Css is the devil

CSS:

Cute Slutty Sitters

Cum Swapping Susie

Cams Showing Sex

Carl Swaps Semen (EWWWWWWW)

Cunts Stuffed Silly (LOL)

Cliff's Sluty Sister

Crazed Shaft Suckers

Cocks Sucked Slowly

There's more but this is good enough for now lol

-Loki-

Some good laughs here.

Some good advice too.

Your business is much different no? You have schedules with actual dates and times right? If someone needs you for something, you can say - I have next Tuesday available from X:00 to X:00.

My business is not like that. I have three projects right now that could last into February. With six more pending for January, February, and March. It was my impression you needed that myspace layout done asap. Which meant I would have had to bump back work on my projects at the time with value well higher than a quick myspace design. You can knock me all you want, but it's not going to accomplish anything.

It's like if you bring your car to a shop. They might be able to get to when they can at their normal rate. Or you could pay them a higher rate to bump yourself up the line and get it worked on right away. As I said, I was under the impression you were the latter.

Since this seems to be a misunderstanding. I'll make it real simple. If you want a design for a normal hourly rate.

• We can schedule one for the future when I have no projects in place. It would have to be for sometime in February or March.

• We can schedule one for me to work on as soon as I can, with no real completion date (probably something like 2-4 weeks). Meaning, I will work on your design in between my already scheduled projects. I might have two hours this week with no work, eight hours, or zero hours. I'll work on yours and complete it, however the current projects I have get priority each day.

• Or you can hire someone else.


... I run my company very tight. I don't just accept job after job and "hope" to get it all done. The organization is very precise. It keeps work consistent and on time.

Actually...You and I never discussed anything about the MySpace layout until the last thread that you mentioned. You spoke with somebody else who asked you for a rate on my behalf. There was never any discussion of me being in a hurry or anything like that. I wanted the design 6 months ago and still don't have it. I must not be in that big of a hurry....No?

I've never knocked you and I'm not doing so now. I'm simply telling it like it is.

I don't do anything based on an hourly rate. That's a great way to get fucked, especially by somebody who is working remotely.

.. So then do you want to set something up? If you know exactly what you want it shouldn't be difficult to estimate the time involved and do a flat rate.

A lot of people don't know this but potter was coded out of pure CSS in a government lab back in the 70's

I had to stop reading after the first few smug responses. In case no one has explained it yet, in a nutshell, CSS cuts back on the amount of code (html) required on your page. Not only should it increase your speed, but it lets the search engines see more of your text as it isn't spending all its time dwelling on your code.

True Story.

To go even further on what Baddog brings up, it's not only that the spiders are crawling your site faster that's a benefit, but a properly marked up page uses the code the way it's meant to be used and the spider will see that. For exampe, a h1 tag needs to be used accordingly. It's the top level heading tag. So you want your most important info to be in a h1 tag. I love seeing sites that will have the name of their site in a p tag but style it to be extra big and bold (like a h1 tag).

Use paragraph tags when marking up... you got it, paragraphs of text. Lists are used all over the place, you might not see it right away, but lists are everywhere... navigation is a really common list now.

As far as load times, well it's not a whole huge difference at first, and it won't be much faster if it's a one page site...like a gallery (some exceptions to the rule of course). But CSS gets cached. So if you use a single style sheet for a whole paysite tour, or members area, then once the CSS is loaded the first time, it doesn't have to load again. This makes going from page to page, in a well marked up page, faster.

Also, just because a page is marked up table-less-ly (is that a word?) doesn't mean it will cut down the code all that much. I see tons of pages where people just basically replace tables with divs and call it a day. That's not the best way to do it. And there is a time to use tables. They do have a proper use. It's just not for presentation.

Another fun thing is when people will mark up their pages table-less-ly but then not have a doc type, or use the wrong doc type, or not use valid html / css or all of the above. Why take the time to do all that work if your pages aren't valid?

Ok... I will end my rant here.

What kind of mechanic do you go to? if I discovered my job got bumped because someone offered to pay them a little more they would lose me as a customer forever.

Me too. That would suck.

I've tried to do business with you twice now. I'm not getting a good vibe.

I think I will pass.

Exactly. :thumbsup

Well hello there Mr. Literal. I'll be sure try harder on my analogies next time. :1orglaugh

css is the shizzy my nizzy:thumbsup

Aaron - hit me up yo - Im not myspace fluent, but my css skillz be ill'n

you see how i used african american ebonics there? Made me a little cooler - right?

You've never tried to do business with me. Sandy hit me up like a year ago for a quote on a myspace layout. Twice now you've made petty comments about that quote and I've responded. I wouldn't call that trying to do business. If you had come to me on a more professional level things would be a lot different.

You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar :2 cents:

I can't link to it because it is a forum but there is a place where the myspace resource site owners hang around. Full of annoying kids but the marketplace is good, a few talented designers who are very familiar with CSS/Div Overlay Layouts. If you post your project there you will someone to do it well for a fraction of the price.

the CSS also does help with SEO. the bots dont have all that extra code to go through

Deej gotz his flow down... G dawg... straight up G...

I tried figuring out this sig for 10 minutes and then gave up :1orglaugh

Ok, this is rather backwords. CSS = good! HTML needs CSS, or otherwise you run the risk of code bloating (thus slower site), blah, blah. CSS streamlines the update process, and 100% CSS design - thats impressive!

The above languages arnt bullshit, static html is bullshit (dinosaur old), and if you paid more than a few dollars - your request would be a rip off and self imposed at that.

sites, real sites are not built out of HTML, its a markup language - its a pretty cover to what most often ends up a shitty book.

Use the CSS (prop mixed with HTML), and tip him for helping you! If he did it all in CSS, he needs to be given a holiday bonus. He did you right and saved you from yourself.
:2 cents:

Thank you I actually didnt know what it was.

i only code sites in assembly