free". I despise people like you. You are the reason that everything goes up in price and why I have to take 5 million twisties off of my kids toys when I buy them. Scumbags like you need to go on your special island and steal off of each other all you want. You deserve each other.

So let's take this to a base level since that's all you seem to understand.

Movie comes out in the theatre. Not a single person goes to see it or buys a dvd because they all downloaded it. None of them wanted to pay for the right to see it on a big screen and didn't want to pay for the dvd.

Just how many movies would be made?

You are a pathetic thief plan and simple.

421Fill · 01-19-2009, 03:22 PM

I saw Gran Torino on saturday and liked it a lot. The ending was a bit of a surprise to me, though I'm sure those out there that will say it was predictable. There was one part that I thought was hokey... one of the lines he used when he confronted the three black dudes hassling his neighbor, but I still laughed when he said it.

Good movie, imo. Worth seeing.

DudeRick · 01-19-2009, 03:54 PM

Kind of a cross between dirty Harry and Archie Bunker...

DWB · 01-19-2009, 05:08 PM

Good movie. Eastwood was great but the supporting actors were not very strong.

As far as bitter old racist men go, he nailed it.

Darkland · 01-19-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bama

Actually, no, it doesn't and in fact strengthens my argument. I tape shows on one day and then watch them the following days using TIVO - a perfectly legal and another service I pay for. The show's that I taped the previous day aren't on the following day but I can still watch it. No one yells "thief" under those circumstances and there isn't a soul among you that sit through the commercials on a taped show but you won't see me yelling "you're depriving the studio's of advertising revenue" at anyone.

Wrong. With the advent of TIVO it is a perfectly exceptable means of watching programs that have been offered to you for your monthly cable subscription. THIS falls under the basis of your argument, NOT the illegally downloading of movies off of torrents or the like.

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Originally Posted by Bama

I never said they did (though if you check out the movie section of just about any hotel you'll see a "still in theaters" section...

Yes... And they are not free and are usually higher in price. Why is it more expensive? Because they are offering you to see it earlier than its DVD release date. You ARE NOT paying a higher price to get carte blanche on it from that day forward. It is a one time transaction.

You think Wal-Mart, any store for that matter, would just let you walk out with a movie and not pay for it because you believe you only have to pay for something once?

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Originally Posted by Bama

Sure it does and I'll point you back to the Tivo comment above. I'm able to Tivo it and watch it any time I like for as long as I like - free of charge.

No it doesn't... See TIVO answer above. If you still have it on TIVO, YES.

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Originally Posted by Bama

I can't presume to speak for anyone but I do believe that I have a strong argument but even if they didn't, I would ask that they in turn prove to me monetary damages.

And now for the coup de grâce. No monetary or possible ramifications? You MUST be joking.

When a movie gets released, someone has already hit on this a bit, its success is based on the amount of money it makes first and its popularity second. So if a good movie comes out and most decide they would rather illegally download it at home, there are MANY negative affects.

1. The main effect is if a movie doesn't make enough revenue. Even though it might be a masterpiece, it will become hard to find a DVD distributor. This is specifically important in the Independent Movie arena. So not only would they be getting screwed at the box office, now their income is continued to be offset by inability to distribute. You think cable channels pay top dollar to air box office flops?

2. It's lack of success can lead to the writer, director, producers, etc. never getting work again or push their career back for making a movie that didn't bring in enough revenue. Same with the actors.

3. Your rationale only pans out at far as the Hollywood Studios and ends there. What about all those people who depend on royalities or percentages of profits, rentals, DVD purchases, etc. If you are illegally downloading movies you have COMPLETELY screwed these people out of their hard work. This is especially true in the case of independent movies where normal salaries are often traded for a percentage in future earnings.

What you are doing is stealing, plain and simple. Your "I pay a cable bill" is not a justification for a free for all on anything you want. Paying a cable bill entitles you to a SERVICE ONLY not a RIGHT to every movie ever made.

Darkland · 01-20-2009, 09:38 AM

This thread actually convinced me to go out and see it... Far better that I expected.

Bama? Bama? Anyone? Anyone?

Redmanthatcould · 01-20-2009, 11:09 AM

I can't stand that everyone seems to enjoy this film. I wasn't going to write a review about it, but now I almost have to just to give it a thorough bashing like it deserves.

Darkland · 01-20-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by VS_Jeff

I can't stand that everyone seems to enjoy this film. I wasn't going to write a review about it, but now I almost have to just to give it a thorough bashing like it deserves.

You can't stand it that others have a differing opinion than yours, therefore you MUST go out of your way to bash it because everyone with an opposite opinion must clearly be ignorant and must be corrected.

That about sum it up?

Sounds like something my kid would say or do.

HorseShit · 01-20-2009, 11:45 AM

I'll have to see this one

SifuE · 01-20-2009, 12:48 PM

zipperhead...lol

Bama · 01-20-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkland

You can't stand it that others have a differing opinion than yours

Seems that you're not too pleased that my opinion is different than yours, but that's ok, we can agree to disagree. You weren't successful in swaying my opinion though.

Until you hop off your horse and realize that, every single time you fast forward through the commercials of any and every television show you've ever taped, you're robbing the studios of revenue. The sponsors pay huge sums of money to deliver their message to you and you skip right past it...

There isn't one among you that don't do it - and please, just don't even try to make me believe you don't - so if you think my hands are dirty - your hands are just as dirty and you're just as guilty... and I just can't tolerate being preached to by a hypocrite.

RevShare it! · 01-20-2009, 09:39 PM

great mov !

missipissi · 01-20-2009, 09:52 PM

Gran Turismo > Gran Torino

ExLust · 01-21-2009, 12:49 AM

I'll have to see Gran Torino. Thanks.

pamon · 01-21-2009, 01:49 AM

it was an awesome movie. Clint Eastwood was Clint of the dirty harry days. Great drama and the girl/guy playing the neighbors were great. Excellent storyline. Clint's character is like Archie Bunker to the extreme. Thought the girl was pretty cute too..

Movie of the Year!!

american pervert · 01-21-2009, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by VS_Jeff

I can't stand that everyone seems to enjoy this film. I wasn't going to write a review about it, but now I almost have to just to give it a thorough bashing like it deserves.

guess what, you're a fucktard. When you're done bashing this movie I'll bash VS for being a bunch of cocksuckers.

opinions are like assholes... and your company is run/owned/stolen by 2 of the biggest in the biz.

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421Fill Super Mario Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Swenson's Avatar Posts: 19,339	I saw Gran Torino on saturday and liked it a lot. The ending was a bit of a surprise to me, though I'm sure those out there that will say it was predictable. There was one part that I thought was hokey... one of the lines he used when he confronted the three black dudes hassling his neighbor, but I still laughed when he said it. Good movie, imo. Worth seeing. __________________ 99.912% of the world survived the covid pandemic. "if the allegations that the judge raped the sheriff's daughter are true..." -- 'Things I Never Thought I would Say' for $1,000, Alex

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pamon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,108	it was an awesome movie. Clint Eastwood was Clint of the dirty harry days. Great drama and the girl/guy playing the neighbors were great. Excellent storyline. Clint's character is like Archie Bunker to the extreme. Thought the girl was pretty cute too.. Movie of the Year!! __________________ Email: [email protected] Skype: davidamodt. / TG: Davidamodt US Adult Content & Porn Writer Project/Sites/Tubes/Reviews & More