Israel enters Gaza..

[biskoppen]

The invasion has begun it seems

[dropped9]

so?????????????

[The Duck]

[HouseHead]

now thats crazy

[biskoppen]

Originally Posted by Headless

so?????????????

Shut up, you're headless

[jmcb420]

just more shit..........that is not good for anyone. It sucks that the only thing that will bring peace to that area is thr extermination of one side of the other.

[EscortBiz]

amazing how deep seeded aniti semitism in this country, if this would be any other nation no one would have a problem but it is the jews trying to defend themselves so everyone is up in arms.

No one even reads facts, all you need to know is that its jews being attacked and fighting back and your ready to yell at the jews to stop.

Those terrorists hide out between innocent people and Israel has no choice anymore, so when israel fights back they start crying and yelling and begging the world to ask israel to stop.

To best describe this situation in baby terms, its like when a smaller kid keeps kicking a bigger kid but the bigger kid ignores for a while hoping the smaller kid will stop, but the smaller kid dont stop so finally the bigger kid after getting bruised and hurt gives the smaller kid a few small smacks in hopes to quiet the small kid down, the small kid starts crying and yelling for help and most who dont know details are outraged on the bigboy and tell him what are you nuts, but then a few weeks go by and again the smaller kid starts again this time hurting the bigger kid even more and againg the above repeats and this goes on for decades until the big kid says once and for all im gonna smack the living hell out of this fucker and attempt to live my life normal, the problem is when he does that he will once again be yelled at by idiots who do not understand the pain he went thru for years on end.

I sure hope once and for all peace is made there and it will only be made by seriously ridding of people who just want to fight all fucking day, and for sure as shit even the biggest anti semite will tell you the jews dont start this shit

[Violetta]

More dead people...

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

amazing how deep seeded aniti semitism in this country, if this would be any other nation no one would have a problem but it is the jews trying to defend themselves so everyone is up in arms.

No one even reads facts, all you need to know is that its jews being attacked and fighting back and your ready to yell at the jews to stop.

Those terrorists hide out between innocent people and Israel has no choice anymore, so when israel fights back they start crying and yelling and begging the world to ask israel to stop.

To best describe this situation in baby terms, its like when a smaller kid keeps kicking a bigger kid but the bigger kid ignores for a while hoping the smaller kid will stop, but the smaller kid dont stop so finally the bigger kid after getting bruised and hurt gives the smaller kid a few small smacks in hopes to quiet the small kid down, the small kid starts crying and yelling for help and most who dont know details are outraged on the bigboy and tell him what are you nuts, but then a few weeks go by and again the smaller kid starts again this time hurting the bigger kid even more and againg the above repeats and this goes on for decades until the big kid says once and for all im gonna smack the living hell out of this fucker and attempt to live my life normal, the problem is when he does that he will once again be yelled at by idiots who do not understand the pain he went thru for years on end.

I sure hope once and for all peace is made there and it will only be made by seriously ridding of people who just want to fight all fucking day, and for sure as shit even the biggest anti semite will tell you the jews dont start this shit

very well said, even though I didnt read it till end

I agree.

[PBX]

Hmmm... This mixed with those Yellowstone quakes puts some pretty good doomsday ideas in my head. Might be interesting.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

amazing how deep seeded aniti semitism in this country, if this would be any other nation no one would have a problem but it is the jews trying to defend themselves so everyone is up in arms.

Error...

Weren't you around for the outrage of Russia invading the poor defenseless Georgia ???

The sad thruth is that the anti-semite label is applied to anyone that doesn't support the zionists

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

amazing how deep seeded aniti semitism in this country, if this would be any other nation no one would have a problem but it is the jews trying to defend themselves so everyone is up in arms.

No one even reads facts, all you need to know is that its jews being attacked and fighting back and your ready to yell at the jews to stop.

Those terrorists hide out between innocent people and Israel has no choice anymore, so when israel fights back they start crying and yelling and begging the world to ask israel to stop.

To best describe this situation in baby terms, its like when a smaller kid keeps kicking a bigger kid but the bigger kid ignores for a while hoping the smaller kid will stop, but the smaller kid dont stop so finally the bigger kid after getting bruised and hurt gives the smaller kid a few small smacks in hopes to quiet the small kid down, the small kid starts crying and yelling for help and most who dont know details are outraged on the bigboy and tell him what are you nuts, but then a few weeks go by and again the smaller kid starts again this time hurting the bigger kid even more and againg the above repeats and this goes on for decades until the big kid says once and for all im gonna smack the living hell out of this fucker and attempt to live my life normal, the problem is when he does that he will once again be yelled at by idiots who do not understand the pain he went thru for years on end.

I sure hope once and for all peace is made there and it will only be made by seriously ridding of people who just want to fight all fucking day, and for sure as shit even the biggest anti semite will tell you the jews dont start this shit

I dident expect you to post something as factual wrong as this. I dotn know what is your source of information, but its fucked up on so many levels.

Dont come fucking calling me a anti semite, just because I don't agree with the Jews on this topic. Pulling that "anti semite" bullshit card is downright naive and stupid, and it surprices me you are that kind of person

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

I dident expect you to post something as factual wrong as this. I dotn know what is your source of information, but its fucked up on so many levels.

Dont come fucking calling me a anti semite, just because I don't agree with the Jews on this topic. Pulling that "anti semite" bullshit card is downright naive and stupid, and it surprices me you are that kind of person

Give me one valid reason just one on why if people attack you non stop you dont have the right to defend yourself, do you know the history of Israel, on how when they didnt defend themselves (simply because they where not able to) they lost their land, this has been going on for 1000's of years.

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Error...

Weren't you around for the outrage of Russia invading the poor defenseless Georgia ???

The sad thruth is that the anti-semite label is applied to anyone that doesn't support the zionists

How can you compare the Georgia situation to this, georgia promised to stop attacking but the russians wouldnt let go

Yes its hatred towards jews some have here its nothing new

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Weren't you around for the outrage of Russia invading the poor defenseless Georgia ???

incomparable..

Palestine is not a state, basically it does not exist.. its just a kind of "autonomy" very limited and without stable borders..

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

Give me one valid reason just one on why if people attack you non stop you dont have the right to defend yourself, do you know the history of Israel, on how when they didnt defend themselves (simply because they where not able to) they lost their land, this has been going on for 1000's of years.

I can give you many, but the easy answer is that what you just said, can be said exactly the same way if you were a palestinian


I know their history. I know how Israel was created by taking it from someone who had no say in the matter what so ever. I know the history of a nation called Israel that Nato and US have protected blindly

Israel have gotten away with boxing in a whole group of people behind a big concrete wall. They are starving a group of people to DEATH because they dont like the leaders they have elected.

They tried to make this about a rocket that have killed a israeli soldier. Israel have killed many times more CIVILIANS than that over the years. You are blinded my the media spin.

Why do you think they shoot rockets over the fence? because Israel have denied them food and water or even the simple right to go outside the fence.

How exactly do you think any group of people would react if you put them behind a wall and cut off the food supplies? Israel wont even allow the US to enter with food to the starving people inside.

The jewish kept building new settelments in areas that were handed to the palestines.
And not even mentioning the Lebanon incident last year, where Israel refused to withdraw as pr the peace agreement.

[yys]

Hopefully they don't stop until they've beaten the will to fight out of Hamas or killed every last one of them.

[Si]

I hope they flatten the shit hole!

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

incomparable..

Palestine is not a state, basically it does not exist.. its just a kind of "autonomy" very limited and without stable borders..

No surprise ... what ever suits your agenda ....

OK, so Jews are allowed to defend themselves because rockets are fired in their territory from an unexistent territory ... ( btw, they are, but with restraint ).

So Iraqis are justified to attacks americans that bombed their country ... oups, that is also different ...

..And Iran would be following your attack on their territory ....

[onwebcam]

Beginning of WWIII.

[roly]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

Give me one valid reason just one on why if people attack you non stop you dont have the right to defend yourself, do you know the history of Israel, on how when they didnt defend themselves (simply because they where not able to) they lost their land, this has been going on for 1000's of years.

how do you feel about the blockade of food, fuel and medicine that was imposed, don't you think that provokes things a little?

[EscortBiz]

Same people here against Israel are same who think 9/11 was ok too or that the US Gov. is the one who was behind it or maybe even Israel.

Plain and simple, normal humans dont look for reasons to kill other humans, when you find humans that simply want to terrorize people regardless of what you give them they are called terrorists and normal people will understand that its right to get rid of terrorist because they make this planet very unstable.

Then you have the anti semites who rarely admit they are jew haters but thats what it is, like people who hate blacks will come up with reasons on why they hate blacks even thou they hate them because they hate them no real reason.

Israel wants to live peaceful and we all know they tried so many times, but so many want to see Israel dead, if israel was some poor peoples country and they had shit noone would care, but they are rich and powerful and getting more powerful daily and I hope this conflict does end

[Matyko]

There's no other option except for spreading huge amounts of pure LSD onto all those territories, infecting all water in the area.
</joking>
The most sad thing is that I see zero chance of constant peace there in the near future... Please tell me I am wrong about this!

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Beginning of WWIII.

Arab cavemen vs Western World would be more like a 2 day war than a World War.

[sunrise_industries]

facts are simple .... In 2 years Palestine have killed less than 20 Israelians .... in the past 2 weeks Israel have killed over 400 Palestines

The real fact here is Israel are doing this FAST as they know when Obama gets into power they will not get the US support to do this....... as without the US support Israel are just another small nation. If Iran were nice and diplomaic with the US Israel would be under serious pressue.

I met a few US soldiers who downed Israeli uniforms with the 67 war ..... so without the US Israel would NOT exist...... so with Bushes last days alot needs to be done

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by roly

how do you feel about the blockade of food, fuel and medicine that was imposed, don't you think that provokes things a little?

Not too long ago a so called ship that was carrying food and water and aid for to Palestine was stopped and on the ship was missles etc.

Just like Hamas militant hide in innocent peoples homes, tons of the so called aid ships are full of missiles etc, these people are great actors and know how to cry and yell as if they are some innocent bunch, dont be fooled.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by sunrise_industries

facts are simple .... In 2 years Palestine have killed less than 20 Israelians .... in the past 2 weeks Israel have killed over 400 Palestines

The real fact here is Israel are doing this FAST as they know when Obama gets into power they will not get the US support to do this....... as without the US support Israel are just another small nation. If Iran were nice and diplomaic with the US Israel would be under serious pressue.

I met a few US soldiers who downed Israeli uniforms with the 67 war ..... so without the US Israel would NOT exist...... so with Bushes last days alot needs to be done

You're kidding me, right?

Obama has already stated he's more or less behind current policy regarding Israel.

[sunrise_industries]

one must remember here the Palestines are people as well and nice people at that.... before 1946 Israel did NOT exist so this is / was a problem based on land devision which needs to be solved and solved right

why cant they all live happily ever area and open all broders and call it something new like IPG ..... short for Israel , Palestine and Gaza ..... and have one HUGE party

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by sunrise_industries

facts are simple .... In 2 years Palestine have killed less than 20 Israelians .... in the past 2 weeks Israel have killed over 400 Palestines

The real fact here is Israel are doing this FAST as they know when Obama gets into power they will not get the US support to do this....... as without the US support Israel are just another small nation. If Iran were nice and diplomaic with the US Israel would be under serious pressue.

I met a few US soldiers who downed Israeli uniforms with the 67 war ..... so without the US Israel would NOT exist...... so with Bushes last days alot needs to be done

Do you know anything about the 6 month peace deal that just ended, I mean seriously stop saying the word fact when the only fact is you are talking right out of your ass.

Do you have any clue about the IDF, I mean read up on what they have and the technology they have they are not some small BS military, its like after your server crashes the next time around you really gear up with every backup possible, Israel was destroyed in the past this time they made sure they have whats needed to destroy anyone who attempts to destroy it.

As far as Obama goes, well we will have to see about that since he made no clear comments.

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

Not too long ago a so called ship that was carrying food and water and aid for to Palestine was stopped and on the ship was missles etc.

Just like Hamas militant hide in innocent peoples homes, tons of the so called aid ships are full of missiles etc, these people are great actors and know how to cry and yell as if they are some innocent bunch, dont be fooled.

Palestine is a not allowd to have weapons? says who?

If the Hamas militants were living all in one place, what do you think would happen to that place? dont you think it would be gassed or burned by now?

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

No surprise ... what ever suits your agenda ....

OK, so Jews are allowed to defend themselves because rockets are fired in their territory from an unexistent territory ... ( btw, they are, but with restraint ).

So Iraqis are justified to attacks americans that bombed their country ... oups, that is also different ...

..And Iran would be following your attack on their territory ....

I am pretty sure you have no fucking clue of the map...

Israel=state (internationally accepted)
Palestine=teritory hoping to become a state (impossible with the terorists), sharing the land with israel

understand?

America in Iraq? I dont see any connection with Israel defending their land. You speak like there are not american forces around the whole world, lol

You obviously only see the sad pictures in TV... if its not on CNN it is not happenning

[Allformyspace]

Originally Posted by mobilefun1987

I hope they flatten the shit hole!

Ditto!!!

[sunrise_industries]

also one HUGE problem here is all media we hear and see is all owned by Jewish infleuenced businesses ..... we hear so little about real fact about Palestine people .... so all our views are so biased in the first place.

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by sunrise_industries

one must remember here the Palestines are people as well and nice people at that.... before 1946 Israel did NOT exist so this is / was a problem based on land devision which needs to be solved and solved right

why cant they all live happily ever area and open all broders and call it something new like IPG ..... short for Israel , Palestine and Gaza ..... and have one HUGE party

100% this is not an attack on arabs or muslims or Palestinians this is an attack on terrorists and every element of terrorism is the opposite of what Islam is about.

[yys]

Originally Posted by sunrise_industries

facts are simple .... In 2 years Palestine have killed less than 20 Israelians .... in the past 2 weeks Israel have killed over 400 Palestines

The real fact here is Israel are doing this FAST as they know when Obama gets into power they will not get the US support to do this....... as without the US support Israel are just another small nation. If Iran were nice and diplomaic with the US Israel would be under serious pressue.

I met a few US soldiers who downed Israeli uniforms with the 67 war ..... so without the US Israel would NOT exist...... so with Bushes last days alot needs to be done

So what? If they launched one rocket at Israel then they have it coming. It a fucking joke listening to people talk about proportional response.

Someone wrote something along these lines the other day and I couldn't agree more.

Pack your family into a house without the ability to leave. Then have someone come along a varying times during the day, every day, and fire 40-50 bullets into your home. You'd be singing a different fucking tune pretty fast regardless of whether one of your family members was killed or not. There would be nothing proportional about the response you would demand.

[kektex]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Arab cavemen vs Western World would be more like a 2 day war than a World War.

The same way the war was "won" in Iraq a couple of years ago?

Never underestimate the strength of an enemy that is fighting out of pure blind faith or hatred.

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

Palestine is a not allowd to have weapons? says who?

If the Hamas militants were living all in one place, what do you think would happen to that place? dont you think it would be gassed or burned by now?

If you cant understand Hamas a organazation labeled a terrorist group by both the United States and the European Union should not be able to have weapons then seriously something is wrong with you.

"I can explain it to you but I cannot understand it for you" Fmr NYC Mayor Ed Koch

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by kektex

The same way the war was "won" in Iraq a couple of years ago?

Never underestimate the strength of an enemy that is fighting out of pure blind faith or hatred.

Dont' be silly. Iraq, one of the World's largest millitarys was crushed in a week.

There's a huge difference between destroying and occupying a country.

[kektex]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

If you cant understand Hamas a organazation labeled a terrorist group by both the United States and the European Union should not be able to have weapons then seriously something is wrong with you.

"I can explain it to you but I cannot understand it for you" Fmr NYC Mayor Ed Koch

Yeah, because the US is a perfectly neutral party in the conflict.

I'm not saying I support Hamas, but when you see and read about all the atrocities commited by Israel against the palestinians, it's no wonder most people do not support Israel. It's not about being anti-semitic.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by sunrise_industries

why cant they all live happily ever area and open all broders and call it something new like IPG ..... short for Israel , Palestine and Gaza ..... and have one HUGE party

Well.. it was always muslims causing problems in this region, not Jews, muslims just cant stand that Jewish Israel was established, accepted and got stronger in a few years and those palestinian idiots were not able to get a stable government, talk about peace and fuck off their terorists.

Israel kicked ass to Egypt, Syria but they cant do that to Palestine as it does not exist as a state, its just a teritory

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

Not too long ago a so called ship that was carrying food and water and aid for to Palestine was stopped and on the ship was missles etc.
dont be fooled.

care to share a link to your urban legend .... same link as WMD .....

Maybe you mean this big fucking ship:



Activists trying to bring aid to Gaza today claimed their boat had been rammed by Israeli gunboats in a "criminal attack" in international waters.

The Free Gaza Movement said its vessel, the Dignity, was intercepted by several Israeli ships as it headed to the Gaza Strip, which has been under Israeli aerial bombardment since Saturday.

One gunboat rammed the Dignity on the port bow side, causing heavy damage, although no one was hurt, the group said.

"When attacked, the Dignity was clearly in international waters, 90 miles off the coast of Gaza," the group said on its website. "The gunboats also fired their machine guns into the water in an attempt to stop the mercy ship from getting to Gaza.

"Israel thumbs its nose in the face of maritime law by attacking a human rights boat in international waters and has put all of these human rights observers at risk.

"At no time was the Dignity ever close to Israeli waters. They clearly identified themselves, and the Israeli attack was wilful and criminal."

The group said the attack took place as the Dignity carried 16 passengers and three tonnes of medical supplies at the request of doctors in Gaza.

The crew and passengers had hoped to treat some of those injured in four days of the Israeli air strikes, with hospitals in the territory overwhelmed.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...-gaza-aid-ship


Attacks in International waters, banning of International reporters in the Gaza strip ... nice!

[kektex]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Dont' be silly. Iraq, one of the World's largest millitarys was crushed in a week.

There's a huge difference between destroying and occupying a country.

Yeah, but you said that the war would be over in 2 days. The war wasn't over in Iraq that fast was it?
Some people would say it's not over yet...

[EscortBiz]

directfiesta you hate jews, you hate anything related to any sort of govt. or order and hate anyone who is in the right, you are a waste of time to talk to, its like arguing with a KKK member that was born and bread to hate

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by yys

Pack your family into a house without the ability to leave. Then have someone come along a varying times during the day, every day, and fire 40-50 bullets into your home. You'd be singing a different fucking tune pretty fast regardless of whether one of your family members was killed or not. There would be nothing proportional about the response you would demand.

Sounds like what is happening.... aint it ???? and add to your story that they also took half the house to lodge their own family ....

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

If you cant understand Hamas a organazation labeled a terrorist group by both the United States and the European Union should not be able to have weapons then seriously something is wrong with you.

"I can explain it to you but I cannot understand it for you" Fmr NYC Mayor Ed Koch

I am aware that all wings of Hamas is listed as a terrorist organization by both EU and the US - So was Nelson Mandela for his anti-apartheid movement - so that list is only a political card.

Israel had illegally occupied the Gaza stripe for 25 years, when they left in 2005. Why do you think the palestinians hate them? they kill the people they elect, and block all food and energy going in.

How can it come as a surprice they fight back?

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

very well said, even though I didnt read it till end

I agree.

you agree to the parts you read or you didn't read ?

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

directfiesta you hate jews, you hate anything related to any sort of govt. or order and hate anyone who is in the right, you are a waste of time to talk to, its like arguing with a KKK member that was born and bread to hate

here goes the anti-semite label...

thanks for making my point..

BTW, I hate war, so yes, that must make me an anti-whatever

I wish one day to be a non-racist like you

[yys]

Originally Posted by kektex

Yeah, because the US is a perfectly neutral party in the conflict.

I'm not saying I support Hamas, but when you see and read about all the atrocities commited by Israel against the palestinians, it's no wonder most people do not support Israel. It's not about being anti-semitic.

How many protests have you seen denouncing Hamas? You do realize they murder and terrorize their own population right?

I don't remember the usual crew on here frothing at the mouth when Hamas was perpetrating a massacre against its own political rivals and civilians.

Poor kids was in a mosque.

[yys]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Sounds like what is happening.... aint it ???? and add to your story that they also took half the house to lodge their own family ....

No, not really; but I wouldn't expect you to see the difference.

[marketsmart]

we have enough problems in the US to worry about.. there will never be peace in the middle east and we need to stop wasting time and money trying to accomplish a goal that is unattainable..