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Word!

I've seen a lot of experimenting with buying from traffic brokers, Search Engines and etc. and it's WRONG to state that only sending to tour directly works or only sending to cams works.

If you're buying skimmed traffic as a feeder for example, you can't expect profit right away until the increase of traffic boosts your SE rankings and you start receiving quality traffic from search engines. This way it serves as "investment". But still I have a lot of examples of people who work with narrow niches and they manage to convert skimmed traffic and make good profit from it.

I have examples of people who tried to convert low quality traffic through a fake TGP, but it didn't work at all at first. They kept trying and didn't say that the traffic is bad. And you know what the solution was? Slightly adjusting their thumbnails from hardcore to extreme and their ratios started to rock.

What I'm saying is:
1) Analyze sources of your purchased traffic, some traffic brokers publish the lists of the sites they work with. That will be a good help in targeting.
2) Play with your landing page. Try different marketing strategies.

Eventually it will pay off (quoting U-Bob here) "if you know what you're doing"

Good luck:winkwink:

I would never popup something on one of my blogs...

You certainly would not send $7 CPM traffic to a gallery.

Am I talking to you or doridori?

You can make a LOT and I mean %600-%700 ROI from broker traffic but you also gotta invest a lot and I'm talking thousands. No way you can get any meaningful results from playing with a few dollars worth of traffic, you gotta buy and buy a lot. The sales keep coming for a long time after traffic stopped, because of bookmarkers. The only thing you gotta be careful is that when the broker sees you keep buying big traffic he will copy your method and send the traffic himself.

Give JoesTraffic a shot, I've always done well with it.

Why should it not work with traffic. People are convinced it works with content and look at how well we are all doing now. :Oh crap

That was me being sarcastic. ;)

I've never understood why people always say "you can't tell on 1k of traffic" or something like that? Why, because the traffic you get is so crappy you really can't tell? because I've had multiple sales off less then 1k of traffic, so if 3+ sales off 1k, becomes 30+ sales off 10k, is that enough to gauge or does it have to be 500k in traffic for you to fully figure out the traffic is worth something?

If your traffic isn't complete shit, you shouldn't have to have hundreds of thousands of it to figure out if it's good or not.

Because, considering all the variables involved, a 1K batch of traffic (or even 10K for that matter) is a statistically insignificant sample.

If you paid $5 for 1K, then yes, you need to do a larger test.

Price has nothing to do with it.

you were right in calling this an experiment

reminder 99.9999% of traffic that is sold dont matter what you push how much you spend you will not even remotely break even (im talking about broker style traffic not SE and traffic that you handpick from say a site like AFF or niche TGP etc)

So, if he paid me $75 for 10k of traffic, and made 5 $35 sales which equals $175, more then double what he paid, it's not a good enough test to see if it's worth continuing with?

I fail to see how that's not a good enough test...

The answer is "it depends".

I hate to go all mathemtically on you guys, but this is an excellent (albeit old) read on 'expected' conversion rates, and how much traffic to send for a real test;

http://www.buildinganempire.com/poisson2.html

WTF :Oh crap

Buying traffic is an art form.

I'm not good at that art, but I know damn well that somebody out there is and
they will continue to buy until the end of time.

People selling traffic aren't making their living off nubes, they are living off
regular buyers that have been buying for years.

I'm not willing to believe that people who buy traffic for years keep doing it
because they are stupid. On the contrary, they keep buying because they've
figured out what I couldn't.

READ this:

this thread was a great read.

any results to speak of thus far?

still testing, too early to say anything.

post stats :2 cents:

Cant wait to see how this turns out.

Uh, those are NOT numbers I gave you. I said $5 for 1K is too small of a test, not $75 for 10K.

DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH!... thanks ;-)

Yeah, and at $5/k you get at least 1 sale out of it for $35, isn't that a great ROI wanting you to buy more? I'm pretty sure you understand that because you know your traffic, it's better then traffic brokers, so I figured you'd at least understand you don't need 100k of traffic to gauge if it's good enough to buy more.

jscott would have made 4500%/roi you all suck

How do you know you'll get a sale?! All that you're saying is hypothetical with no proof of actually numbers.

I tell people a good way to test a traffic source is to spend the amount you'd expect to get from two sales. So if you get $100 for two sales, then spend atleast $100 to test the traffic.

Because I've had 5 sales and 2 rebills from 48 raw hits...

thats good, you can pay Sherm back now..

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Josh hit me up about this bud.

If you were on, GAWD!

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And the traffic source? And what site did you send the traffic to? You're not going to get those types of result with all sites you buy traffic from. I still by my answer that $5 for 1k is not a good test.

What does the price have to do with anything?

In my first experiment with buying traffic, I bid for fat chicks on overture and sent it to a pps program. It was a long time ago, but... $1 in traffic later, I made a $25 sale. New and stupid, I thought, this must be good, $300 in traffic later I still had the one single solitary sale. Sponsor probably made some cash from exit consoles, I felt like I got fucked, that's a lot of money especially when you're just starting out, but it was my own fault. Haven't bought traffic since.

I admire anyone who can buy traffic, especially junk traffic like popunders on font sites, and turn a nice profit. If only it were so easy for me, I'd be buying all the traffic I could get my hands on. It seems to be hit and miss for most people, either you turn a profit or not, hit and miss, but I'd seriously take anyone who can turn a profit consistently on purchased traffic from different sources by sending it to sponsors or their own sites (not just by reselling it straight at $1 per 10,000 uniques) and worship them as a fucking god.

:thumbsup

Was wondering the same thing myself.

Dayumn your right, im not even on :winkwink::1orglaugh

i'll hit u up tmr retox josh, hands full today with some other work.