you can always sell them in the hood.

So is cocaine+heroin but that is fairly popular combo. I know people mixing all sorts of prescribed drugs a stimulant+depressant on paper may just cancel each other out but im sure thats not how it works otherwise they would not bother, especially since mixing stimulants and depressants can be pretty dangerous.

Snorting Xanax will not make it work any faster. There is a Xanax called Niravam that melts in your mouth. That is supposed to work faster but it taste like shit.

Bullshit. I love how you generalize things. It is not simpler to take drugs. Most people with anxiety or panic attacks are afraid to take medication. They eventaully take it because they are tired of being afraid or feeling sick all the time. The best treatment is medication and therapy. Don't try and play a fucking doctor on here because you are not one. Most people that are given Xanax by a doctor do not become addicted to it. I had no problem what so ever lowering Xanax from 4 mg's a day to 1.25 mg's a day. I hate people like you that make such broad statements about people taking certain medications.

I also find it funny that Ryan posts he takes Ritalin and people are bitching about it. Yet people post on here the illegal drugs they take and a bunch of people join in on what illegal drugs they take. So if you get a drugs from a doctor it is so bad, but if you get drugs from a dealer it is cool. That is really fucked up.

Yes it will, the doc may tell you otherwise maybe he doesnt want you becoming a junkie (although arguably you already are). Have you tried snorting it? Im guessing not because those who have pretty much all say it does.

Guess you would know... :winkwink:

ADG

Funny and sad, therapy is not needed for 99% of people with anxiety problems. Most peoples anxiety is over such small problems they dont like the way they look or they think people are staring at them and stupid shit like that, you do not need therapy for that. If you have mental strength you will overcome it by yourself. People having panic attacks know why they are having them, mostly they can pin point the exact reason and they also know what they have to do beat it, you just need to toughen up.

Good for you.

I'm surprised JaneB can actually post on GFY. I think that's probably about the upper limit of capabilities though.

I take adderal.. ADD... ADHD doesn't mean your jumping up and down and going crazy. the hyper part is due to your "brain" going million miles an hour in every other direction.

if you are really considering it you should see a psychiatrist for your diagnosis and prescription not a general practitioner...

as for the thread i got lots to say but am biting my tongue

Well, that sounds healthy and normal... :thumbsup :upsidedow

ADG

Pharmaceuticals companies make a killing because we live in a victim culture.

Nobody takes personal responsibility, it is easier to always blame outside forces.

If I can't concentrate it is because I have ADHD, if I am fat it is because McDonalds force fed me, If I am broke it is because others don't recognize my talents....

generally true but add/hd is real and some people do have it

Doesn't usually take 30+ years to diagnose it, and more importantly, there are many non-drug maintenance treatments/cures...

ADG

if it took that long all but 10% of people suffering from it would have grown out of it and wouldnt need a diagnosis or drugs (assuming we are talking about children)...i understand there are other non drug maintenance methods but they don't work for all...i don't advocate passing out meds like candy and would suggest trying these alternate therapies frst but they dont work for everyone...

Not totally disagreeing with you.

I'm sure some people (a very small percentage of the population) are sick/chemically imbalanced enough that they cannot cope without such drugs.

However, it is pretty well established that people are over-prescribed Ritalin, that it is a potentially dangerous and addictive drug, and that many people buy it on the street simply because they feel good taking dopamine releasing speed stimulants.

Based on my observations of my brother on (and off) Ritalin, I would recommend that any person give non-drug treatment a try for at least or year or two, before going the addictive drug route, which can lead to erectile dysfunction, heart attack or suicide.

:2 cents:

ADG

throughout grade school my teachers had seat belts and tied me down to my chair...they would also let me leave in the middle of class to run laps...i tried some of the drugs back then and didn't really like them so i stopped taking them...by the time i hit middle school i had learned some coping skills on my own and used them throughout high school with mild success...i am now over 30 and one of the 10% that never lost it...i personally meet all but one of the criteria to this date...going to drugs should only be used if the add is crippling and severely fucks up your daily life to the point you cant function and you have tried alternate methods...even with alternate methods i should proly take meds but it's a personal choice not to do so...some really have it, the ones that use it as an excuse or brag about having it (most of them in that category dont) bother the shit out of me...as for the side effects, as with all drugs the patient has to weigh the risks to the benefits and make a choice...

and as for the over prescribing, i already said i agreed in this thread and others on the same topic...but people do the same with benzo's and almost every drug...doesnt mean they should stop making it and prescribing it for people that actually need it ;)

I agree with most of what you say. I do think there is another side to it though. If a pill makes you feel better, makes your life better, should the side effects not be weighed out the same way other aspects of our life are? We know that eating chocolate cake is probably not good for our health, but it makes our meals enjoyable. We know getting hammered is probably not great for our liver, but we do it because we enjoy the feeling. I don't think prescription drugs are much different in that respect.

It's easy to say that we should do it "the natural way". But nothing about our lives is natural. We didn't evolve to work 8 hour days in front of a computer. We didn't evolve as a species to have to handle bills, divorces, and rush hour traffic. Many of the things we treat like anxiety and ADHD were beneficial aspects of our species at one time. They no longer are.

I guess what I'm saying is that we shouldn't just throw prescription drugs out the window because they are foreign to us. Everything about our lives is foreign. Ritalin does have some side effects, some can be serious if the dosage is too high. But it also can have some kick ass results. It directly influences the prefrontal cortex and really allows you to focus. There is no vegetable on the planet that can do that. If it helps a person work better, make more money, and feel better about themselves, maybe the side effects aren't so bad.

I'm not saying everyone should go on it. It is overprescribed, especially to kids. It can have an impact on the development of the brain of a young child. But I do think as adults, drugs like this shouldn't be spurned. They may be able to help us achieve much more, and perhaps with the right research, with much less side effects.

Note: I don't take Ritalin

100 speedfreaks

If instead of Pharmaceutical speed (ritalin) you take street speed you will have the most productive 72 hours of your life.

Not only will you catch up on weeks of work, you'll probably end up cleaning the whole house and mowing the lawn...all while enjoying doing it like never before.

Should you carry on taking it because it "works" and makes life temporarily better?

How about if you were procrastinating before, was it because you had a speed deficiency?

Theres also the come down that makes you feel like slitting your wrists and can last for days.

Sticky said that after taking Retalin he got loads of shit done.

Comedowns, depression, dependency.... all small details.

The man got shit done on Retalin, must have ADHD then, nothing to do with the fact that Ritalin is watered down speed. :thumbsup

my pdoc wanted to pupt me on retalin at first but then we went with adderal, it seems really you can try whatever you want with them since each one is different everyone reacts differently to each one.

All the stimulants, ritalin,adderal,etc are allllll controled speed when it comes down to it. You can turn adderal into meth its all in the same family hence why its a controled substance. I didn't realize it at first until my doctor said I have to come see her every time I need a refil because she has to physically hand me the script every time I need a refill. Theres no crash with adderal but when I take it work does get done.

Its been proven that even the smallest dosage of adderal etc helps improve anyone even if they dont 'have ADD/ADHD. The flip side is it can become highly addictive.

what he said...

the US is the only country i ever heard of that has so many people with "anxiety" problems or ADD - funny how all the others survive without meds. it somehow seems to be cool to have problems and let everyone know what drugs you are on - completely beyond my comprehension

Ryan who gives a fuck what these people think. If you need Ritalin, take it. I have to laugh at some of these postings. Some of these people have no issue with being drunk off of their ass a majority of the time. Alcohol is addicting too. I also have seen many people on this forum high as a kite at events. So I guess if the drugs are illegal it is ok. Hell when I was at the Phoenix Forum I had people begging me for some Xanax. Lightspeed was right about adult being a fucked up industry. :2 cents:

I could of saved the doctor appointments and just came to gfy for a diagnosis and solution. So many jackasses on here. I take 1 pill per day oh my God!! You idiots act like Im crushing up 10 pills a day and snorting them.

I was told I probably had add back in like 1990 or 91. I never followed up on it, and have been fighting focus issues for years.

I get prescribed a drug by a doctor as a first test to see how it works for me, and you stupid fuckers act like I am hardlining heroin. Ritalin seems to be doing wonders for me, and not hardly any side effects unless I have too much caffeine during the day and then I get a few jitters.

But I know, I know, all the medical degrees on here say my doc is wrong right? LOL

Anyways have a great day folks, working on doing 2008 tax stuff and getting ready to get ours filed.

And btw Warchild ADG will meet me someday, and we'll see how he is. I bet it will be different than he is on the board. Anyone that I have had issues with on gfy, and met them in person I get along with great now. I won't name the people, but Im sure there are some if I listed you would not believe that we get along now after the history we had. Anywho...

Adg coming to the phx show? :thumbsup

thing is you were not actually diagnosed with it then and being prescribed ritalin would help anyone focus...being prescribed medication and having it work doesnt diagnose a disease...i'm not saying you are not add or are doing anything wrong but the way in which you and your doctor came to the conclusion of add isn't the right way of doing it...

I didn't give details on what my doc and I discussed and why he prescribed it did I?

Why would you post such personal info on gfy? Do you enjoy the harrassment? :1orglaugh

You act like I posted I have an std or something lol. What is wrong with taking meds that you need that improve your life quality? :1orglaugh

Nothing at all.

But its an admission that something is/was wrong with you, which is what I am referring to.

So, good for you if that is what you want to hear. Congrats on improving your quality of life. :)

I wouldn't suggest taking any street drug. Ritalin is a controlled substance and has had extensive testing done on it over the years. It's relatively safe regardless of what you'll hear from scientologists (the ones who started the backlash against Ritalin).

If you've taken Ritalin before, you know it's not a gimmick. It really works. It will dramatically increase your focus and attention. You will be able to get more work done. If the side effects are minimal for something that makes you better, why is it evil?

Its evil because the thread started leaning that direction, and band wagoning ensued lol. Oh that and the media lol

I just read Ritalin is a gateway drug and soon I will be messed up on crack, meth, and heroin. Get the needles ready I will be injecting coke into my penis soon.. :Oh crap:1orglaugh

Sorry, I haven't decided about going to the Phoenix show yet.

I go to few shows since I am neither a sponsor or affiliate, and I know how to conduct business with people without attending lots of shows, but even if I did, I doubt that I would have anything to say to you at Phoenix or any other show. You already know what I think about you.

Seriously, you have been called out time and again as being a liar, a thief, and a generally shady character...basically, not the kind of person I do business with.

Just one example...you e-mailed me in late December stating that you and your ex-wife were reconciling, and in this thread you were talking about you and Dixie/Dana getting back together - after Dixie started a thread which basically inferred that you were not making any money, except perhaps off of her, and that you threatened to tell her father who was returning from duty in Iraq about her adult work, as a form of blackmail/manipulation/retaliation.

She also alluded to the possibility that you had heart/health problems due to a pill overdose, if I understand her post correctly - which was in part why I initially questioned your sudden decision and euphoria about taking Ritalin, since it's basically a form of speed that is potentially very addictive and dangerous (there is documentation about the suicide and heart attack risks, among other dangers).

So what is it? Are you and your wife getting back together, or are you and Dixie getting together again? Pretty hard to believe even an experienced slimy con man like you could make that into a 3-way (more like a three ring circus). :winkwink:

So, as I asked before, which "meal ticket" woman is it for you?!?

Or are you still working on whichever meal ticket girl will buy into your act first and become your meal ticket again?

Oh yeah, your wife taking the kids and leaving you, and Dixie dissing you, those were all just "misunderstandings", and anyone that only heard your side of the story from you knows what really happened. :upsidedow :1orglaugh

Why is it that you have a web site attacking your wife for "abducting" her children, and designed to garner sympathy for yourself, yet you make no mention about your porn biz, or about Dixie, which were both likely factors in her decision to take the kids and run away from you, and also just might have an influence on people that you expect to buy into your BS abduction story?

Nah, that might make people possibly think that your ex-wife "rescued" your children from the terrible human being which presumably she thought that you are.

Anyway, I go to shows to do business with reputable people, and you are not one as far as I am concerned, so I do not anticipate us hanging out by the pool having a drink as I explain to you again, what I think about you. If you don't know by now, I doubt you ever will.

ADG

Glad to see you doing something about your life Sticky. If it's working then stay with it.

Isn't there a No Personal attacks rule?

What personal attack(s) are you referring to?

You raised/addressed the issue regarding your wife dumping you, taking the kids, losing your house, and the attack site about your wife, before I did.

How else would I know about these things?

Dixie/Dana made the thread about you, which I merely cited. If you can respond, so can anyone.

Little baby gonna go cry to the mods again? :1orglaugh

http://lineout.thestranger.com/files...11/crybaby.jpg

I haven't done any personal attacks, namecalling, and veiled threats, on any level close to what you have done (and not just to me, but towards many people).

I'm sure that it frustrates you that I have not taken the bait that you constantly throw out to get a few of your many other critics banned.

I have simply responded to issues and subjects that you and others have brought up first.

This is a forum - deal with it.

As far as I am concerned, this post of yours is just another way to avoid responding to the questions which I previously asked in response to your previous writing.

And just to make sure we keep this on topic, you are the one that felt that it was necessary to announce to all on GFY that you are taking mind altering and potentially addictive and dangerous drugs to simply try and function normally (not that you have exhibited such in this thread).

Why would a sane business person even bring such a thing up?

You really are your own worst enemy... :2 cents:

ADG

To be fair, it is also often said that Americans are more stressed out than many others. So I'm sure that leads to some anxiety. Though I do believe people should find the root of their anxiety and try to fix that as opposed to treating the symptoms.

On another note... no two people are the same. How Ritalin impacts one person can be dramatically different than how it impacts another, even if both are classified as being "ADD". While as a nation I feel that we do depend on prescription medications way too much and short-term "Band-Aids", I also feel that it is pretty ignorant for any of us to even guess how another person is feeling and what their medical condition truly is.

In the end, we are all free to have our own opinion but if a pill makes somebody a better functioning member of society... whatever. There are worse things that could happen.