I cant stand people who are ignorant enough to say "my dog would never do that", while having one of those monsters in the same home as their children. Fucking idiots. 
Pit Bull = Piece of DOO DOO
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Nothing like buying a breed that was bread for aggression and then saying how nice and loving it is. But lots of people are dumb.Comment
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i thought this thread was going to be about hoverboards
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This is just a stupid argument. I refuse to participate in it any more..Comment
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My girlfriend have 2 pit-bulls in house and they are safety like cats.
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i heard people who hate pitbulls are usually closet homo's who hate any animal that is "manly". Not saying you are a homo, just thats usually the case
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I cant stand people who are ignorant enough to say "my dog would never do that", while having one of those monsters in the same home as their children. Fucking idiots.
Pit Bull = Piece of DOO DOOSounds like the "owners" fault, just like 99.9% of the time ...Originally posted by your article
It's all how you raise the dog. You don't know jack shit about pit bulls.
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alot has to do with how they are raised but you can't erase hundreds or thousands of years of instincts which at any moment can kick in regardless of training...true this can happen with any dog or animal that is domesticated but some are inherently more dangerous than others due to their power...only thing i can think of as a metaphor is the assault weapons ban...people love them but they are pretty much unnecessary...not saying to eradicate them but they are very dangerous period
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Damn ... wtf? Listen I had 2 pit bulls, as tough dogs for the small dicked man - i guess cowardly as well - these dogs are not tough! They are not vicious, they arn't even labeled as #1 in aggressiveness. Pit Bulls will win the fight amongst other animals, sure. However the fighting of pits is retarded, and they are by no means the tip-top of the food chain in this category either. If you are dumb enough to try and raise a pit bull as a punk - good luck, your completely fucked. Pit bulls are pack dogs - they want to be the leader. If your the man of the house (so to speak, no offense ladies) - and you are not the leader, guess what ... the Pit will be - and again your fucked. Its a simple raising technique - something again i do not like because without violence i broke my dogs HARD ... in return they didn't like me to the point of no eye contact - but they wouldn't growl if my baby (yes baby at the time) got between them and their food bowl.
I am not a fan of Pits, although my wife and children are - fact is they are not intelligent, maybe its the inbreeding. I'm not joking here - these dogs are NOT INTELLIGENT, I have been around them all my life - I've seen people try and say otherwise, met their Pits ... and what did i find another dumb-dumb. They require allot of attention, they must run or they will dig and shit up your yard. These are not lazy dogs, if your a lazy person - wrong dog!
These dogs arnt for everyone, but not safe for kids - thats really more of a sign the owner wasn't the leader. Blame the owner, they botched the raising process. Killer Pit Bull hype is silly, media driven terror ... is it really so hard for people to take responsibility for their own inabilities.
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Known for their intelligence and loyalty American Pit Bull Terriers make excellent, loving and protective companions despite the unfair press they receivehttp://www.bulldogbreeds.com/america...llterrier.htmlBull baiting was banned in England in 1835 and these dogs are no longer being bred to fightbest host: Webair | best sponsor: Kink | best coder: 688218966 | Go Fuck YourselfComment
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You know the saying about "no bad dogs, only bad owners"?
It's true. I now 2 people personally with nice pitbulls I would trust around my Labrador, or even children. Know why they're nice dogs? Because they were raised correctly by nice people.
The problem with pits is that they usually attract macho, douche asswipes who want their dog to be an extension of their own badass self -- or they like to dog fight. When these bastards have a pitbull, there's not much chance for the dog to turn out good.
I know not all pit owners fit into this category, but I see more of the aforementioned jerkoffs with this breed. It's not the breeds fault. They have that ability to be vicious, but it's the humans that fuck it all up.
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- 100% agreed. From what i also know most Pit owners - have a screw loose, most think they are "macho", i guess thats why they need a dog to do their bidding? Those dogs wont respect the owner or anything - they assumed the leadership role. To break a Pit of that, wow ... i wouldn't want to try. Sad*** Andrew Love ***
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APBT always make top of the lists for hype. I'd put the Tosa Inu 1st (#1). I know a redneck couple (friends) that owns one, we brought our Pit over to play - like "doggie play day", some strange new way adults become friends, whatever - they had this dog ... bad times had by all, and our full grown female pit was a rag toy for this animal. Separating them was no fun at all. Later these dogs became friends, but it was a bloody entrance into doggie friendship - which i'd highly recommend to no one.
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yep thats why Petey from the little rascals was a pit. Pit's were once called the nurse maidens dog because they were so good with kids. its the owner, poor breeding not the dog.Comment
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Exactly - anyone who blames an animal for anything is ignorant. I *think* a tiger is the only animal that kills for sport (besides humans), but even in its case if you try and have a pet tiger and something happens, you still don't blame the animal; the blame is on the owner/handler.Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmailComment
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I have a pitbull and a husky/collie mix.
The pit has never barked, growled, bitten, or become aggressive with anyone. She's frequently around a 4 year old and a 2 month old and if anything, she's cautious and protective around them. She's also, hands down, the most loving and affectionate dog I know.
The mutt barks anytime someone gets in the yard, knocks on the door, or makes a sudden move towards me.
The breed doesnt make them agressive, its just that when a pitbull DOES attack someone its a lot more severe than when a smaller dog does it.Comment
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dogs kill for sport all the time...you've never seen a dog kill a squirrel or bird only to toss it around and chase it like a game of fetch and not eat it?..in case you haven't i can attest to this, tho it is generally a feline characteristic and training and breeding have reduced this in dogs...@ everyone blaming the owners again you cannot dismiss instinct/evolution and if you do you are kidding yourselves...and again i'm not saying all pits are bad but blaming it all on humans is absolutely not correct
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The saying "no bad dogs, only bad owners" is not 100% true
I'm not going to take part in this debate other than this
Dogs have two psysiologic stats:
1 - submissive to its owner
2 - in charge
Each dog breed have its own "Fight or flight" preferences.
Fight or flight an be controlled to a extend, again depending on the breed.
Example.
Dog A = Pitbull
Dog B = Retriver
Sneak up on the dog and scare it. Dog A will most likely go for your throat, Dog B will most likely run behind you with its tail between the legs.
It's due to its Fight or flight preferences.
The more contact you have with the dog, the bigger chance there is it will recognise you as the leader. As long as it see you as the leader, nothing will happen to you. But that don't mean it cant attack your kid or wife.
There are many pitbull's who have never done anything wrong, but no matter how the hell you try and spin it, the chances of your dog attacking someone it feels either threatened by, or afraid that someone might take its postiton in the pack (can be a GF or kid), is considerably larger with breeds like Amstaff, pitbull, doberman or pudelComment
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MSNBC: People with vicious dogs may be vicious too
Ohio study found that every owner of a high-risk breed had brush with law
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story is dumb anyways the chick threw herself onto her own dog. The pitbull probably though the poodle was being raped and was just trying to help. Notice how no mention of the poodle being on a leash. Ask yourself why you would throw yourself on your own dog if both dogs are on leashes? wouldnt you just walk the opposite direction. What likely happened is poodle owner was walking her dog without a leash , they came across a person walking a pitbull on a leash , poodle prob came up to pitbull yapping away, pitbull prob gave it a nip or barked to tell the poodle to fuck off. Poodle ignored the warning , both parties freaking out at this point , then the insane lady threw herself on her own dog and the pit thought the fight was on and jumped in to help.hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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every animal on earth has the same qualities
can you please list every dogs preference please , i didn't realise they had figured out an evaluation method.
good point, all dogs can attack your kids and family , and there is no evidence to suggest pitbulls do it more than other breeds
The facts show pitbulls are not the most likely breed to attack you, they may be more likely than your average dog, but thats how statistics work. There will always be a dog more likely to attack than your average dog, until there are no more dogs.
snakes, mosquito's, flies , bees are all way way more likely to kill you than a pitbull.hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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ebus_dk --> "There are many pitbull's who have never done anything wrong, but no matter how the hell you try and spin it, the chances of your dog attacking someone it feels either threatened by, or afraid that someone might take its postiton in the pack (can be a GF or kid), is considerably larger with breeds like Amstaff, pitbull, doberman or pudel"
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exactly.. i know its a fact i read it on a bathroom stall and they never lie.
you are saying people who raise pitbulls have a screw loose , and you know this because you used to raise pitbulls ?
I think you just invalidated everything you have said so far
I thnk what you meant to say was that "from your very limited contact with pitbulls and pitbull owners , and having no experience studying the behaviour of animals you have made a wild guess about the owners of a certain breed of dogs"hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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Look, the behavior you're trying to describe is deffensive drive behavior.
The vast majority of dog attacks happen from dogs in Pray or Aggressive drives and not in defense of protective modes. It's a pretty big subtly to totally miss in a large post like yours.
Your analysis of the two states a dog can be in also missing a very imporant subtly. That is, almost all dogs are born submissive. In nature, you need only one pack leader. Dogs that you have labeled as "in charge" are in fact most often dogs that are submissive by nature, but lacking propery guidance from a pack leader (you) they are trying to fill in that role. They do it by instict to protect the pack. Dogs in this state are unstable because they are trying to fill a role they don't have the genetics to fill.
Since you miss these sorts of important points, I'm just going to go with my initial assumption that you don't know what you're talking about..Comment
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I dont know where you copy/pasted that text from, but it have to be some selfmade dogguru I belive.
NO dog or animal is born submissive. I really dont want to waste my time on you. I'm not going to spend a saturday night trying to argue in a language I'm nto to good at with a idiot like you, who want nothing but a dickslapping contest. GFY is full of people who will play along with your - I wont
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No man, Im not invalid - and you dont know me. I'm guessing you own a pit, and that validates my point when i say "screws loose". I didnt use to raise pit bulls, Im not a dog breeder. My pit was hit by a car about 1.5 years ago. Again, if anything all I have done is express that Pits arnt a bad breed by default - i blame the owners. Most (not all) PIT owners are shit! If your a bully, so is your doggie ... thank about it.*** Andrew Love ***
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I didn't cut and paste that from anywhere. That's from my more than 20 years experience with dogs and rescuing dogs. I have 3 rescued Rottweilers currently.
Further, when I want actual information about animals, I don't go to dog breeders, I go to my sister who happens to be a DVM.
You should consider reading some of Cesar Milan's books. Did you know he has a pack of more than 20 dogs, many of them Pittbulls and every single one of them is calm submissive? Check it out, you could actually learn something..Comment
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Humans kill more people a year than any animal. Does that make all humans shit according to your own logic?
If they would quit putting Pit bulls and gangsters in the same set on MTV then you wouldn't even be considering making this post.
Congratulations, you are a victim of African American propaganda
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well, I must admit I dident think we would share anything, but we have the same dog.
I dont think anyone with a TV and even mild interest in dogs Dont know who Cesar Milan is, where he lives or how many dogs he have. If you read Cesar Milan's books you would also know that they were not born submissive.
I dont even know why you disagree.. well I know why.. its because its me
But I'm saying the same as you re. "submissive" or "in charge"
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- Actually i agreed with you. Most PIT owners are shit, no retraction. Didn't say most humans are shit. When i say that most PIT owners are shit - I'am referring to the MTV, gangster wanna-be propaganda you speak of. Most people who want to raise a Pit do it just for that reason ... they arnt doing it to have a good friend in their pet, they do it cas - some fuckin rapper trys to make it look like the gangster thing to do. Those people, those exact wanna-be's are SHIT! I keep saying most, as not all Pit owners are like this, there are sensible, responsible people who own Pits. The sensible people usually tend to take proper care of them, and not feed them gun powder or spray stuffed animals with blood and teach them to kill.Humans kill more people a year than any animal. Does that make all humans shit according to your own logic?
If they would quit putting Pit bulls and gangsters in the same set on MTV then you wouldn't even be considering making this post.
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you ok man? i havent seen you go off like this before it's kinda scaring me...it's fn hilarious tho
@skrink there are no sides with logic/reasoning and he got you there...mabye overplaying it a lil but he's right, reread what you wrote in both the posts he referred to...
imo you may not own one now but you did...and your opinion is more than likely skewed by your affection for the breed as with almost all pit owners that reply...not saying you are wrong but people are leaving out some of the picture and only blaming humans...
@ everyone mostly the pit owners...granted the largest % of the blame goes to the humans but don't forget to include every aspect when painting your pictures
and for the record i breed dogs
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