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  • JFK
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    • Jan 2002
    • 67373

    #51
    Fitty............

    Originally posted by Retox Josh
    He who laughs last ................

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    • Juicy D. Links
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      • Apr 2001
      • 122992

      #52

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      • nikki99
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        • Nov 2004
        • 23087

        #53
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        • jmcb420
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          • Oct 2006
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          #54
          That was a fun thread. After last night it was like reading the end of a comedy.

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          • Brujah
            Beer Money Baron
            • Jan 2001
            • 22157

            #55
            Originally posted by alias
            For gfy's sake I have the original [no-one who arrived later will make sense of this thread otherwise]:


            Aren't you essentially doing the exact same thing that J.F.K. was opposed to? You're hosting his image with watermarks and urls removed. Shouldn't he be DMCA'ing your host now?

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            • alias
              aliasx
              • Apr 2001
              • 19010

              #56
              Originally posted by Brujah
              Aren't you essentially doing the exact same thing that J.F.K. was opposed to? You're hosting his image with watermarks and urls removed. Shouldn't he be DMCA'ing your host now?
              I'll pull it, np. J.F.K?
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              • JFK
                FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                • Jan 2002
                • 67373

                #57
                Originally posted by alias
                I'll pull it, np. J.F.K?
                well, in order for the thread to make sense, leave it up for now. Thanks for asking
                Last edited by JFK; 01-03-2009, 11:08 AM.

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                • alias
                  aliasx
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 19010

                  #58
                  That's what I figured. Right on.
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                  • hypedough
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                    • Sep 2007
                    • 3743

                    #59
                    Originally posted by alias
                    For gfy's sake I have the original [no-one who arrived later will make sense of this thread otherwise]:


                    You can't be fucking serious. He blurred out the watermarks and thought people wouldn't think anything of it? OMG this dude is insane!

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                    • borked
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                      • Feb 2005
                      • 6284

                      #60
                      AFIK, it's fine to parody photos unless it is expressly written that the image may not be altered in any form.

                      However, removing watermarks is not smart - they are there to show ownership.

                      Yet, I find it strange that the owner of the photo hasn't asked for it to be removed from public view and deleted. JFK - even though your thread has made it clear you are not happy with the image being stolen and used, you have not asked for it to be removed. In fact, you have just done the opposite. So in fact, you condone it?

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                      • JFK
                        FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 67373

                        #61
                        Originally posted by alias
                        That's what I figured. Right on.
                        You can take it down later, when the thread fell off the main page. Appreciate it thanks !

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                        • JFK
                          FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 67373

                          #62
                          Originally posted by borked
                          AFIK, it's fine to parody photos unless it is expressly written that the image may not be altered in any form.

                          However, removing watermarks is not smart - they are there to show ownership.

                          Yet, I find it strange that the owner of the photo hasn't asked for it to be removed from public view and deleted. JFK - even though your thread has made it clear you are not happy with the image being stolen and used, you have not asked for it to be removed. In fact, you have just done the opposite. So in fact, you condone it?
                          what would you call this ?
                          Originally posted by JFK
                          Remove it, or the next sound you will hear is from my lawyers
                          I have posted it in other threads as well. I dont mind people using the shots for "parody" as you say, BUT leave the watermark and copyright alone, unless it was previously arranged otherwise.

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                          • alias
                            aliasx
                            • Apr 2001
                            • 19010

                            #63
                            sure np JFK
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                            • borked
                              Totally Borked
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 6284

                              #64
                              Originally posted by JFK
                              what would you call this ?

                              I have posted it in other threads as well. I dont mind people using the shots for "parody" as you say, BUT leave the watermark and copyright alone, unless it was previously arranged otherwise.
                              Apologies for not reading the entire thread

                              I just read your post above saying to leave it cos the thread wouldn't make sense.

                              I'm outta here as quickly as I popped in

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                              • alias
                                aliasx
                                • Apr 2001
                                • 19010

                                #65
                                Originally posted by borked
                                AFIK, it's fine to parody photos unless it is expressly written that the image may not be altered in any form.

                                However, removing watermarks is not smart - they are there to show ownership.

                                Yet, I find it strange that the owner of the photo hasn't asked for it to be removed from public view and deleted. JFK - even though your thread has made it clear you are not happy with the image being stolen and used, you have not asked for it to be removed. In fact, you have just done the opposite. So in fact, you condone it?
                                Without reference the backstepping of the target [since hotlinked] of the original post makes this thread confusing.
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                                • BusterBunny
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                                  • Aug 2005
                                  • 19291

                                  #66
                                  threads like this remind me why i always go outta way to put watermarks back in if i gotta cropem out ;)
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                                  • CrkMStanz
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                                    • Jan 2008
                                    • 517

                                    #67
                                    so... whats the point in removing the watermark for a forum post?

                                    just asking
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                                    • JFK
                                      FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 67373

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by borked
                                      Apologies for not reading the entire thread

                                      I just read your post above saying to leave it cos the thread wouldn't make sense.

                                      I'm outta here as quickly as I popped in
                                      Its all good, thanks for popping in

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                                      • BusterBunny
                                        perverted justice decoy
                                        • Aug 2005
                                        • 19291

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by CrkMStanz
                                        so... whats the point in removing the watermark for a forum post?

                                        just asking
                                        i've contemplated leaving the watermark out of a few because if they were offended i didn't want them thinking they were endorsed by fubar and gettting pissy with jfk...
                                        Last edited by BusterBunny; 01-03-2009, 11:51 AM. Reason: runon sentence supreme
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                                        • JFK
                                          FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                          • Jan 2002
                                          • 67373

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by BusterBunny
                                          i've contemplated leaving the watermark out of a few because if they were offended i didn't want them thinking they were endorsed by fubar and gettting pissy with jfk...
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                                          • BusterBunny
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                                            • Aug 2005
                                            • 19291

                                            #71
                                            done....
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                                            • globofun
                                              Buk Lau
                                              • Aug 2005
                                              • 2651

                                              #72
                                              I always use Julius' pics on boards and my blog, but I always give him a hardlink on top of leaving the watermark.........JFK is one of the most respected dude and greatest guy in this business and doing something like that was fucking lame........

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                                              • Brujah
                                                Beer Money Baron
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 22157

                                                #73
                                                Weird that JFK keeps bumping this thread, so I don't mind helping. Bump for JFK. ;)

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                                                • TheDoc
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                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                  • 13827

                                                  #74
                                                  They stolenerr my jobbs!
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                                                  • pocketkangaroo
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                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                    • 8452

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by borked
                                                    AFIK, it's fine to parody photos unless it is expressly written that the image may not be altered in any form.
                                                    That's not true. Parody is protected under Fair Use precisely because copyright owners would not allow their works to be changed.

                                                    Still it's a low class move in this case, legal or not.

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                                                    • potter
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                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                      • 6559

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                      That's not true. Parody is protected under Fair Use precisely because copyright owners would not allow their works to be changed.

                                                      Still it's a low class move in this case, legal or not.
                                                      Yup, photoshopping a copyrighted image does not fall under fair use / parody. It's copyright infringement.

                                                      If he had created his own image, as a parody, using his own content. It would be a parody and covered under fair use.

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                                                      • Brujah
                                                        Beer Money Baron
                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                        • 22157

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by potter
                                                        Yup, photoshopping a copyrighted image does not fall under fair use / parody. It's copyright infringement.

                                                        If he had created his own image, as a parody, using his own content. It would be a parody and covered under fair use.
                                                        That's not the way I understand it. Image manipulation for satire or parody is allowed under current copyright laws. Not that it matters because in this example who is going to put it to the test anyway? No one.

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                                                        • JD
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                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                          • 22651

                                                          #78
                                                          lawyers my ass....

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                                                          • potter
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                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                            • 6559

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by Brujah
                                                            That's not the way I understand it. Image manipulation for satire or parody is allowed under current copyright laws. Not that it matters because in this example who is going to put it to the test anyway? No one.
                                                            Well I'm not a lawyer.

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                                                            • Klen
                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                              • 32235

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by JD
                                                              lawyers my ass....
                                                              You have lawyers growing in your ass?

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                                                              • JD
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Sep 2003
                                                                • 22651

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                                You have lawyers growing in your ass?
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                                                                • Odie
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                                                                  • Apr 2003
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  holy drama!
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                                                                  • Firehorse
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                                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                                    • 30767

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                                    listen up fuckface... dont try to shrug off what you did..

                                                                    you may have an issue with lloyd, but removing a rightful owners watermarks is unacceptable.. PERIOD...
                                                                    I agree marketsmart! For retoxjosh to do this to JFK who has worked hard for years providing us with pics, and is one of the most liked and respected people in this biz just fucked up, and a reason never to do business with retox josh if anyone would have in the first place anyway!
                                                                    Last edited by Firehorse; 01-03-2009, 04:09 PM.
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                                                                    • Firehorse
                                                                      Desire it and have it!!!
                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                      • 30767

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by globofun
                                                                      I always use Julius' pics on boards and my blog, but I always give him a hardlink on top of leaving the watermark.........JFK is one of the most respected dude and greatest guy in this business and doing something like that was fucking lame........

                                                                      Greedy motherfucka!
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                                                                      • 2MuchMark
                                                                        Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                                        • 50971

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Bump !!!!!!

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                                                                        • KillerK
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                                                                          • May 2008
                                                                          • 3406

                                                                          #86
                                                                          this fuckstick needs a ban

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                                                                          • spacedog
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                                                                            • Nov 2001
                                                                            • 14149

                                                                            #87
                                                                            wow.. What a dickhead thing to do..

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                                                                            • dev777
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                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                              • 366

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Looks like fair use to me.

                                                                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_us...use_and_parody

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                                                                              • NickSunshine
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                                                                                • Mar 2006
                                                                                • 1196

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Although the drama is very tired already, I really don't think Josh's intent was to steal from JFK.

                                                                                Personally, I think he just did not want to tie JFK or his sponsors to his bullshit. A crop would have looked a lot less fucked than a blur in my opinion, but whatever-

                                                                                HOWEVER-

                                                                                The right thing to do would have been to ask JFK's permission beforehand, or to comply immediately with the request to put them back.

                                                                                Instead you get a priceless Josh response like-

                                                                                Originally posted by Retox Josh
                                                                                Tell your lacky to get off my back then, I don't give a shit, DMCA Zak, I'm sure he'll shit can me over it.
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                                                                                • Ace_luffy
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                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                  • 12163

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by jmcb420
                                                                                  That was a fun thread. After last night it was like reading the end of a comedy.



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                                                                                  • Brujah
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                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                    • 22157

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    This is Water(mark)Gate 2009

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                                                                                    • JFK
                                                                                      FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                      • 67373

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by alias
                                                                                      That's what I figured. Right on.
                                                                                      Alias, take it down pls..........

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                                                                                      • amacontent
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                                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                                        • 13022

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                                                                        that's rich coming from you, you wouldn't know respect if it sat on your face ....

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                                                                                        • alias
                                                                                          aliasx
                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                          • 19010

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by JFK
                                                                                          Alias, take it down pls..........
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                                                                                          • Finike
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                                                                                            • Marcus Aurelius
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                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                              • 14809

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Bump for stolen pic ownage thread.

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                                                                                              • Carmine Raguso
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                                                                                                • Dec 2008
                                                                                                • 2158

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Bump for lame drama

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                                                                                                • Ace_luffy
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                  • 12163

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  bump for excitement..


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                                                                                                  • woj
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                                                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                                                    • 47882

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    wtf guys, unless I'm missing something it sounds like a perfect example of fair use... it's clearly a parody, the intent is clearly not commercial, etc...

                                                                                                    the truth is that baddog probably bitched to JFK about the pic, that's the only reason there is drama about it... if it was anyone else we would had a few laughs and the pic would have been forgotten 2 days later...
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                                                                                                    • alias
                                                                                                      aliasx
                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                      • 19010

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by woj
                                                                                                      . .. the pic would have been forgotten 2 days later...
                                                                                                      pretty sure it has been
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