Why Sales Are Slow (my opinion)

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  • BV
    wtf
    • Sep 2001
    • 10914

    #46
    Originally posted by spacedog
    When people complain about their sales being low, it is because they're too busy jerking off on GFY complaining about shit instead of WORKING.

    I am busting my ass off 12-16 hours EVERY DAY, updating my sites, doing trades, or trying to and am constantly building new sites and shit as well as expanding into other niches and arenas previously not worked in...

    Yes, I have to work MORE to make money, but the $$ is still there and I fully intend on squeezing every fucking penny I can out of every single user that lands on any of my sites or pages...

    When was the last time you got off your fucking fat ass to spend a few hours arranging trades or link swaps?? Many of you are too fucking lazy and just slap up a linkex and then leave, doing nothing more than posting thousands of times your useless linkex spam farm url..

    When was the last time you updated your blog, or were you too busy posting on GFY wasting time and MONEY while your blog was fed via RSS.

    When was the last time you looked out of the box and tried something new without copying someone else or doing the same shit everyone else is doing?

    When was the last time you analyzed your SE traffic to ascertain what it is your traffic wants so that you can provide it to them.

    When was the last time you analyzed your SERP and keyword positions so to better your own rank and position, or were you too fucking busy trying to bring down your competitors.

    Face it, the nature of this business is EXTREMELY cut throat and it will NEVER come together as a whole to put an end to many things that affect it.. Sure small groups will band together, but let's face it.. It's every man for himself... Fuck what everyone else is doing.. What are YOU going to do to make sure YOU are making money.

    Stop looking for an angle or an out or any other scape goats and just WORK!!!!!!

    When you find something that is making YOU money, you don't go around telling everyone.

    You want to make money?? Drop the bigger sponsors and promote the smaller less promoted ones instead..

    Drop the sponsors that do promos, contests and bonus days.. Those are a CLEAR INDICATION that you will NOT make any money.. What fucking makes you think you'll make money with that if everyone else and their fucking mother is promoting the same fucking shit!! Promote something the others are NOT!!

    Just get off your fucking lazy fat ass and WORK instead of pissing and moaning about the goddamn tubes on GFY..

    You fucking retards are the ones telling the surfers about the tubes by constantly announcing and posting them here... GFY is the LARGEST PORN SURFERS FORUM IN THE WORLD, yet you dumb fucks find it a good idea to alert everyone the creation of yet another source of fucking free porn.

    If you're not making money, then you're definitely not WORKING.... Tubes are not to blame, nor is the economy... YOU ARE TO BLAME!


    Says the man that started a thread here wanting to own a bot on ICQ.

    "I'm just a sexy girl." hahahahaha

    Now you're an expert on the industry?

    Gimme a break...

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    • spacedog
      Yes that IS me. Bitch.
      • Nov 2001
      • 14149

      #47
      Originally posted by BV
      Says the man that started a thread here wanting to own a bot on ICQ.

      "I'm just a sexy girl." hahahahaha

      Now you're an expert on the industry?

      Gimme a break...
      Dude, get over it you asshole.. that was what, 7 years ago.. Whoopey doo, I chatted with a bot.. Grow the fuck up

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      • BV
        wtf
        • Sep 2001
        • 10914

        #48
        Originally posted by spacedog
        Whoopey doo, I chatted with a bot..



        That has a nice ring to it.

        But seriously, how do you go from chatting with a bot to being an expert on the industry???

        Seriously, you think that everyone's sales are down because we are not working hard enough? tubes, torrents, the shitty economy,

        none of that has anything to do with it?

        is that what you are saying?

        Simple logic disproves that.


        I'd also like to say that congrats to you for working harder and actually making some money in this biz ,

        But the fact of the matter is, no matter how hard you are working now and however much income you are getting from it, you are still not profiting as much as you could be if it was not for the problems many have described in the posts above.

        Everyone's sales are down, from paysites, to content producers, to the card processors. There is a huge chunk of pie missing that people can get for free now.

        That money is HISTORY.

        None of us will ever see it again.

        and it's just going to get worse.

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        • Aussie Rebel
          Blow Me U Geeks
          • Aug 2001
          • 5108

          #49
          Originally posted by Lamis
          Your numbers are wrong.

          TORRENTS, REPRESENT AT LEAST 80% of the online porn Illegal downloads, via azureus, and file sharing via RapidShare, depositfiles, etc.

          Tubes are NOTHING when you compare them with TORRENTS and File Sharing via forums. I repeat, Tubes are nothing in comparisson to Torrents and File Sharing. More than 90% of the webmasters have the inverse picture there and subestimate torrents and rapidshare links via forums.. And over estimate tubies.

          Since most people in the biz have no fucking idea about this, then we are FAR AWAY to even TRY to solve the problem.

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          • spacedog
            Yes that IS me. Bitch.
            • Nov 2001
            • 14149

            #50
            Originally posted by BV


            That has a nice ring to it.

            But seriously, how do you go from chatting with a bot to being an expert on the industry???

            Seriously, you think that everyone's sales are down because we are not working hard enough? tubes, torrents, the shitty economy,

            none of that has anything to do with it?

            is that what you are saying?

            Simple logic disproves that.


            I'd also like to say that congrats to you for working harder and actually making some money in this biz ,

            But the fact of the matter is, no matter how hard you are working now and however much income you are getting from it, you are still not profiting as much as you could be if it was not for the problems many have described in the posts above.

            Everyone's sales are down, from paysites, to content producers, to the card processors. There is a huge chunk of pie missing that people can get for free now.

            That money is HISTORY.

            None of us will ever see it again.

            and it's just going to get worse.

            Are you fucking illiterate? You're asking me what I said? Why do I need to say it twice? Are you that fucking stupid that I need to provide you with clarification?

            Apparently you do need clarification, since you completely got what I said all wrong.. Nice of you to add things I didn't even say or suggest.. That's typical of you.

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            • d-null
              . . .
              • Apr 2007
              • 13724

              #51
              Originally posted by spacedog
              You fucking retards are the ones telling the surfers about the tubes by constantly announcing and posting them here... GFY is the LARGEST PORN SURFERS FORUM IN THE WORLD, yet you dumb fucks find it a good idea to alert everyone the creation of yet another source of fucking free porn.
              !
              no, 4chan is bigger, but they already know the sauce for all the free pron


              your other point is irrelevant to the tube/torrent issue though, so you say that you have to work like a dog for 18 hours a day, imagine how rich you would be if sales weren't slow? your working 18 hours a day doesn't change the reality of the situation, it just means that you are working like a dog for what you can squeeze out of it, good for you, but it doesn't change the fact that the tubes etc have decimated the industry

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              • spacedog
                Yes that IS me. Bitch.
                • Nov 2001
                • 14149

                #52
                Originally posted by d-null
                no, 4chan is bigger, but they already know the sauce for all the free pron


                your other point is irrelevant to the tube/torrent issue though, so you say that you have to work like a dog for 18 hours a day, imagine how rich you would be if sales weren't slow? your working 18 hours a day doesn't change the reality of the situation, it just means that you are working like a dog for what you can squeeze out of it, good for you, but it doesn't change the fact that the tubes etc have decimated the industry
                Correct, HOWEVER, I realize that bitching about it on GFY isn't going to change any of it, so.. I work harder and smarter to overcome it, because this is the ONLY solution.

                NOBODY is going to change the reality for you.

                Yes tubes have an impact on online adult entertainment sales.
                Yes the economy has an impact on sales.
                Yes torrents have an impact on sales..

                BUT, are they to BLAME!! Who is to blame? Only YOU!! If your sales go down, you find a way to make them go back up.. plain and simple... Nobody is going to give you the answers nor the solutions to the problems you face.. Only YOU can figure out what will increase your profits.. bitching about it isn't going to accomplish anything,,, Especially on the very forum where some of the biggest players in the biz ARE THE ROOT of the problem.

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                • natas
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 3377

                  #53
                  Originally posted by jdavis
                  Thanks for this new insight, we all had no clue what was up
                  dude

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                  • spacedog
                    Yes that IS me. Bitch.
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 14149

                    #54
                    Would I be making more if tubes and torrents didn't exist? Bet your fucking ass I would... but that's the past.. That's not the reality, so, in order to overcome it, I must work harder and smarter in order to overcome this obstacle that was put in my way.

                    2007 was much more than 2008.. Many things had an impact.. however, the changes I made within my methods will make 2009 a record year.


                    We all can sit here and complain.. we always do... but look what's being accomplished....



                    NOTHING!

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                    • BV
                      wtf
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 10914

                      #55
                      Originally posted by spacedog
                      Are you fucking illiterate? You're asking me what I said? Why do I need to say it twice? Are you that fucking stupid that I need to provide you with clarification?

                      Apparently you do need clarification, since you completely got what I said all wrong.. Nice of you to add things I didn't even say or suggest.. That's typical of you.
                      You are still a clown dude:

                      You said quote: "Tubes are not to blame, nor is the economy... YOU ARE TO BLAME!"

                      Did you not say that?

                      You are the one fucked up! (still) after 7 years

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                      • spacedog
                        Yes that IS me. Bitch.
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 14149

                        #56
                        Originally posted by BV
                        You are still a clown dude:

                        You said quote: "Tubes are not to blame, nor is the economy... YOU ARE TO BLAME!"

                        Did you not say that?

                        You are the one fucked up! (still) after 7 years
                        Anyone can clearly see that I did indeed say exactly that, but unfortunately, your literacy is a problem since you now a second time have come here to ask me what I said.
                        Last edited by spacedog; 01-17-2009, 05:22 PM.

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                        • BV
                          wtf
                          • Sep 2001
                          • 10914

                          #57
                          Originally posted by spacedog
                          Anyone can clearly see that I did indeed say exactly that, but unfortunately, your literacy is a problem since you now a second time have come here to ask me what I said.

                          I'm just a sexy girl.

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                          • JD
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 22651

                            #58
                            imo flip the torrents with the xsales. People that use torrent never have and never will pay for porn.

                            Anyone that says tubes don't effect the industry in a massive way is insane.

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                            • Aussie Rebel
                              Blow Me U Geeks
                              • Aug 2001
                              • 5108

                              #59
                              Originally posted by BV
                              I'm just a sexy girl.
                              I gotta say, that was one of GFY's classic threads, I think Spacedog himself would have to admit that

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                              • Helix
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2002
                                • 6021

                                #60
                                There is no reason for the consumer to whip out the credit card for porn anymore. Why should they? everything is free!

                                Wake up and run your business like a business before it's too late. Take a lesson or two from the corporate world.

                                This business is packed to the gills with short sighted people (tube site operators that allow user uploads, torrents, forced cross sales, hidden cross sales etc..) that will either piss off the customer so they don't return or continue to give away free long length videos to the masses in hopes of gaining a few extra sales to cams/dating sites at the expense of the industry. In essence..they are willing to kill off any chance business longevity for a quick buck. Why would anybody pay for it if you can get it free?

                                Because the simpletons refuse to look past the next billing cycle, the only fix is to be self regulation possibly through some kind of an elected council and a return to censored tours/previews of old.
                                But...there would always be the cheaters. They would have to be shunned and nobody should work with them. Don't sell them content, hosting, etc..

                                Unfortunately this biz can't or won't do it. It is doomed to let greed and continued stupidity overrule common sense and ultimately this biz will consume itself. No government interaction needed.

                                I'm done venting....carry on.

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