Why Sales Are Slow (my opinion)

I agree tubes are a huge problem in this industry and will be until the laws are changed, but imho I think that file sharing forums are a lot worse than tubes

The difference is file sharing forums are not being shoved down everyone's throats like the tube sites are.

File sharing forums are also bad yes, but they are for the more tec savy user.

Like torrents or usenet, etc etc

Tubes with full length videos are popping up everywhere and taking a big slice of the pie (and giving it away)

Yeah and tubes are very easy for the user, your grandmother can use a tube.

I don't think her nursing home has hi-speed internet yet.

j/k my granny still lives on her own in her own condo, still drives herself, and believe it or not still drinks occasionally (scotch & soda) & smokes cigs every day. (since she was 25) she's 88 now.

born in 1921 and went through the last depression.

which was a lot tougher than this one.

You have a very good point there BV and I do agree with you, Tubes are a lot easier for the surfer to access and use, One click and they are watching a full clip, blown their load and will never pull their credit card out to pay for porn again,

But also it doesn't take them very long to become tech savvy these days It just takes one click of a mouse to download a full clip or dvd in HD quality then they can watch it anytime they like

I think you guys are selling the impact of filesharing forums a little short

this is where the huge growth in piracy will be this year, tubes will be huge because that will be the first place that new internet users (which used to be worth gold to us) get their porn, but filesharing through rapidshit and megauploadgs are getting to be the norm, and you are starting to more and more see links to it dropped all over the place, blogs, forums, comments on sites, more and more you see site rips and gallery and movie rips being shared through the hosts like rapidshit and that is a huge problem, because it is so user friendly that any computer beginner can click on a rapidshit link and figure out how to get their free porn fix, and it is all member area stuff

ND owns bigtits.com

Fucking tubes.

So we will warm them up with free full length tubes. then they will want more and better quality, so they will move on to the torrents and file sharing.

then the tubes will start giving away full length HD streaming with a download option

Hey, why don't we just send a hooker over to their house to suck them off also?

This fucking shit sucks ass and the Live Cam sites and Dating Sites are laughing all the way to the bank.


note: Just for the record (I am not talking about tubes with just teaser clips)

You are absolutely 100% right on this. Tube sites even with full length unlicensed videos offer essentially a random selection of videos that may not satisfy even a casual porn viewer. Torrents and forums have search engines that offer a user *exactly* what they want in terms of the exact DVD movie, a particular site rip or a starlet or director's name. This is a much more dangerous thing since a casual or serious collector can often find exactly what they want for free rather than paying for it which they may very well otherwise be willing to do.

Sales were already down more then 85 % because of TGPs so you fail... old days convertions haven othing to do with today's.

Yes, that is exactly right...
EXCEPT for one little problem.

If the content is unprotected it quickly is no longer exclusive as it will be on every tube and torrent site within hours of being in the members area. Believe me, I found that out and started protecting my stuff and watched sales go back up.

Well...at least until the economy collapsed.

Well if all of the tubes/torrents paid for and licensed their content then this would primarily be a affiliate only issue and those who are actually pornographers would be fine. However this is not a fight about traffic and who has it. It is about not paying for the right to use the content. Most pornographers could care less what tube/torrent site owners were doing with the content as long as they were being paid their licensing fee and the license terms where being upheld. As it currently stands though there is no real way to play in this market as a pornographer with copyright laws as they are.

As for bitching about it, it helps relieve the stress and lets some steam out. Perhaps if your lucky you may influence a few others and get a few more to not promote someone that encourages or supports the theft.
Then no amount of extra work, harder work and so forth helps the problem and the losses when you are more than an affiliate and an actual pornographer. You spend money to produce a quality product and then someone else comes along, steals it and then begins to profit off of it themselves cutting you out and not paying you for the right to do it. No amount of extra work makes up for that.

"mmmfmfmmmff,"

mumbles an agreement and then goes off to jerk off to some free tube porn

Don't blame Tube sites for our inability to compete with them. If members who were paying for content are now going to Tube sites then the sponsors of those sites are to blame. And the affiliates who sent the traffic. Our short sighted greed is yo blame for the slow down of sales.

Because if a site that converts like shit, supports thousands who will not spend to get one who will, has the biggest mish mash of pulp content, delivered off slow erratic servers and all in a crap resolution is taking our paying members then we are to blame.

No one else, not Tubes, not the advertisers, not the affiliates opening Tube sites and not the members. Our inability to compete with shit has shown us up for what we truly are.

An industry that can only survive when it's customers have to buy.