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Old 11-14-2002, 03:27 PM   #51
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hmmm should porn stars have kids?

why not?

we let everyone else have kids
if we stop porn stars from having kids why not expand it a little at stop these people also

drug dealers
junkies
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stupid people (some people shouldnt breed!!)
people from arkansas (they are all inbreed anyways)
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Old 11-14-2002, 03:29 PM   #52
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when/if you have a child just remember, that as long as you teach them right and be open with them you should have a good standing relationship and this issue will not blind side them in home room when a kid says "hey my mom/dad has a porn your mom/dad was in"
To my disgrace, I was a pretty big bully once, and I know it wouldn't work that way... it would be more along the lines of someone getting told his mother is a slut/whore/etc several times a day, and stuff like the kid being called thrash etc.
Kids can be cruel, and stuff like this will be some of the best ammo availble to those that want to hurt someone. And no matter how rational or open a kid is, their mother being called a whore would most likely hurt more than anything.
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Old 11-14-2002, 03:31 PM   #53
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stupid people (some people shouldnt breed!!)
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Old 11-14-2002, 03:56 PM   #54
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Ah, another relevant post

You have a point here, however, should parents think of their children when choosing / changing their carreers? For instance, I can imagine a mother or father not wanting to teach at the same school their kid goes to.
Also, shouldn't parents take steps to prepare their children for the effects of this, or find ways to minimize the problems?

Besides that, another example would be two people both working 80+ hours a week. Should they have children, even though their never being around will most likely have a very severe impact on the kids?
Ah punk . . . you are sweet! Perhaps I was defensive and over-simplifying thinking it was just a bunch of webmasters in here (not a bunch of "porn stars" wanting to have a serious discussion about childrearing).

I'm not a porn star either so I could probably successfully hide my "career" anyway. That's a good question though . . . how the hell would you prepare them for going over to their friend's house and popping in one of daddy's pornos . . . would you show him/her a movie first yourself to "prepare" him/her? Yikes!!

Who am I kidding? You're right Punk, I'd probably be a bad mother not only because of my whoring around, but because I'd want to go beat people who mocked my child and his dirty momma!
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Old 11-14-2002, 04:41 PM   #55
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Why should they not have children.
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Old 11-14-2002, 04:48 PM   #56
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Only people that should have kids are those that can financially take care of them without any government assistance.
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Old 11-14-2002, 05:08 PM   #57
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The porn industry is for adults, adults without children, and adults with grown up children. I really think it's a bad idea for people with kids who haven't left home.
Yes, the porn industry IS strictly for adults, but adults without children?? I strongly disagree, for responsible stay at home parents the adult on-line industry is a godsend
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Old 11-14-2002, 05:31 PM   #58
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Statistically most people should never spawn.

But I guess we gotta roll the dice and hope 1 in 100k shoots out a kid that isn't a total waste of skin.

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Old 11-14-2002, 06:55 PM   #59
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No, that's not what I'm trying to say. Please read before you react.
When you speak of only the negatives you are implying it is wrong.
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Unlike you, I realize this might cause problems, and am thinking of ways to handle those.
Do you think I havent weigh out every factor before we started this business..

We did very heavily , that is why I take stuff like this so damn seriously. I take every precaution to ensure my children are sheltered from my profession .

Very few people know what we do , and that is the way it has to be for us. We are young parents and becasue we are ,we're already scrutinized..
We are under the fucking microscope, imagine your reaction to seeing two " almost teen " parents with 3 kids.

The fact is that porn is so contraversial , that even the people who live by it , and work in it , shun it and thinks its taboo . So there will never be any aggrement to topics like this.

There is no profession that makes you a better or worse parent .. so long as its legal and you are putting food on the table.
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Old 11-14-2002, 07:10 PM   #61
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Yes, the porn industry IS strictly for adults, but adults without children?? I strongly disagree, for responsible stay at home parents the adult on-line industry is a godsend
As Chesire would say "CAN I GET AN AMEN"
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Old 11-14-2002, 07:14 PM   #62
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I'm directing a play out of New York called 'Jesus Christ Pornstar'. It's about a kid in the biz.
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Old 11-14-2002, 07:28 PM   #63
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When you speak of only the negatives you are implying it is wrong.
Actually, no. By speaking of the negatives, I indicate I see problems with it. By asking a question, I ask for points of view on the matter and possible other factors that play a part in the matter. If I wanted to make a statement, I would have made a statement, not asked a question.
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Old 11-14-2002, 07:42 PM   #64
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Do you think I havent weigh out every factor before we started this business..

We did very heavily , that is why I take stuff like this so damn seriously. I take every precaution to ensure my children are sheltered from my profession .

Very few people know what we do , and that is the way it has to be for us. We are young parents and becasue we are ,we're already scrutinized..
We are under the fucking microscope, imagine your reaction to seeing two " almost teen " parents with 3 kids.

The fact is that porn is so contraversial , that even the people who live by it , and work in it , shun it and thinks its taboo . So there will never be any aggrement to topics like this.

There is no profession that makes you a better or worse parent .. so long as its legal and you are putting food on the table.
Honestly, I think you're being a bit naive here. Everybody knows how quickly rumors spread, and a site which gets good traffic will eventually most likely be seen by somebody that knows you. Or, someone who knows about it will talk about it to someone else. Most secrets do not last.

Now, you talk about sheltering your children. Does that mean you will never tell them about it? Because if that's the case, if they do find out, it will hit them pretty hard (especially since you tried to keep it a secret). On the other hand, if you do tell them, they will most likely talk about it with someone. Chances are that someone will be just as bad at keeping secrets as the rest of the world, especially when considering how teen friendships usually come and go at a pretty fast rate.

A profession is not what makes you a good or bad parent, however, the things concerning your children you take into consideration when choosing a profession is one of the things that make you a good or bad parent. For instance, someone who chooses a profession which costs a lot of time and thus can't spend enough time with their children could very well be considered a bad parent.

Maybe you have chosen a good way to deal with the situation, maybe not... only time will tell. I hope for your children's sake you have.
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Old 11-14-2002, 07:54 PM   #65
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AS a mother I would never be in a porn movie or display my pictures on the net. That would just be so unfair to my child. Yes I work as an adult webmaster. But I don't fuck for money. There are certain values I want my daughter to have and think that displaying yourself or selling yourself for money is okay is not a value I want her to have.


I'm not sure if I will tell my daughter I am an Adult Webmaster. I will probably just say that I do one of the other jobs I do online. Maybe when she is an adult I might tell her.

I don't think the intention of the thread was that all women who are pornstars shouldn't have children. But I wonder if the women who have done this have considered what the future could hold as their children get older. It would be absolutely horrifying for a child to see their mother in a porn movie. But then again maybe these children are being raised with different values. Everyone has their own values. If their children have those same values maybe they won't see anything wrong with their mother being a pornstar.

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Old 11-14-2002, 08:07 PM   #66
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Wow, and I always thought there were special schools for pornstar kids...
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AS a mother I would never be in a porn movie or display my pictures on the net. That would just be so unfair to my child. Yes I work as an adult webmaster. But I don't fuck for money. There are certain values I want my daughter to have and think that displaying yourself or selling yourself for money is okay is not a value I want her to have.


I'm not sure if I will tell my daughter I am an Adult Webmaster. I will probably just say that I do one of the other jobs I do online. Maybe when she is an adult I might tell her.

I don't think the intention of the thread was that all women who are pornstars shouldn't have children. But I wonder if the women who have done this have considered what the future could hold as their children get older. It would be absolutely horrifying for a child to see their mother in a porn movie. But then again maybe these children are being raised with different values. Everyone has their own values. If their children have those same values maybe they won't see anything wrong with their mother being a pornstar.
i bet u could find a gaggle of psychologists who would tell u that ur kids growing up with this would be the equivalent of sexual or emotional abuse.

well put

the real question is should ninjas have kids, if they are prone to flipping out and going nuts?

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Punkworld do you have kids?
This is not directed at anybody in particular.

A person without kids shouldn't judge someone with kids.
Do you honestly not think that we try our best to make the right choices?
Really think on this one.
I have many little and big lives I have to think about. Yes I will and do hide it from my kids and when their are old enough to understand I will probably tell them. Thats my choice. There will always be someone out there to judge others about how they live their lives. Thats their (meaning everyone who has a problem with it) problem to deal with.


For those of you who don't have kids I don't know if you realize this but being a parent doesn't come with a manual. We make mistakes just like you and everybody else out there.

We learn from them, hopefully this will not "hurt" my kids...maybe it will..maybe it won't. Who knows only time will tell. That might seem like a stupid way to look at it but thats the truth.

Do ppl understand how much you (ppl) have to work at a ( "normal" ) job do give your family what they NEED?

I feel kinda bad for the ppl who do work those "normal" jobs. They don't get as much time with their kids as needed. I can spend as much time as I please with my kids and as often as I want because I work at home.

We (ppl with kids)as parents do or try to do our best for our kids, that's all we can do. If we work too many hours then we're considered "bad" parents, if we slap our kids on the bum we're "bad" parents whatever it is we (ppl with kids) will always have to answer to someone.

Thats just life,we can't see into the future and if we could then it would make life alot easier.

Thats all I have to say on this topic.If you want to discus it any further with me hit me up on icq.
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A profession is not what makes you a good or bad parent, however, the things concerning your children you take into consideration when choosing a profession is one of the things that make you a good or bad parent. For instance, someone who chooses a profession which costs a lot of time and thus can't spend enough time with their children could very well be considered a bad parent.
I'm just curious punk (since you mentioned you were a big bully as a youth and that you weren't proud of it) -- how responsible were your parents for that? What did your parents do for work and do you think that contributed to your bullying behavior? Seriously . . . I'm just curious here.
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I'm just curious punk (since you mentioned you were a big bully as a youth and that you weren't proud of it) -- how responsible were your parents for that? What did your parents do for work and do you think that contributed to your bullying behavior? Seriously . . . I'm just curious here.
Actually, the reason for it was that I was the strongest kid in high school and most girls seemed to react pretty well to a bad boy type of image. Getting laid usually is a good enough incentive for just about anything for most teen boys. Nothing to do with my parents though.
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A person without kids shouldn't judge someone with kids.
pink, I do not judge you, nor do I think you are necessarily a bad parent just because you work in porn. I do, however, think working in porn can bring along severe risks for your children, and I am wondering how you deal with those. I do wish for the best for both you and your children, and I honestly hope you have chosen the right way to deal with this.
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Overall, it would be better for children not to be exposed to a climate where the mother's profession is pornstar. I think its every parent's responsiblity to make sure that their child is raised in a suiteable environment, an environment that can defend their safety. This is very important especially for young children who lack the "mature" defenses.

There is no law against pornstars having children, so they are free to have them - however, as the job of the parent brings with it alot of potential problems, it is imperative that they think twice before making that big step. And obviously this is a rule for every future parent.
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and who are we to decide? oh forgot......pornographers
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