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MOxxx · 12-18-2007, 06:23 AM

This is a piece from an interesting Blog i have found last night:

"So, you're buying an English car huh? That fancy Jaguar with its birds eye maple... so much nicer than any American car. In fact, no American company can compete with its elegance you say. Well, hold on to your bowler because, as nice as the Jaguar is, it's now a Ford.

The automotive world is a complicated place now and with consolidation hitting everyone it's no surprise that car companies are gobbling up each other faster than ever before.

Now, just because Volvo sold their car division to Ford it doesn't mean you can get a Mustang engine in a S60 sedan. Nor does it mean you can get Ford Focus with an Aston Martin engine. But it does mean these companies with bigger parents have a better chance of surviving long-term because of better financial stability. In fact there's a good chance SAAB wouldn't be making new designs if it weren't for GM and I don't think Volvo would have had the money for their latest 'R' line of cars if Ford hadn't stepped in.

But in soap opera fashion sometimes these companies sell their divisions so quickly that the new parent doesn't even have time to make their own changes. What do we mean? The latest Range Rover (from Land Rover which is owned by Ford) comes with a wonderful BMW engine under the hood. Why? Because BMW bought the Rover group some years ago and sold the Land Rover lineup to Ford. To put it plainly, you'd be buying an English SUV with a German engine from an American company.

Use our chart below to see who owns who.

BMW owns:
-BMW
-Mini
-Rolls Royce

Chrysler owns:
-AMC (brand discontinued -- Chrysler bought AMC primarily for the Jeep brand which was owned by AMC)
-Chrysler
-Dodge
-Eagle (brand discontinued)
-Jeep
-Plymouth (brand discontinued)

Daimler/Chrysler owns:
-Chrysler (small percentage)
-Maybach
-Mercedes-Benz
-Smart

Fiat owns:
-Alfa Romeo
-Ferrari
-Fiat
-Lancia
-Maserati

Ford owns:
-Aston Martin (SALE PENDING)
-Ford
-Jaguar
-Land Rover (bought from BMW)
-Lincoln
-Mazda (Ford owns 33% of Mazda)
-Mercury
-Volvo cars

Fuji Heavy Industries owns:
-Subaru

General Motors owns:
-Buick
-Cadillac
-Chevrolet
-Daewoo (GM owns 44%)
-Fiat (GM has decided to divorce itself from Fiat as of Feb '05, but will retain 10% ownership.)
-GMC
-Holden
-Hummer
-Oldsmobile (brand discontinued)
-Opel
-Pontiac
-Saab
-Saturn
-Suzuki (2.5%, from 20%)
-Vauxhall

Honda owns:
-Acura
-Honda

Hyundai owns:
-Hyundai
-Kia

Isuzu owns:
-Isuzu
(Mitsubishi Corp., Itochu Corp. and Mizuho Corporate Bank owns part of Isuzu.)

Mitsubishi Corp. owns:
-Isuzu (13.6%)
-Mitsubishi Motors Corp (13%)

Nissan owns:
-Infiniti
-Nissan
-Renault (Nissan owns 15%)

PSA Peugeot Citroen owns:
-Citroen
-Peugeot

Porsche owns:
-Porsche
-VW (~31%)

Renault owns:
-Nissan (Renault owns 44%)

Toyota owns:
-Daihatsu (~51%)
-Fuji Heavy Industries -- Subaru (Toyota owns ~20%. Toyota bought this from GM in late 2005. )
-Isuzu (5.9%, announced 7 Nov. 2006)
-Lexus
-Scion
-Toyota

Volkswagen owns:
-Audi
-Bentley
-Bugatti
-Lamborghini
-SEAT
-Skoda
-Volkswagen

The automotive world is constantly changing so this article is will updated as needed.

Last update: 29 Nov 2007
Latest changes were: Chrysler & Daimler split up. Man, we were late on updating that!"

Source: http://carscarscars.blogs.com/index/

Violetta · 12-18-2007, 07:13 AM

Fiat owns Ferrari???????????????? wooot

Fucksakes · 12-18-2007, 07:26 AM

LOL funny my pos car "Volkswagon" fits in with some of the nicest cars.

Twisted Dave · 12-18-2007, 08:32 AM

I think what people forget is that ... sure, Jag is owned by Ford ... but that doesn't change anything ... Jag is still a company that makes cars. They aren't made in a Ford factory. They're not made by Ford. They're made by Jaguar. Ford just makes a shit load of cash from it.

Same with most of the others.

LauraLee · 12-18-2007, 08:36 AM

Very interesting read. I had no idea so many companies were partially owned by rival/other car companies. Good share!

Brother Bilo · 12-18-2007, 08:38 AM

It doesn't really matter who owns the company, unless they come in and force changes to the building process. That would be the only reason why any of this would even matter aside from just knowing it to know it.

camchoice · 12-18-2007, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twisted Illustration

I think what people forget is that ... sure, Jag is owned by Ford ... but that doesn't change anything ... Jag is still a company that makes cars. They aren't made in a Ford factory. They're not made by Ford. They're made by Jaguar. Ford just makes a shit load of cash from it.

Same with most of the others.

L-Pink · 12-18-2007, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

It doesn't really matter who owns the company, unless they come in and force changes to the building process. That would be the only reason why any of this would even matter aside from just knowing it to know it.

It has everything to do with reach and development though.

candyflip · 12-18-2007, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twisted Illustration

I think what people forget is that ... sure, Jag is owned by Ford ... but that doesn't change anything ... Jag is still a company that makes cars. They aren't made in a Ford factory. They're not made by Ford. They're made by Jaguar. Ford just makes a shit load of cash from it.

Same with most of the others.

I have a Jaguar XType and a lot of the parts come from the European Ford Mondeo. While it might not be made in a Ford factory, there's just as much Ford running thru it's veins as their is Jaguar. I'd never go and purchase a Ford branded card, but I love my Jag

Rochard · 12-18-2007, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twisted Illustration

I think what people forget is that ... sure, Jag is owned by Ford ... but that doesn't change anything ... Jag is still a company that makes cars. They aren't made in a Ford factory. They're not made by Ford. They're made by Jaguar. Ford just makes a shit load of cash from it.

Same with most of the others.

I disagree. Take a look at the new Jags they are producing these days. They look like Fords.

MaDalton · 12-18-2007, 09:44 AM

Porsche owns Volkswagen - that's still the joke of the year.

candyflip · 12-18-2007, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

I disagree. Take a look at the new Jags they are producing these days. They look like Fords.

The new Fords wish they looked this good:

ARS Bryan · 12-18-2007, 09:48 AM

Volkswagen is the clear weiner

Quagmire · 12-18-2007, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

I disagree. Take a look at the new Jags they are producing these days. They look like Fords.

Yep. And they're made with common low-end parts as well which is why they don't retain their value. Thank the bean counters at Ford for that one.

Take a look in the Auto Trader and you see their price point is down below at Toyota or a Honda now.

MOxxx · 12-18-2007, 09:56 AM

One thing is sure: Eu made Ford are way better than U.S. Ford, better design, interiors and mechanic.

For Ford it took the EU Ford Focus to win awards in the U.S.

JFK · 12-18-2007, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

I disagree. Take a look at the new Jags they are producing these days. They look like Fords.

sorry Richard, I tend to disagree

Check em out, specially the XK Line

http://www.jaguartoronto.com/en/newc...ries&year=2008

justinsain · 12-18-2007, 10:23 AM

This thread needs some pics

Antonio · 12-18-2007, 10:34 AM

do people really think of Jaguars as cool cars?

Supz · 12-18-2007, 10:56 AM

even when jags were english cars they were pieces of shit, a lot of the new jags are ford products, except when you get into the highline's, they are no where near fords.

Sansa · 12-18-2007, 11:10 AM

Out of that whole bunch Jaguars are by far the least reliable cars. Made that mistake once, never again. Their dealerships do have nice waiting rooms but I didn't buy a car to sit in the waiting room.

MOxxx · 12-19-2007, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinsain

This thread needs some pics

GOOD CALL!

MOxxx · 12-20-2007, 03:08 PM

xenigo · 12-20-2007, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twisted Illustration

I think what people forget is that ... sure, Jag is owned by Ford ... but that doesn't change anything ... Jag is still a company that makes cars. They aren't made in a Ford factory. They're not made by Ford. They're made by Jaguar. Ford just makes a shit load of cash from it.

Same with most of the others.

I guess you forgot that the X-Type is a re-paneled Ford Contour.

MOxxx · 12-27-2007, 11:43 AM

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TubeTitans_SusieQ · 01-10-2008, 12:09 PM

wow very interesting.....and I own a beetle

MOxxx · 01-22-2008, 03:22 PM

KILL_FRENZY · 01-22-2008, 03:25 PM

good to know

Brad · 01-22-2008, 03:39 PM

Interesting to see it all in one place.

The Volvo group is trying to buy back Volvo right now.

Ford is also in the process of off loading Land Rover and Jaguar because they are spread too thin. Plus Ford devalued both the brands while owning them.

MOxxx · 01-28-2008, 05:19 PM

pizzaid · 01-28-2008, 05:25 PM

man that f430 is where its at...

MOxxx · 01-06-2009, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pizzaid

man that f430 is where its at...

where???

12-18-2007, 06:23 AM	#1
MOxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Atlanta,GA Posts: 3,022	^^CARS-Who owns who^^ This is a piece from an interesting Blog i have found last night: "So, you're buying an English car huh? That fancy Jaguar with its birds eye maple... so much nicer than any American car. In fact, no American company can compete with its elegance you say. Well, hold on to your bowler because, as nice as the Jaguar is, it's now a Ford. The automotive world is a complicated place now and with consolidation hitting everyone it's no surprise that car companies are gobbling up each other faster than ever before. Now, just because Volvo sold their car division to Ford it doesn't mean you can get a Mustang engine in a S60 sedan. Nor does it mean you can get Ford Focus with an Aston Martin engine. But it does mean these companies with bigger parents have a better chance of surviving long-term because of better financial stability. In fact there's a good chance SAAB wouldn't be making new designs if it weren't for GM and I don't think Volvo would have had the money for their latest 'R' line of cars if Ford hadn't stepped in. But in soap opera fashion sometimes these companies sell their divisions so quickly that the new parent doesn't even have time to make their own changes. What do we mean? The latest Range Rover (from Land Rover which is owned by Ford) comes with a wonderful BMW engine under the hood. Why? Because BMW bought the Rover group some years ago and sold the Land Rover lineup to Ford. To put it plainly, you'd be buying an English SUV with a German engine from an American company. Use our chart below to see who owns who. BMW owns: -BMW -Mini -Rolls Royce Chrysler owns: -AMC (brand discontinued -- Chrysler bought AMC primarily for the Jeep brand which was owned by AMC) -Chrysler -Dodge -Eagle (brand discontinued) -Jeep -Plymouth (brand discontinued) Daimler/Chrysler owns: -Chrysler (small percentage) -Maybach -Mercedes-Benz -Smart Fiat owns: -Alfa Romeo -Ferrari -Fiat -Lancia -Maserati Ford owns: -Aston Martin (SALE PENDING) -Ford -Jaguar -Land Rover (bought from BMW) -Lincoln -Mazda (Ford owns 33% of Mazda) -Mercury -Volvo cars Fuji Heavy Industries owns: -Subaru General Motors owns: -Buick -Cadillac -Chevrolet -Daewoo (GM owns 44%) -Fiat (GM has decided to divorce itself from Fiat as of Feb '05, but will retain 10% ownership.) -GMC -Holden -Hummer -Oldsmobile (brand discontinued) -Opel -Pontiac -Saab -Saturn -Suzuki (2.5%, from 20%) -Vauxhall Honda owns: -Acura -Honda Hyundai owns: -Hyundai -Kia Isuzu owns: -Isuzu (Mitsubishi Corp., Itochu Corp. and Mizuho Corporate Bank owns part of Isuzu.) Mitsubishi Corp. owns: -Isuzu (13.6%) -Mitsubishi Motors Corp (13%) Nissan owns: -Infiniti -Nissan -Renault (Nissan owns 15%) PSA Peugeot Citroen owns: -Citroen -Peugeot Porsche owns: -Porsche -VW (~31%) Renault owns: -Nissan (Renault owns 44%) Toyota owns: -Daihatsu (~51%) -Fuji Heavy Industries -- Subaru (Toyota owns ~20%. Toyota bought this from GM in late 2005. ) -Isuzu (5.9%, announced 7 Nov. 2006) -Lexus -Scion -Toyota Volkswagen owns: -Audi -Bentley -Bugatti -Lamborghini -SEAT -Skoda -Volkswagen The automotive world is constantly changing so this article is will updated as needed. Last update: 29 Nov 2007 Latest changes were: Chrysler & Daimler split up. Man, we were late on updating that!" Source: http://carscarscars.blogs.com/index/ __________________ Increase revenue and maximize your business potential by translating your website with a partner who truly understands your industry! For more information about X-Rated Translations visit https://www.xratedtranslations.com

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