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mikeyddddd 01-18-2009 03:20 PM


Noe 01-18-2009 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PSSuperstars (Post 15345637)
I've been wanting to go on Adderall for a while now... I'm way manic and high strung.. and lately it's been interfering with work.

If you're manic and high strung I would definitely NOT recommend adderall. I would look into a good antidepressant.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-18-2009 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 15349967)
Dixie and me had a fight, we both tried to hurt each other, she used gfy knowing there would be a few cunt faces like you that would push things. Thinking people understand that couples have fights and shit happens. She will be back posting on gfy in the next few days. We are busy shooting content at the moment. We are more solid than we ever were now after spending the holidays apart. We are more than a couple we are best friends, and low lifes like you show your colors constantly bringing it back up just to make me look bad. Don't bother worrying about the issues between my ex and me and our custody issues. Most of the industry already knows whats going on, and have talked to me personally about it, and not one of them thinks the way you do about it. Maybe because they know the REAL story and not the story you have tried to push as the truth.

Someday we will meet face to face, and Id love to see how you talk to me then. You are the essence of keyboard warrior. Spend some time getting your site looking like its from this decade instead of poking your nose into others biz. :321GFY

http://www.sourball.com/chickenhead/schwag/hanim.gif

Dude, get off the drugs already... :2 cents:

Just over two weeks ago you e-mailed me stating that you and your wife are reconciling, and now you are talking about you and Dixie getting back together?!? :1orglaugh

So which meal ticket woman is it?

Or are you trying to say the three of you are moving in together with the kids? That could be awkward. :helpme

In either case, better read up about Ritalin and erectile dysfunction if you plan to continue being porn talent there, stud. :winkwink:

ADG

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-18-2009 05:10 PM

Stinky, do you take your Ritalin in cereal form? :1orglaugh

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../ritalin-o.jpg

Of course real prescription drug junkies crush it up and either snort or inject it... :helpme

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JaneB 01-18-2009 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cess (Post 15345896)
Easy to say when you don't really have the problem. I hear that all the time though, I've had people try to tell me acid reflux was only caused from a bad diet. Maybe it is for idiots who eat too much mexican food but that isn't always the case. The truth is there's people out there that's had acid not only burn through their stomach but chest/throat and often puke it up. It's a real problem for some people.

Also if that were true that means nearly every doctor/scientists would be in on it too. Talk about one hell of a scam...

You are right about one thing though ritalin is shit and so are most those other drugs, gotta be careful what you take...


I can vouch that acid reflux is horrible. I do not eat anything spicy ever. I eat a great diet but I still have acid reflux. I have been eating a lot of raw foods which is supposed to to help in time. It is a real problem and it hurts like hell.

JaneB 01-18-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 15346491)
To reiterate I got a full check up, ekg, walking on treadmill. Blood tests. My heart is 100% healthy. All I had was a severe panic attack that mimicked heart attack symptoms. I was told by the doc in the ER when I made that thread that I "might" of had a minor heart issue, but the results of the initial blood test showed I was fine. I had an appointment at my regular doc later that week to make sure.

I've lost 19lbs down from 164 to 145, and I am very slim and trim, and building new muscle. I've stuck to my 5 day a week regiment for the last 2.5 months since that happened. Swim 30 minutes of laps 3 days a week, 200 situps a day, 100 in the morn, 100 at night, 100 pushups 50 in morn 50 at night. 3 sets of 30 curls using 25lb weights per arm. 100 squats a day. And try to do like 50 sets of going up and down the stairs. I usually take 2 days off and veg out. Im more than likely in better shape than I would guess 80% of the people on this forum, but could be wrong lol

Having the occasional pizza isn't going to hurt you much. And it wasn't even pizza I got that night that people are talking about, it was hot wings and a small order of cheese sticks that I didn't even eat more than 2 of lol. My main diet is normally turkey sandwiches using light mayo, salad, fruits, and veggies. Ill put up some new ab pics on monday or tues.

The retalin seems to work for me, I assure you I need it. I don't ever use drugs as a crutch. And I bitch at people that do, but this stuff just seems to keep me focused and able to get through work that I need to complete. :thumbsup


If Retalin helps you than take it. It is easy to tell people that drugs are bad when they do not have the problem. I have panic attacks and I take Xanax for it. People tell me that Xanax is bad as well. I would like to see them have a few panic attacks each day for a month or two and not take something for it. Not everything can be cured with vitamins and a great diet. Some things do require medication.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-18-2009 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15351189)
If Retalin helps you than take it. It is easy to tell people that drugs are bad when they do not have the problem. I have panic attacks and I take Xanax for it. People tell me that Xanax is bad as well. I would like to see them have a few panic attacks each day for a month or two and not take something for it. Not everything can be cured with vitamins and a great diet. Some things do require medication.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...rel_nuts_1.jpg

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NickB. 01-18-2009 09:25 PM

I only take sleeping pills once in a while

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-18-2009 09:42 PM

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t.../ritalin-1.jpg

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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-18-2009 10:38 PM

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/...sh_lithium.gif

http://www.rockass.net/uploaded_images/no_ritalin_2.jpg

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JaneB 01-18-2009 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 15346911)
Really?



Okay...



We get it already (do you have OCD now too)!!!



That's just gay!!! :disgust

We understand - you claim to have been clinically diagnosed as being mentally unbalanced, and have been prescribed (or bought off the street) speed meds, which pump out the dopamine like cocaine, and that makes you feel better (DUH!!!).

Who could have seen/predicted mental illness coming in you?!? :upsidedow

Good luck with your recovery (since you are oblivious to the many above warnings in your drugged out state)...

ADG


Sometimes you are funny but in this case you have taken it to far. Implying that he may be buying his drugs off of the street is not right. ADD is not a mental illness. Frankly most of what you posted in here breaks the third rule of GFY since you are making personal attacks. You bringing Dixie into this was just shitty of you to do. :2 cents:


3. Anything goes, except do not post people's personal information, or attack peoples personal lives or families, stick to the issues and the bullshit. ANY WHOIS information is considered public information, it is not considered personal information. So don't bitch at us if you put your home address as your personal info on WHOIS.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-19-2009 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15351578)
Sometimes you are funny but in this case you have taken it to far. Implying that he may be buying his drugs off of the street is not right. ADD is not a mental illness. Frankly most of what you posted in here breaks the third rule of GFY since you are making personal attacks. You bringing Dixie into this was just shitty of you to do. :2 cents:

3. Anything goes, except do not post people's personal information, or attack peoples personal lives or families, stick to the issues and the bullshit. ANY WHOIS information is considered public information, it is not considered personal information. So don't bitch at us if you put your home address as your personal info on WHOIS.

Clueless response as usual... :upsidedow

I don't know if Stinky is buying his drugs off the street or not. Do you? Where do you think he gets his marijuana from? Longs Drugs, CVS, or Walgreens?

Stinky is the one that felt compelled to publicly announce his supposed need to take a potentially addictive and dangerous prescription drug to function normally.

You say ADHD is not a mental illness. So by that logic, do you think anyone could walk into a pharmacy and buy mind altering Ritalin over the counter to change their brain chemistry? Or do you think it is prescribed for people without a mental/chemical brain imbalance/illness?

As for my supposed personal attack against Dixie/Dana, I was simply quoting her, and Stinky brought up/posted the personal stuff about his family. If he had half a brain, he wouldn't bring up so much about his messed up personal life and psychological problems.

:2 cents:

ADG

stickyfingerz 01-19-2009 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 15351780)
Clueless response as usual... :upsidedow

I don't know if Stinky is buying his drugs off the street or not. Do you? Where do you think he gets his marijuana from? Longs Drugs, CVS, or Walgreens?

Stinky is the one that felt compelled to publicly announce his supposed need to take a potentially addictive and dangerous prescription drug to function normally.

You say ADHD is not a mental illness. So by that logic, do you think anyone could walk into a pharmacy and buy mind altering Ritalin over the counter to change their brain chemistry? Or do you think it is prescribed for people without a mental/chemical brain imbalance/illness?

As for my supposed personal attack against Dixie/Dana, I was simply quoting her, and Stinky brought up/posted the personal stuff about his family. If he had half a brain, he wouldn't bring up so much about his messed up personal life and psychological problems.

:2 cents:

ADG

I am going to love meeting you in person someday. Lets see how much you talk shit about me then. You continue to make personal attacks on this board about me over and over. Maybe you love me who knows, but why don't you just fuck off?

Blazed 01-19-2009 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 15351802)
I am going to love meeting you in person someday. Lets see how much you talk shit about me then. You continue to make personal attacks on this board about me over and over. Maybe you love me who knows, but why don't you just fuck off?

You look like a fag and post like a fag i really dont think he scared.

RevTKS69 01-19-2009 01:38 AM

Here's what sucks...
 
If Sticky had come in here and said that he had just finished chemotherapy and his cancer was in remission; I don't think there would have been nearly as much negative backlash as we're seeing in this thread.

And as far as posting here with his news people say 'well he posted this crap.' When someone gets a breakthrough with symptoms they have dealt with all their lives, they naturally want to share that information with people.

I thought A.D.D. was a bullshit diagnosis too...and when I got diagnosed with it, I was in serious denial about it. You know what, the meds have helped alot. I never kept a job longer than a year before my treatment, and I've made it three years plus since.

And realizing that I had a disorder, instead of just being 'lazy' 'worthless' 'underachiever' or any of the other names I had thrust upon me, helped me deal with my behavior issues more directly.

Anyway, Sticky, I'm glad you're getting results from your treatment (I take Adderall, btw) and don't let the negative crap get you down. Keep on rocking the treatment plan.

stickyfingerz 01-19-2009 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Blazed (Post 15351817)
You look like a fag and post like a fag i really dont think he scared.

Ahh its another tough guy. A fag? Awesome. Since I barely remember seeing you post, or posting anything notable that would cause me to remember you... let me see.. Nope don't give a fuck what you think about me. :)

nico-t 01-19-2009 05:36 AM

i need some of that dixie dash squirt footage to ummmm.. evaluate.

JaneB 01-19-2009 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 15351780)
Clueless response as usual... :upsidedow

I don't know if Stinky is buying his drugs off the street or not. Do you? Where do you think he gets his marijuana from? Longs Drugs, CVS, or Walgreens?

Stinky is the one that felt compelled to publicly announce his supposed need to take a potentially addictive and dangerous prescription drug to function normally.

You say ADHD is not a mental illness. So by that logic, do you think anyone could walk into a pharmacy and buy mind altering Ritalin over the counter to change their brain chemistry? Or do you think it is prescribed for people without a mental/chemical brain imbalance/illness?

As for my supposed personal attack against Dixie/Dana, I was simply quoting her, and Stinky brought up/posted the personal stuff about his family. If he had half a brain, he wouldn't bring up so much about his messed up personal life and psychological problems.

:2 cents:

ADG


You claim to be an adult, try acting like one. You post like you are 12 and this is your MySpace blog. All conditions that deal with the brain are not mental illnesses. I guess you think Epilepsy is a mental illness too because it is a brain disorder. There are mental illnesses, brain disorders and neurobiological brain disorders.

You also assume the worst in people. I have no idea where he gets his medication, but I would not just jump to the conclusion that it must be from the local drug dealer. He said he saw a doctor, and I am sure that the doctor gave him a script for the drugs. A lot of over the counter drugs can change your brain chemistry as well.

You seem to live for drama on here and then create some if there is none. If you think your behavior is normal for an adult, then you need a mental evaluation. :2 cents:

tranza 01-19-2009 11:52 AM

http://newideas.net/images/ritalin.gif

it's all about ritalin! hahahah

Blazed 01-19-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 15351840)
Ahh its another tough guy. A fag? Awesome. Since I barely remember seeing you post, or posting anything notable that would cause me to remember you... let me see.. Nope don't give a fuck what you think about me. :)

If i was trying to be a tough guy i would be making threats about meeting people such as you are doing. If you didnt give a fuck though you wouldnt have replied. Anyway ill let you get back to your panic attacks.

dav3 01-19-2009 07:44 PM

It's always good to see issues get resolved.

CheeseHead Nacho Burger 01-19-2009 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 15345651)
I have the potential to be 100x's more successful than I am if I can just stay focused. .

100x's zero is still zero.

:)

(couldn't resist)

JaneB 01-19-2009 08:05 PM

[QUOTE=Blazed;15357392]If i was trying to be a tough guy i would be making threats about meeting people such as you are doing. If you didnt give a fuck though you wouldnt have replied. Anyway ill let you get back to your panic attacks.[/QUOTE



You have done a wonderful job of being a tool. You should be proud. I bet it is the highlight of your day. :thumbsup

After Shock Media 01-19-2009 08:05 PM

[QUOTE=JaneB;15354526]All conditions that deal with the brain are not mental illnesses. I guess you think Epilepsy is a mental illness too because it is a brain disorder. There are mental illnesses, brain disorders and neurobiological brain disorders.

First http://www.addresources.org/article_...ess_hammer.php

Second: I suppose congrats sticky. You never came off as having ADHD the times we met, nor the times we have spoken. Suppose you could have it however you acted nothing like my brother who does have it, nor any others I have met with it. Guess live and learn. If it helps you, then well so be it.
I personally would seek additional opinions, even if the ritalin works. Well it does have that habit of making almost anyone focus and well get shit done. I am always very sketchy about the drugs I do take.

Would never presume it is a fake disorder. I do think it is an over hyped and over diagnosed one though. Sort of like allergies today along with several other issues. So do be careful and watch it all. My brother ended up all fucked up and also addicted to ritalin himself. We ended up finding some other treatments that worked.

montel 01-20-2009 12:18 AM

you know this is like eating speed tablets right? i am no doctor or pharmacist, but this isnt a really good idea.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-20-2009 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by montel (Post 15358154)
you know this is like eating speed tablets right? i am no doctor or pharmacist, but this isnt a really good idea.

You can't talk sense to people that believe their sanity depends on dangerous addictive prescription drugs like Ritalin:

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/RITALIN_DEES.jpg

or Xanax:

http://www.xyrcncp.com/gallery/d/833-2/stoned_20cat.jpg

...'cuz they feel good when they are loaded on drugs:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/10...00895b56d1.jpg

There are other forms of treatment out there for real sufferers of ADHD or anxiety attacks, but it's much easier to simply take drugs.

Unfortunately, before users know it, they are addicted - and many prescription drugs, such as Ritalin and Xanax, are harder to kick than cocaine/heroin habits.

:2 cents:

ADG

Blazed 01-20-2009 02:35 AM

If you are going to take ritalin you may as well snort it, it will hit you a lot quicker and it will be more intense. Of course you could always inject it for an even better high if thats how you roll. Doing the above with both Xanax+Ritalin together many junkies say is even more affective. Or some valium with the ritalin if you are of those who can get all edgy.

pocketkangaroo 01-20-2009 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Blazed (Post 15358666)
If you are going to take ritalin you may as well snort it, it will hit you a lot quicker and it will be more intense. Of course you could always inject it for an even better high if thats how you roll. Doing the above with both Xanax+Ritalin together many junkies say is even more affective. Or some valium with the ritalin if you are of those who can get all edgy.

I had a friend who would get massive panic attacks and snort his Xanax during them to get it in his system faster.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-20-2009 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Blazed (Post 15358666)
If you are going to take ritalin you may as well snort it, it will hit you a lot quicker and it will be more intense. Of course you could always inject it for an even better high if thats how you roll. Doing the above with both Xanax+Ritalin together many junkies say is even more effective.

Actually, Ritalin is a stimulant and Xanax is a depressant, so they would likely cancel each other out.

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 15364309)
I had a friend who would get massive panic attacks and snort his Xanax during them to get it in his system faster.

Xanax abusers are among the biggest addicts in denial. They use a short term use drug recklessly for extended periods of time, until they can't function without it, and even then, they mostly dysfunction (which is kind of how they ended up at the dead end they found themselves in to begin with):

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures...ter--34370.jpg

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WarChild 01-20-2009 09:06 PM

How do I get on the list of people Sticky is going to "confront" if he ever meets them?

I think I'd really enjoy making him cry like a girl for some reason. Does that make me a bad person?

Agent 488 01-20-2009 09:19 PM

you can always sell them in the hood.

Blazed 01-20-2009 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 15364415)
Actually, Ritalin is a stimulant and Xanax is a depressant, so they would likely cancel each other out.



Xanax abusers are among the biggest addicts in denial. They use a short term use drug recklessly for extended periods of time, until they can't function without it, and even then, they mostly dysfunction (which is kind of how they ended up at the dead end they found themselves in to begin with):

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures...ter--34370.jpg

ADG

So is cocaine+heroin but that is fairly popular combo. I know people mixing all sorts of prescribed drugs a stimulant+depressant on paper may just cancel each other out but im sure thats not how it works otherwise they would not bother, especially since mixing stimulants and depressants can be pretty dangerous.

JaneB 01-20-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 15364309)
I had a friend who would get massive panic attacks and snort his Xanax during them to get it in his system faster.


Snorting Xanax will not make it work any faster. There is a Xanax called Niravam that melts in your mouth. That is supposed to work faster but it taste like shit.

JaneB 01-20-2009 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 15358265)
You can't talk sense to people that believe their sanity depends on dangerous addictive prescription drugs like Ritalin:

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/RITALIN_DEES.jpg

or Xanax:

http://www.xyrcncp.com/gallery/d/833-2/stoned_20cat.jpg

...'cuz they feel good when they are loaded on drugs:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/10...00895b56d1.jpg

There are other forms of treatment out there for real sufferers of ADHD or anxiety attacks, but it's much easier to simply take drugs.

Unfortunately, before users know it, they are addicted - and many prescription drugs, such as Ritalin and Xanax, are harder to kick than cocaine/heroin habits.

:2 cents:

ADG



Bullshit. I love how you generalize things. It is not simpler to take drugs. Most people with anxiety or panic attacks are afraid to take medication. They eventaully take it because they are tired of being afraid or feeling sick all the time. The best treatment is medication and therapy. Don't try and play a fucking doctor on here because you are not one. Most people that are given Xanax by a doctor do not become addicted to it. I had no problem what so ever lowering Xanax from 4 mg's a day to 1.25 mg's a day. I hate people like you that make such broad statements about people taking certain medications.

I also find it funny that Ryan posts he takes Ritalin and people are bitching about it. Yet people post on here the illegal drugs they take and a bunch of people join in on what illegal drugs they take. So if you get a drugs from a doctor it is so bad, but if you get drugs from a dealer it is cool. That is really fucked up.

Blazed 01-20-2009 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15364670)
Snorting Xanax will not make it work any faster. There is a Xanax called Niravam that melts in your mouth. That is supposed to work faster but it taste like shit.

Yes it will, the doc may tell you otherwise maybe he doesnt want you becoming a junkie (although arguably you already are). Have you tried snorting it? Im guessing not because those who have pretty much all say it does.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-20-2009 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15364670)
Snorting Xanax will not make it work any faster. There is a Xanax called Niravam that melts in your mouth. That is supposed to work faster but it taste like shit.

Guess you would know... :winkwink:

ADG

Blazed 01-20-2009 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15364710)
Bullshit. I love how you generalize things. It is not simpler to take drugs. Most people with anxiety or panic attacks are afraid to take medication. They eventaully take it because they are tired of being afraid or feeling sick all the time. The best treatment is medication and therapy. Don't try and play a fucking doctor on here because you are not one. Most people that are given Xanax by a doctor do not become addicted to it. I had no problem what so ever lowering Xanax from 4 mg's a day to 1.25 mg's a day. I hate people like you that make such broad statements about people taking certain medications.

I also find it funny that Ryan posts he takes Ritalin and people are bitching about it. Yet people post on here the illegal drugs they take and a bunch of people join in on what illegal drugs they take. So if you get a drugs from a doctor it is so bad, but if you get drugs from a dealer it is cool. That is really fucked up.

Funny and sad, therapy is not needed for 99% of people with anxiety problems. Most peoples anxiety is over such small problems they dont like the way they look or they think people are staring at them and stupid shit like that, you do not need therapy for that. If you have mental strength you will overcome it by yourself. People having panic attacks know why they are having them, mostly they can pin point the exact reason and they also know what they have to do beat it, you just need to toughen up.

ExLust 01-20-2009 11:16 PM

Good for you.

WarChild 01-20-2009 11:18 PM

I'm surprised JaneB can actually post on GFY. I think that's probably about the upper limit of capabilities though.

Spudstr 01-20-2009 11:22 PM

I take adderal.. ADD... ADHD doesn't mean your jumping up and down and going crazy. the hyper part is due to your "brain" going million miles an hour in every other direction.

BusterBunny 01-20-2009 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Carmine Raguso (Post 15345655)
Wow that sounds oddly too familiar. Did you have to see a shrink to get this? I have heard of it, I just never knew that this is the outcome or what it's used for.

if you are really considering it you should see a psychiatrist for your diagnosis and prescription not a general practitioner...

as for the thread i got lots to say but am biting my tongue

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-20-2009 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 15365015)
ADD... ADHD doesn't mean your jumping up and down and going crazy. the hyper part is due to your "brain" going million miles an hour in every other direction.

Well, that sounds healthy and normal... :thumbsup :upsidedow

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Slappin Fish 01-20-2009 11:55 PM

Pharmaceuticals companies make a killing because we live in a victim culture.

Nobody takes personal responsibility, it is easier to always blame outside forces.

If I can't concentrate it is because I have ADHD, if I am fat it is because McDonalds force fed me, If I am broke it is because others don't recognize my talents....

BusterBunny 01-20-2009 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 15365139)
Pharmaceuticals companies make a killing because we live in a victim culture.

Nobody takes personal responsibility, it is easier to always blame outside forces.

If I can't concentrate it is because I have ADHD, if I am fat it is because McDonalds force fed me, If I am broke it is because others don't recognize my talents....

:2 cents:

generally true but add/hd is real and some people do have it

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-21-2009 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 15365142)
generally true but add/hd is real and some people do have it

Doesn't usually take 30+ years to diagnose it, and more importantly, there are many non-drug maintenance treatments/cures...

ADG

BusterBunny 01-21-2009 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 15365180)
Doesn't usually take 30+ years to diagnose it, and more importantly, there are many non-drug maintenance treatments/cures...

ADG

if it took that long all but 10% of people suffering from it would have grown out of it and wouldnt need a diagnosis or drugs (assuming we are talking about children)...i understand there are other non drug maintenance methods but they don't work for all...i don't advocate passing out meds like candy and would suggest trying these alternate therapies frst but they dont work for everyone...

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-21-2009 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 15365195)
if it took that long all but 10% of people suffering from it would have grown out of it and wouldnt need a diagnosis or drugs (assuming we are talking about children)...i understand there are other non drug maintenance methods but they don't work for all...i don't advocate passing out meds like candy and would suggest trying these alternate therapies frst but they dont work for everyone...

Not totally disagreeing with you.

I'm sure some people (a very small percentage of the population) are sick/chemically imbalanced enough that they cannot cope without such drugs.

However, it is pretty well established that people are over-prescribed Ritalin, that it is a potentially dangerous and addictive drug, and that many people buy it on the street simply because they feel good taking dopamine releasing speed stimulants.

Based on my observations of my brother on (and off) Ritalin, I would recommend that any person give non-drug treatment a try for at least or year or two, before going the addictive drug route, which can lead to erectile dysfunction, heart attack or suicide.

:2 cents:

ADG

BusterBunny 01-21-2009 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 15365242)
Not totally disagreeing with you.

I'm sure some people (a very small percentage of the population) are sick/chemically imbalanced enough that they cannot cope without such drugs.

However, it is pretty well established that people are over-prescribed Ritalin, that it is a potentially dangerous and addictive drug, and that many people buy it on the street simply because they feel good taking dopamine releasing speed stimulants.

Based on my observations of my brother on (and off) Ritalin, I would recommend that any person give non-drug treatment a try for at least or year or two, before going the addictive drug route, which can lead to erectile dysfunction, heart attack or suicide.

:2 cents:

ADG

throughout grade school my teachers had seat belts and tied me down to my chair...they would also let me leave in the middle of class to run laps...i tried some of the drugs back then and didn't really like them so i stopped taking them...by the time i hit middle school i had learned some coping skills on my own and used them throughout high school with mild success...i am now over 30 and one of the 10% that never lost it...i personally meet all but one of the criteria to this date...going to drugs should only be used if the add is crippling and severely fucks up your daily life to the point you cant function and you have tried alternate methods...even with alternate methods i should proly take meds but it's a personal choice not to do so...some really have it, the ones that use it as an excuse or brag about having it (most of them in that category dont) bother the shit out of me...as for the side effects, as with all drugs the patient has to weigh the risks to the benefits and make a choice...

BusterBunny 01-21-2009 01:20 AM

and as for the over prescribing, i already said i agreed in this thread and others on the same topic...but people do the same with benzo's and almost every drug...doesnt mean they should stop making it and prescribing it for people that actually need it ;)

pocketkangaroo 01-21-2009 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 15365242)
Not totally disagreeing with you.

I'm sure some people (a very small percentage of the population) are sick/chemically imbalanced enough that they cannot cope without such drugs.

However, it is pretty well established that people are over-prescribed Ritalin, that it is a potentially dangerous and addictive drug, and that many people buy it on the street simply because they feel good taking dopamine releasing speed stimulants.

Based on my observations of my brother on (and off) Ritalin, I would recommend that any person give non-drug treatment a try for at least or year or two, before going the addictive drug route, which can lead to erectile dysfunction, heart attack or suicide.

:2 cents:

ADG

I agree with most of what you say. I do think there is another side to it though. If a pill makes you feel better, makes your life better, should the side effects not be weighed out the same way other aspects of our life are? We know that eating chocolate cake is probably not good for our health, but it makes our meals enjoyable. We know getting hammered is probably not great for our liver, but we do it because we enjoy the feeling. I don't think prescription drugs are much different in that respect.

It's easy to say that we should do it "the natural way". But nothing about our lives is natural. We didn't evolve to work 8 hour days in front of a computer. We didn't evolve as a species to have to handle bills, divorces, and rush hour traffic. Many of the things we treat like anxiety and ADHD were beneficial aspects of our species at one time. They no longer are.

I guess what I'm saying is that we shouldn't just throw prescription drugs out the window because they are foreign to us. Everything about our lives is foreign. Ritalin does have some side effects, some can be serious if the dosage is too high. But it also can have some kick ass results. It directly influences the prefrontal cortex and really allows you to focus. There is no vegetable on the planet that can do that. If it helps a person work better, make more money, and feel better about themselves, maybe the side effects aren't so bad.

I'm not saying everyone should go on it. It is overprescribed, especially to kids. It can have an impact on the development of the brain of a young child. But I do think as adults, drugs like this shouldn't be spurned. They may be able to help us achieve much more, and perhaps with the right research, with much less side effects.

Note: I don't take Ritalin


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