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Old 12-31-2008, 12:49 AM   #1
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US military, Police forces told to prepare for Civil Unrest due to economy.

Interesting article.. although, they're preparing for nothing IMO.
From what I've read on this board, everyones just gonna lie down and take what's going on without a fight anyway.

The economy is being driven into the ground, bailout packages are doing nothing to loosen up credit and everyone seems totally blind to the fact, that over 7 TRILLION dollars has been stolen from the US economy.. the FED bailouts that were supposed to be totally transparent are being done in total secrecy and noone cares..

I wonder how bad it's gonna get before people wake up, Look around and say "Holy Shit", and realize that everything has gone to shit since 9/11, the US is passed the point of reparation currently $10,558,857,334,636 dollars in debt, A lot of which is owed to China and Japan.

It's becoming pretty clear that the US will have to step aside as the the largest global economy.. The "American Century" ended 8 years ago

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A new report by the U.S. Army War College talks about the possibility of Pentagon resources and troops being used should the economic crisis lead to civil unrest, such as protests against businesses and government or runs on beleaguered banks.

?Widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security,? said the War College report.

The study says economic collapse, terrorism and loss of legal order are among possible domestic shocks that might require military action within the U.S.

International Monetary Fund Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn warned Wednesday of economy-related riots and unrest in various global markets if the financial crisis is not addressed and lower-income households are hurt by credit constraints and rising unemployment.

U.S. Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., and U.S. Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif., both said U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson brought up a worst-case scenario as he pushed for the Wall Street bailout in September. Paulson, former Goldman Sachs CEO, said that might even require a declaration of martial law, the two noted.

State and local police in Arizona say they have broad plans to deal with social unrest, including trouble resulting from economic distress. The security and police agencies declined to give specifics, but said they would employ existing and generalized emergency responses to civil unrest that arises for any reason.

?The Phoenix Police Department is not expecting any civil unrest at this time, but we always train to prepare for any civil unrest issue. We have a Tactical Response Unit that trains continually and has deployed on many occasions for any potential civil unrest issue,? said Phoenix Police spokesman Andy Hill.

?We have well established plans in place for such civil unrest,? said Scottsdale Police spokesman Mark Clark.

Clark, Hill and other local police officials said the region did plenty of planning and emergency management training for the Super Bowl in February in Glendale.

?We?re prepared,? said Maricopa County Sheriff Deputy Chief Dave Trombi citing his office?s past dealings with immigration marches and major events.

Super Bowl security efforts included personnel and resources from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and U.S. military?s Northern Command, which coordinated with Arizona officials. The Northern Command was created after 9/11 to have troops and Defense Department resources ready to respond to security problems, terrorism and natural disasters.

Northern Command spokesman Michael Kucharek and Arizona Army National Guard Major. Paul Aguirre said they are not aware of any new planning for domestic situations related to the economy.

Nick Dranias, director of constitutional government at the libertarian Goldwater Institute, said a declaration of marital law would be an extraordinary event and give military control over civilian authorities and institutions. Dranias said the Posse Comitatus Act restricts the U.S. military?s role in domestic law enforcement. But he points to a 1994 U.S. Defense Department Directive (DODD 3025) he says allows military commanders to take emergency actions in domestic situations to save lives, prevent suffering or mitigate great property damage.

Dranias said such an emergency declaration could worsen the economic situation and doubts extreme measures will been taken. ?I don?t think it?s likely. But it?s not impossible,? he said.

The economy is in recession. Consumer spending is down, foreclosures are up and a host of businesses are laying off workers and struggling with tight credit and the troubled housing and financial markets. The U.S. Federal Reserve Bank and U.S. Treasury Department have pumped more than $8.5 trillion into the economy via equity purchases of bank stocks, liquidity infusions, Wall Street and bank bailouts and taxpayer rebates. U.S. automakers are seeking more than $14 billion in federal loans with fears they could fall into bankruptcy without a bailout. The U.S. housing and subprime lending-induced recession also has hit economies in Europe, Japan and China.

Gov. Janet Napolitano?s office declined comment on emergency planning and possible civil unrest. Napolitano is president-elect Barack Obama?s pick for secretary of Homeland Security, an agency that oversees airport security, disaster response, border security, customs and anti-terrorism efforts.

As governor, Napolitano sent National Guard troops to Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station in 2003 in response to terrorism threats.

Glendale Police spokesman Jim Toomey said the West Valley suburb developed new emergency plans with the approach of Y2K computer changeovers leading up to the year 2000 and police have updated those plans several times including after 9/11. Toomey said strategies to deal with public unrest usually involve deploying personnel and equipment to deal with specific incidents while still providing usual services.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:01 AM   #4
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the market did well today so everything must be good from now on

wake up peeps
Yeah no kidding..

I keep seeing articles with headlines like "On the Homestretch, 2008 is almost over"

Like 2009's gonna be great or something Obama the magician is on his way to save the day!

I can't wait to watch everyones disbelief as Obama takes everything Georgey W is doing, and does it on a much larger scale.

More bailouts - bailouts are bad for the economy! especially when most of the money is just padding the pockets of already rich bankers for fuck sakes
more stimulus packages - printing more money is bad for the economy leads to more inflation of an already bloated economy.

and that'll be only the beginning... the economy problems we've seen so far are the tip of the iceberg.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:08 AM   #6
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by march 1st people will yell bring the W back

what chu think of that?:
Agree, I hate Bush, but I have a feeling he's tame compared to what Obama's gonna bring on with his crusade for "Change" ... we're gonna see change alright .. big time.
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Agree, I hate Bush, but I have a feeling he's tame compared to what Obama's gonna bring on with his crusade for "Change" ... we're gonna see change alright .. big time.
welcome to the new world order socialist Muslim police state prison planet. right guyz?
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Yup it is all true. Now what? What will you do, what are your grand plans to help yourself or whatever it is you plan on doing?
You can try and spin this as conspiracy, but look around man, don't you sense something is seriously wrong? Highest unemployment rates in 35 years, gas and commodity stocks plummeting, 10's of thousands of houses in foreclosure, Housing costs plummeting at rates only seen during the great depression, A Country 10+ trillion dollars in debt, a war that most of the country disagrees with sucking money out of the country like a vaccuum and everythings OK to you?

I knew you were disabled, but didn't think you were retarded too.. must be rough.

Anyway, personally I'm buying bullion so when/if the dollar collapses I still have something with actual value, and buying more food than usual, and storing a little for a rainy day. Not spending as much as I normally would on meaningless items..

Small things that'll make all the difference in a worst case scenario.
At worst, I have a real cool coin collection worth quite a bit of money, and extra food for a really kick ass bbq.

I love all you "Everything is okay" guys .. I really hope I get to watch you all starve to death infront of your big-screens.
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You can try and spin this as conspiracy, but look around man, don't you sense something is seriously wrong? Highest unemployment rates in 35 years, gas and commodity stocks plummeting, 10's of thousands of houses in foreclosure, Housing costs plummeting at rates only seen during the great depression, A Country 10+ trillion dollars in debt, a war that most of the country disagrees with sucking money out of the country like a vaccuum and everythings OK to you?

I knew you were disabled, but didn't think you were retarded too.. must be rough.

Anyway, personally I'm buying bullion so when/if the dollar collapses I still have something with actual value, and buying more food than usual, and storing a little for a rainy day. Not spending as much as I normally would on meaningless items..

Small things that'll make all the difference in a worst case scenario.
At worst, I have a real cool coin collection worth quite a bit of money, and extra food for a really kick ass bbq.

I love all you "Everything is okay" guys .. I really hope I get to watch you all starve to death infront of your big-screens.
Well thanks for the name calling and getting all hostile. I just asked what you had planed. You read into it some conspiracy story, I never said such a word. I just made it clear lets presume it is all true.
I have already posted several times in the past that I always have kept an emergency supply of food, medicine, etc. Not for some eventual D-day though but more in case of some natural disaster or something along those lines. Hell I have even gone on about canning/preserving foods in the past.

Yet again thanks for assumptions.
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Well thanks for the name calling and getting all hostile. I just asked what you had planed. You read into it some conspiracy story, I never said such a word. I just made it clear lets presume it is all true.
I have already posted several times in the past that I always have kept an emergency supply of food, medicine, etc. Not for some eventual D-day though but more in case of some natural disaster or something along those lines. Hell I have even gone on about canning/preserving foods in the past.

Yet again thanks for assumptions.
Well, I read the exact same reply from you in the 9/11 thread , where a few idiots are posting simpons pictures to prove 9/11 was an insider job.. so maybe that's why I took it that way...

I read your post as in there's nothing wrong and nothing we can do, so why bother..When there is certainly things we can do to make it through ok - and I'm pretty sure I will with the measures I'm taking.

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Well, I read the exact same reply from you in the 9/11 thread , where a few idiots are posting simpons pictures to prove 9/11 was an insider job.. so maybe that's why I took it that way...

I read your post as in there's nothing wrong and nothing we can do, so why bother..When there is certainly things we can do to make it through ok.
It is a fair question in either thread. Seriously what would be wrong with that question. I actually think it should be one of the top questions come to think of it. Just cutting to the chase bypassing the arguments and asking now what?
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It is a fair question in either thread. Seriously what would be wrong with that question. I actually think it should be one of the top questions come to think of it. Just cutting to the chase bypassing the arguments and asking now what?
It is.. but when I read the exact same reply here as in that thread.. you can see why I thought you were pretty much mocking me like MalBiz always is..

it's also the way you worded it " what are your grand plans " Like I'm on some grandiose mission to save the world or something, If I read too far into your post, I'm sorry..

All I'm doing is preparing, and I think that what I'm doing is actually very simple, but will make a huge difference.

As for 9/11 .. if we found out today that it was an inside job, I don't know what we'd do.. haven't a clue. I've felt something was fishy about the whole thing for years, and haven't had a clue what one can do about it.. but doesn't mean that something can't be done.

Perhaps Rumsfield could hang in time square, I dunno.
but something would HAVE to be done no?
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$10,558,857,334,636 - That's a lot of numbers
And I'm pretty sure that number doesn't include the bailout dollars that were just stolen...
which BTW is 7 TRILLION dollars, despite this 700 billion number we keep hearing in the news

but it's okay, nothing's wrong
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they screwed up the economy and now they want to (preparing to) use force on the tax payers..? lol
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they screwed up the economy and now they want to (preparing to) use force on the tax payers..? lol
right. let us pay for it while big wig exec's and congress make 4x to 10x more than they should.
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They're gonna round us up into FEMA prison camps.
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Bunkers are for fools. You need you a secluded cabin in the woods. I hear Ruby Ridge is nice this time of year..
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Weren't you the guy just a month or so ago harping about how you want a union between the US, Canada and Mexico? What gives?
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Weren't you the guy just a month or so ago harping about how you want a union between the US, Canada and Mexico? What gives?
he's a fuckin idiot..
That's what gives.
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Weren't you the guy just a month or so ago harping about how you want a union between the US, Canada and Mexico? What gives?
Nothing gives. It was on the internet, so it must be true.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...9#post15106169

Sadly dcat was the only person to get it right.

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That's what gives.
You're a sad, angry little man.
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:52 PM   #41
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That's really scary
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:06 PM   #42
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A good time to join the military.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:27 PM   #43
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well i hope not if so ill wait it out in the woods
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