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Should porn stars have children?

11-14-2002, 11:38 AM

Just think about it... one day the kid's going to be a teen, and they will probably have friends that watch porn movies / sites / whatever. Chances are someone will find out, and the kid will have no life at school... can you imagine how a kid would react if someone at school said they just saw their mother taking a 12" dick up the ass, or getting cummed on by a few dozen guys?

And what if the kid stumbles upon some porn featuring their mother...

Now, I'm not trying to pass judgement or anything. I'm just wondering about the practical implications of porn stars having children. I know I wouldn't like it if my mother starred in porn vids...

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11-14-2002, 11:40 AM

oh my god! mommy wasn't a virgin before she had me!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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11-14-2002, 11:40 AM

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I know I wouldn't like it if my mother starred in porn vids...

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11-14-2002, 11:41 AM

I look at it this way. If the girl is a porn star she is low class to begin with and her kids will be too. So whether she is a pornstar or not really wouldnt change the kids life. If anything it would be better since she would have more money.
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11-14-2002, 11:41 AM

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11-14-2002, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by SleazyDream
oh my god! mommy wasn't a virgin before she had me!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

There's a difference between not being a virgin and doing bukkake on video for the whole world to see.

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11-14-2002, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by SleazyDream
oh my god! mommy wasn't a virgin before she had me!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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11-14-2002, 11:43 AM

I guess this is where home schooling would come into affect

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11-14-2002, 11:43 AM

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They bust his mom on a German Shizah site.

Imagine that, google search for 'clitoris' and bam, you see your buddies mom getting shit on and scat fucked.

Imagine how the kids of the future will be using google to find dirty pics, I can only imagine what I would have been doing if I had Google at 10.

They will surely find the pics one day.... one would think anyhow.

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11-14-2002, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by punkworld
Just think about it... one day the kid's going to be a teen, and they will probably have friends that watch porn movies / sites / whatever. Chances are someone will find out, and the kid will have no life at school... can you imagine how a kid would react if someone at school said they just saw their mother taking a 12" dick up the ass, or getting cummed on by a few dozen guys?

And what if the kid stumbles upon some porn featuring their mother...

Now, I'm not trying to pass judgement or anything. I'm just wondering about the practical implications of porn stars having children. I know I wouldn't like it if my mother starred in porn vids...

Whats your deffinition of a "porn star" punkworld?

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11-14-2002, 11:48 AM

What about us, in saying us I mean the porn web masters / mistresses?

What does a kid say when going to school?

in the case of a porn star, if the porn star is smart and tells them something like "I'm an independant movie star" or "I'm a model" then that kid has the ability to look good in the eyes of his/her peers... and once they are teens... I would imagine not so much a downgrading from peers but something to the effect of "so when could I fuck your mother?" if the mother still looks good that is... yes it probably would be tramatizing but hey...

now in the case of the porn webmasters/mistresses, what does a kid say? my mommy or daddy is a web designer?... then the question arrises "what kind of web sites do they design? disney.com?" or "perhaps on career day/parent day your mommy or daddy could show the whole class how to make a web page." that could cause quite the conflict... yes it's easy to cover it up while they're small, but no matter what... it is harder to hide the facts when they know what porn is.

even though we are not participating in the act, we are still a part of the result...

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11-14-2002, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle

Good answer

Basically, when your kids get older, people in their high school will tell them all about how they saw you get fucked fourty different ways. When your kids reply with "Well your mom isn't a virgin either" that won't impress the other kids. Simple as that.
While I think there is nothing wrong with doing porn, I do think the kids might suffer severe bullying and such because of it.

Now, you may not see the happiness of your children as something worth seriously thinking about, but most people do. This will seriously affect their lives, and if you don't think of a good way to deal with it, it might have a large negative influence on them. (another question: when are you going to tell them you fuck on cam?)

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11-14-2002, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by Pharoh

even though we are not participating in the act, we are still a part of the result...

there is no logical reason to compare getting fucked on camera for 200 bucks and being a webmaster.

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11-14-2002, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by Pharoh
What about us, in saying us I mean the porn web masters / mistresses?

What does a kid say when going to school?

in the case of a porn star, if the porn star is smart and tells them something like "I'm an independant movie star" or "I'm a model" then that kid has the ability to look good in the eyes of his/her peers... and once they are teens... I would imagine not so much a downgrading from peers but something to the effect of "so when could I fuck your mother?" if the mother still looks good that is... yes it probably would be tramatizing but hey...

now in the case of the porn webmasters/mistresses, what does a kid say? my mommy or daddy is a web designer?... then the question arrises "what kind of web sites do they design? disney.com?" or "perhaps on career day/parent day your mommy or daddy could show the whole class how to make a web page." that could cause quite the conflict... yes it's easy to cover it up while they're small, but no matter what... it is harder to hide the facts when they know what porn is.

even though we are not participating in the act, we are still a part of the result...

Creating porn sites is less "visible" than being in porn. When someone visits a site owned by me, they won't think "Oh my god! Thomas made that thing!". With being in porn, it's something completely different.
Also, creating adult sites is less stigmatizing than being in porn. When I tell people I make porn sites, they usually don't react badly. When I tell them I've been in a few porn movies, they most often are completely shocked.

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11-14-2002, 11:57 AM

I am just wondering how one can call a Pornstare a LOW LIFE ,to me that is kind of fucked up , that is you are a webmaster here you are pushing them low lifes
so what would that make you ? and if it wasnt for those low lifes where would lot of us be today ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, DAMN SURE NOT HERE

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11-14-2002, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

there is no logical reason to compare getting fucked on camera for 200 bucks and being a webmaster.

c'mon.

think of it this way... you may be a crack dealer, but someone had to make it... and there's the comparison

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11-14-2002, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by punkworld

Basically, when your kids get older, people in their high school will tell them all about how they saw you get fucked fourty different ways. When your kids reply with "Well your mom isn't a virgin either" that won't impress the other kids. Simple as that.
While I think there is nothing wrong with doing porn, I do think the kids might suffer severe bullying and such because of it.

Now, you may not see the happiness of your children as something worth seriously thinking about, but most people do. This will seriously affect their lives, and if you don't think of a good way to deal with it, it might have a large negative influence on them. (another question: when are you going to tell them you fuck on cam?)

So what you're trying to say is that you think porn stars (male/ female) shouldn't have kids...correct?
I think that would eliminate alot of ppl bud

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11-14-2002, 11:59 AM

how about the question such as,,, "should presidents have children"
How do you think Chelsea Clinton feels each time she see's a Monica Lewinsky GOT MILK t-shirt? Or the website where you manipulate clintons dick to squirt monica in the face?

Some of you people are so fucking self rightous. You put down the pornstars, but then you sell them on your sites, Talk about double fucking standards.

There are people in EVERY walk of life who enjoy erotica, whether it be soft core or hardcore. As long as its legal ,, who gives a fuck.

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11-14-2002, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by punkworld

Creating porn sites is less "visible" than being in porn. When someone visits a site owned by me, they won't think "Oh my god! Thomas made that thing!". With being in porn, it's something completely different.
Also, creating adult sites is less stigmatizing than being in porn. When I tell people I make porn sites, they usually don't react badly. When I tell them I've been in a few porn movies, they most often are completely shocked.

I definately agree with you... I mean I don't post my name across my sites, but it's not hard to find out...

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11-14-2002, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by prostock
I am just wondering how one can call a Pornstare a LOW LIFE ,to me that is kind of fucked up , that is you are a webmaster here you are pushing them low lifes
so what would that make you ? and if it wasnt for those low lifes where would lot of us be today ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, DAMN SURE NOT HERE

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11-14-2002, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by prostock
I am just wondering how one can call a Pornstare a LOW LIFE ,to me that is kind of fucked up , that is you are a webmaster here you are pushing them low lifes
so what would that make you ? and if it wasnt for those low lifes where would lot of us be today ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, DAMN SURE NOT HERE

I'm not calling porn stars lowlifes. In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with doing porn. However, that does not cancel out any of pracrtical implications.

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11-14-2002, 12:05 PM

They have the same rights as the rest of the world. This should not even be a question. They have provided us with a very lucrative business, why should there parental rights be revoked or even questioned.

What about all the pedophiles that have kids
Crack heads and junkies
abusive parents etc.

Perhaps we should be more worried about that, then some one who choses to fuck for a living!

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11-14-2002, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by tree
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No she's not, she's a crack whore! LOL

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11-14-2002, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by SleazyDream
oh my god! mommy wasn't a virgin before she had me!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

It's a bit naive to suppose that there's no difference between the sexual fooling around most people do in private and doing it for publication.

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11-14-2002, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle

So what you're trying to say is that you think porn stars (male/ female) shouldn't have kids...correct?
I think that would eliminate alot of ppl bud

No, that's not what I'm trying to say. Please read before you react.

What I am saying is that being in porn might cause severe problems for the children, and I'm asking what the opinions of people on this board are. Also, I'd like to find out if there are good ways to deal with this, because it might not necessarily cause problems, when handled the right way.
If you read my post, you'll notice that I'm saying I've been in porn as well. I do, however, hope to have children one day. Unlike you, I realize this might cause problems, and am thinking of ways to handle those.

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11-14-2002, 12:08 PM

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I look at it this way. If the girl is a porn star she is low class to begin with and her kids will be too. So whether she is a pornstar or not really wouldnt change the kids life. If anything it would be better since she would have more money.

The self-loathing latent in this industry is one of the reasons I discourage models from turning the corner from nude posing into the fuck and suck arena.

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11-14-2002, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by Pharoh
What about us, in saying us I mean the porn web masters / mistresses?

What does a kid say when going to school?

in the case of a porn star, if the porn star is smart and tells them something like "I'm an independant movie star" or "I'm a model" then that kid has the ability to look good in the eyes of his/her peers... and once they are teens... I would imagine not so much a downgrading from peers but something to the effect of "so when could I fuck your mother?" if the mother still looks good that is... yes it probably would be tramatizing but hey...

now in the case of the porn webmasters/mistresses, what does a kid say? my mommy or daddy is a web designer?... then the question arrises "what kind of web sites do they design? disney.com?" or "perhaps on career day/parent day your mommy or daddy could show the whole class how to make a web page." that could cause quite the conflict... yes it's easy to cover it up while they're small, but no matter what... it is harder to hide the facts when they know what porn is.

even though we are not participating in the act, we are still a part of the result...

The porn industry is for adults, adults without children, and adults with grown up children. I really think it's a bad idea for people with kids who haven't left home.

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11-14-2002, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by Hot Tropical Babes
As long as its legal ,, who gives a fuck.

Children put in the unenviable position of having to explain or defend what their parents do, should have to do that of course, but they will be put in that position nevertheless, which is why I would urge people with children under college age in school to be in some other kind of business until they don't have kids around.

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11-14-2002, 12:14 PM

I think we should be more worried about the implications of people like the Enron dudes having kids or even our rich-off-of-foreign-oil-and-in-chargeofthewholefuckingcountrykillingthousandsofch ildrenamonth president and having his little shit children.

The world is what we make of it -- and part of the problem with our world is that we judge "whores" so harshly and legislate against them while we let the good ole boys run amock getting rich by exploiting others in more socially acceptable (read HARMFUL) ways, destroying the environment and the people in it.

That's really sad if Mommy's made a better living for herself and her family by getting her ass reamed out on film than if she'd have been the more respectable TEACHER or something like that . . . but she and her kid(s) will be stigmatized by it. LAME!

Personally I've never worried about my kids (if I ever have any) suffering because of my career as a webwhore. Kids suffer when their parents are stupid assholes and they can be found in every profession.

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11-14-2002, 12:17 PM

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11-14-2002, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by Trixie
I think we should be more worried about the implications of people like the Enron dudes having kids or even our rich-off-of-foreign-oil-and-in-chargeofthewholefuckingcountrykillingthousandsofch ildrenamonth president and having his little shit children.

The world is what we make of it -- and part of the problem with our world is that we judge "whores" so harshly and legislate against them while we let the good ole boys run amock getting rich by exploiting others in more socially acceptable (read HARMFUL) ways, destroying the environment and the people in it.

That's really sad if Mommy's made a better living for herself and her family by getting her ass reamed out on film than if she'd have been the more respectable TEACHER or something like that . . . but she and her kid(s) will be stigmatized by it. LAME!

Personally I've never worried about my kids (if I ever have any) suffering because of my career as a webwhore. Kids suffer when their parents are stupid assholes and they can be found in every profession.

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You are a retard.

First of all, this thread isn't about if porn people should be <b>allowed</b> to have children. Nor is it about if porn <b>should</b> be stigmatized. It is, and that's a fact, whether you like it or not.

Secondly, if you think worrying about the impact on your kids of you being a "webwhore" (your words, not mine) is nonsense, you probably would make the worst morther ever.

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11-14-2002, 12:23 PM

what a bunch of hypocrites....if pornstars shouldn´t have kids
than this industry would be dead within 2 decades...think about
that for a minute.....and what´s wrong of being a pornstar?

At least they are working for their money.....instead of so many
others that are just too lazy to work.....what about hookers?
Are hookers bad people....I don´t think so......I have respect for
women that are able and willing to take these jobs.....

there would be a whole lot of more rapes if there were no
hookers or porn....what about women that sleep around just
because they like it huh?

Come on this is just too crazy for words.....try it yourself one
time to do a job like that.....don´t forget these girls are also
making it possible for you to earn a living....a little respect
is something I think they deserve.......

bunch of hypocrite idiots!

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11-14-2002, 12:26 PM

I have heard a story of a amateur net couple.

Father and son are playing around in the living room.

Child fell and broke his arm, like any kid could or would.

Because of circumstances they were invetigated and as soon as they found out the couple worked online, they had a hell of a time getting their kids back.

And as far as I can tell through peers, the couple was a great o9lder couple, not a young camgirl site. Mature couple.

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11-14-2002, 12:28 PM

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Jesus Fucking Christ! That's the fourth fucking moron who completely missed the point!

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11-14-2002, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by punkworld

Jesus Fucking Christ! That's the fourth fucking moron who completely missed the point!

<h2>THIS ISN'T ABOUT IF BEING IN PORN IS GOOD OR NOT, IT'S ABOUT THE PRACTICAL IMPLICATIONS OF PEOPLE BEING IN PORN HAVING CHILDREN</h2>

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11-14-2002, 12:32 PM

...pornstars should not be allowed to have sex and therefore they can´t have children ... question answered ?
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11-14-2002, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by Hot Tropical Babes

A bit too much coffee today?

Yes, actually. And coffee doesn't combine well with people completely missing the point and posting shit about a completely different question.

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11-14-2002, 12:34 PM

Yeah, I'm a retard. Since you're pointing out what this thread is and isn't about -- well it's also not about whether or not Trixie would make the worst mother ever, dumbass!!

Sure, there will be negative implications for the kid(s) -- I don't think that's "nonsense" -- but I think it's ridiculous to give that external negativity the power influence a woman NOT to have kids . . . the fewer people there are buying into that kind of bullshit, the better it will be for everyone.

Part of being a parent is raising your kid to deal with adversity, deal with stupid people, etc. . . . isn't it?

Is there also a thread in here about whether or not same-sex couples should have kids?? Because this is basically the same conversation. . .

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11-14-2002, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by punkworld

Jesus Fucking Christ! That's the fourth fucking moron who completely missed the point!

<h2>THIS ISN'T ABOUT IF BEING IN PORN IS GOOD OR NOT, IT'S ABOUT THE PRACTICAL IMPLICATIONS OF PEOPLE BEING IN PORN HAVING CHILDREN</h2>

Oh for fuck's sake!!! Can YOU NOT READ THE COCKSUCKING QUESTION POSED IN THE ORIGINAL POST??? It says, "Should porn stars have children?" Why can't you allow the people who answer "yes" to justify their opinion??

Yes, there are consequences - maybe the kids will get ridiculed. And if Daddy is a soldier he might come home in a body bag, does that mean he shouldn't have kids at all? Or if Mommy is a teacher at the kid's school, kid might get beat up when Mommy fails the school bully so maybe Mommy shouldn't have had kids in the first place??

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11-14-2002, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by Trixie
Part of being a parent is raising your kid to deal with adversity, deal with stupid people, etc. . . . isn't it?

Finally, an on-topic reply. Now, this would indeed be a way to deal with the problem. Now, what I was wondering about and what I have been talking about all along is how this can be done, and if this is sufficient for the kid's quality of living.

Originally posted by Trixie
Sure, there will be negative implications for the kid(s) -- I don't think that's "nonsense"

You think there will be negative implications for the kids yet you say you think it's nonsense to seriously think about them?

Originally posted by Trixie
Since you're pointing out what this thread is and isn't about -- well it's also not about whether or not Trixie would make the worst mother ever, dumbass!!

You were making an attack on something which I didn't even say. I was making an attack on something you did say.
See the difference?

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11-14-2002, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by Trixie
Why can't you allow the people who answer "yes" to justify their opinion??

Because from their replies, it shows they are answering an entirely different question. Actually, they are all attacking a statement which hasn't been made and which has very little to do with the matter.

If people are attacking me based on a statement I didn't make, I get pissed off. (especially after a lot of coffee)

An example on a different matter:

If I were to ask

"Should I walk around in dark alleys while waving lots of money around?"

A reply saying

"You are a fucking criminal because you think robbers should rule the streets! The streets should be safe for anyone!"

would be about as relevant as the opinions posted here.

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11-14-2002, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by punkworld
No, that's not what I'm trying to say. Please read before you react.

You will have to overlook pink_in_the_middle because she has a major reading comprehension problem.

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11-14-2002, 12:55 PM

Why don't they just home school? Then they wouldn't have to worry about the other kids worrying about what they do for a living.
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11-14-2002, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by punkworld

(especially after a lot of coffee)

I am glad you brought that point back up, I would of hated to have to remind you again LMAO

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11-14-2002, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by Jamdin
Why don't they just home school? Then they wouldn't have to worry about the other kids worrying about what they do for a living.

I had that same thought Jam

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11-14-2002, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by UnseenWorld

The porn industry is for adults, adults without children, and adults with grown up children. I really think it's a bad idea for people with kids who haven't left home.

A sensible person out of the many without sensibility.

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11-14-2002, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by Trixie
Yes, there are consequences - maybe the kids will get ridiculed. And if Daddy is a soldier he might come home in a body bag, does that mean he shouldn't have kids at all? Or if Mommy is a teacher at the kid's school, kid might get beat up when Mommy fails the school bully so maybe Mommy shouldn't have had kids in the first place??

Ah, another relevant post

You have a point here, however, should parents think of their children when choosing / changing their carreers? For instance, I can imagine a mother or father not wanting to teach at the same school their kid goes to.
Also, shouldn't parents take steps to prepare their children for the effects of this, or find ways to minimize the problems?

Besides that, another example would be two people both working 80+ hours a week. Should they have children, even though their never being around will most likely have a very severe impact on the kids?

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11-14-2002, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by DynaSpain
what a bunch of hypocrites....if pornstars shouldn´t have kids
than this industry would be dead within 2 decades...think about
that for a minute.....and what´s wrong of being a pornstar?

At least they are working for their money.....instead of so many
others that are just too lazy to work.....what about hookers?
Are hookers bad people....I don´t think so......I have respect for
women that are able and willing to take these jobs.....

there would be a whole lot of more rapes if there were no
hookers or porn....what about women that sleep around just
because they like it huh?

Come on this is just too crazy for words.....try it yourself one
time to do a job like that.....don´t forget these girls are also
making it possible for you to earn a living....a little respect
is something I think they deserve.......

bunch of hypocrite idiots!

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11-14-2002, 01:10 PM

I was just thinking how it would be to have a kid of a porn star in high school. Poor kids, damn I would prefer to be kid of a gangster than.... I cannot even put this sentence together.
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11-14-2002, 01:17 PM

punkworld, yes there is definately going to be negative actions for the children, yes it definately is something to take into serious consideration... but the problem is that not only being a porn star causes such negative actions... as was said mommy or daddy being a teacher could cause even more of an issue...

to deal with it you teach your child to defend him/herself Intelligently and swiftly... my advise is put the child through martial arts this will teach alot more than fighting, but learning to defend ones self isn't a bad thing... and when the child is old enough to comprehend and understand exactly what is going on, explain it to them...

if someone doesn't believe that they can share what they do with their family then maybe they should rethink the business they're in... if you're proud of what you do and don't care what others think, then why not do it?

when/if you have a child just remember, that as long as you teach them right and be open with them you should have a good standing relationship and this issue will not blind side them in home room when a kid says "hey my mom/dad has a porn your mom/dad was in"

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