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  • Idigmygirls
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2007
    • 498
    #1

    AFF Going Out of Business - what will you do?

    According to CNet, and as many of us suspected, the AFF/Penthouse IPO that was announced earlier this week is a "Hail Mary" to try to avoid bankruptcy for their almost $450 million of debt.

    It seems that they may have to pull all of their advertising, and, if they were to go bankrupt, they may be able to avoid paying out any amounts that they owe people on their affiliate programs.

    If that all plays out, lots of us will have lots of ad space (and we'll be owed a ton of money). What will you do?

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-101...orsPicksArea.0
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    • NaughtyRob
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      • Nov 2004
      • 29602
      #2
      The IPO will save them.
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        • brassmonkey
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          • Sep 2005
          • 77396
          #3
          thank god they paid me i took down all links
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            • Robbie
              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
              • Aug 2002
              • 20960
              #4
              Here is a cool quote: "We have never generated significant revenue from internet advertising and may not be able to in the future."

              Hello illegitimate tube sites and all torrent sites. Those pre-paid spots are coming to an end soon. Good luck on finding advertising to replace them.
              -Robbie
              ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                • Jarmusch
                   
                  • May 2003
                  • 12479
                  #5
                  Good news for illegal tube sites

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                    • Barefootsies
                      Choice is an Illusion
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 42635
                      #6
                      I will get a lot of popcorn, and watch the tube site business model crumble (if they do not survive),

                      ...and chuckle as many many people head back to the fry cook jobs and McDonalds. Where they belonged anyway. A lot of people in adult, as well as the online game as a whole, do not have any fucking business sense what so ever.

                      They had no business being in business in the first place.

                      Anyone who thinks that giving away the store for free, in order to sell someone something is a good business practice, should rightfully so, be back at head fry cook. Which is where many are headed.

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                        • WiredGuy
                          Pounding Googlebot
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 34512
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Robbie
                          Here is a cool quote: "We have never generated significant revenue from internet advertising and may not be able to in the future."

                          Hello illegitimate tube sites and all torrent sites. Those pre-paid spots are coming to an end soon. Good luck on finding advertising to replace them.
                          Post the whole paragraph this is in reference to:

                          Ad revenue of $152,356 a month for the nine months ending September 30 is skimpy. The company is hoping to change that, but acknowledges: "We have never generated significant revenue from internet advertising and may not be able to in the future."

                          That reference I believe is saying AFF is only making $150k/mn off advertising within their members area traffic. I don't think that's referencing to any media buying.
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                            • polish_aristocrat
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 40377
                              #8
                              I didn't read these stories.... but... is AFF losing money? wtf?
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                                • Violetta
                                  Affiliate
                                  • Jul 2004
                                  • 28735
                                  #9
                                  blame the tubes!
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                                    • maxjohan
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 7219
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                      I didn't read these stories.... but... is AFF losing money? wtf?
                                      about $30 million or so a year.

                                      I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

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                                        • Robbie
                                          Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 20960
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                          Post the whole paragraph this is in reference to:




                                          That reference I believe is saying AFF is only making $150k/mn off advertising within their members area traffic. I don't think that's referencing to any media buying.
                                          WG
                                          You could very well be right. But I don't remember there being a whole lot of advertising in their members area. I haven't been in there in a few years though.

                                          One way or another though, I would have to assume that the huge amounts of money that they threw out to build up traffic numbers is going to have to stop.

                                          I personally wish AFF good things. Worked with them a long, long time and made good money together. But if they have to stop the pre-paid spots to torrents and illegit tubes I won't shed a tear. And it will help AFF to become solvent again while at the same time helping to send torrents and illegit tubes down the....tubes.
                                          -Robbie
                                          ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                            • Qbert
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jun 2004
                                              • 813
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                              I didn't read these stories.... but... is AFF losing money? wtf?
                                              Average earnings of $19.06 per member while paying $130 PPS. You do the math.

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                                                • pocketkangaroo
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                  • 8452
                                                  #13
                                                  Have to wonder about all those people who have revshare with their sites.

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                                                    • HandballJim
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Sep 2008
                                                      • 4024
                                                      #14
                                                      With their member base and traffic you still have value...and the IPO would do well in a bull market. With this financial mess...stocks with cures for diseases are not even jumping.

                                                      I do know when you sign up as an affiliate with cams.com you get to promote a bunch of other sites and AFF is one of them? Does anyone know which sites can be affected by this? Is Cams.com one of them? Just trying to understand the whole picture here. Thanks
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                                                        • IllTestYourGirls
                                                          Ah My Balls
                                                          • Feb 2007
                                                          • 14311
                                                          #15
                                                          Tube sites are stealing their content and causing sales to go down.

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                                                            • mynameisjim
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2007
                                                              • 2985
                                                              #16
                                                              I have a hard time believing that IPO will go through. Here are my list of problems they have.

                                                              1) The business model has yet to make much money and it's best days are clearly behind them.

                                                              2) The barrier for entry for competitors is pretty low in their market space. You would be better off starting a dating site from scratch then getting on board with all that debt just to acquire a fading brand name.

                                                              3) They advertise heavily on illegal sites that are a) filled with stolen copyrighted material and b) provide full length hardcore movies to children.

                                                              4) Then of course, it just seems like a shitty IPO. Maybe in 1997 they could of glossed over all their problems, but not today.

                                                              Anyway, I hope webmasters don't lose money but if a big part of your income comes from AFF, you should be working overtime right now to find new sponsors.
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                                                                • fris
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                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 55679
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Tube sites are gonna have to find prepaid deals elsewhere
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                                                                    • marketsmart
                                                                      HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                      • 20419
                                                                      #18
                                                                      i hope they go BK and stop paying affiliates..

                                                                      it will be the ultimate fuck you to people that did business with a company that profits from theft...

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                                                                        • Robbie
                                                                          Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                          • 20960
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by fris
                                                                          Tube sites are gonna have to find prepaid deals elsewhere
                                                                          Well, right now they are making a small amount on selling traffic to brokers. But nothing like the amount of a pre-paid spot from AFF. For the moment it doesn't look good for illegit tubes and all thieving torrent sites.
                                                                          -Robbie
                                                                          ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                            • DaddyHalbucks
                                                                              A freakin' legend!
                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                              • 18975
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by mynameisjim

                                                                              Anyway, I hope webmasters don't lose money but if a big part of your income comes from AFF, you should be working overtime right now to find new sponsors.
                                                                              A few good ones are listed here:

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                                                                                • DamageX
                                                                                  Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                  • 14293
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Throw a party.
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                                                                                    • The Duck
                                                                                      Adult Content Provider
                                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                                      • 18243
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      How the hell? I thought AFF where raking in the dough.
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                                                                                        • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                                                          Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                                                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                                                          • 38323
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          OMG!!!

                                                                                          Check out this interesting piece from Forbes:

                                                                                          Here?s The Tech IPO You?ve Been Looking For: A Debt-Ridden Collection of Porn Sites And Social Networks

                                                                                          What kind of tech and media company tries to go public in this economy? A tech and media company with no other options.

                                                                                          That?s the story behind yesterday?s filing by FriendFinder Networks Inc., a collection of porn sites and adult networks that wants to raise $460 million via the public markets.

                                                                                          Given that the media industry is in the dumps, the tech IPO market was closed even before the economy?s collapse and that the prospects of floating any kind of offering in the public markets is dicey at best, it would be hard to find a worse time to try this route. But FriendFinder doesn?t have much choice: It has very little cash and a lot of debt.

                                                                                          The details: The money-losing company has $43 million in cash, and $420 million in short-term debt. Some of that debt is already in default and the company has breached loan covenants for some loans as well. Presumably the company can?t find anyone to lend it that much, so it?s hoping that the equity markets step up.

                                                                                          If investors bail it out, almost all of the IPO proceeds will go to paying down that debt. If not? well, that ?could have a material adverse effect on our ability to continue as a going concern.?

                                                                                          Anyone still thinking about helping out Daniel C. Staton and Marc H. Bell, who run the company and own more than half of its equity? Read the full registration statement here.

                                                                                          [UPDATE: FriendFinder investors get a bonus: Partial ownership of a $95,000 car the company bought from a founder a couple years ago for $125,000.]
                                                                                          Weren't these guys involved somehow in the iBill debacle?



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                                                                                            • HandballJim
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Sep 2008
                                                                                              • 4024
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              I wonder how much $$$ they would get for their domain names at Internext Expo auction in January? Cams.com would fetch at least a million dollars in my opinion.

                                                                                              A friend of mine met a ton of girls on AFF and said most just wanted sex like him...but stressed all those girls were fucked up in the head.
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                                                                                                • teomaxxx
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                  • 2737
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by GetNaughty
                                                                                                  The IPO will save them.
                                                                                                  yeah, there will be enough suckers in current enviroment willing to loose another 50% or more with the IPO in the company for which the only way how to prevent a default on loan is IPO .
                                                                                                  good luck to AFF

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                                                                                                    • teomaxxx
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                      • 2737
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by teomaxxx
                                                                                                      yeah, there will be enough suckers in current enviroment willing to loose another 50% or more with the IPO in the company for which the only way how to prevent a default on loan is IPO .
                                                                                                      good luck to AFF
                                                                                                      and i forgot to add:
                                                                                                      while everyone and his gradmamma is replacing his/her aff links right now...

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                                                                                                        • TeenCat
                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a koala
                                                                                                          • Jan 2007
                                                                                                          • 16139
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          and why are they still offering 130pps? why dont cut it to half or so? whats the deal?

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                                                                                                            • HandballJim
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Sep 2008
                                                                                                              • 4024
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              I did not hear anyone say yet they did not get paid...it sucks ass to remove and replace the codes. I am going to wait and see how this plays out...
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                                                                                                                • mineistaken
                                                                                                                  See signature :)
                                                                                                                  • Apr 2007
                                                                                                                  • 29656
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  good news, every shady sponsor supporting illegal tubes, torrents, even CP ones, stealing using zango and so on should go down. And I am not sorry for anyone promoting them and not getting paid if that happens. Karma strikes back

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                                                                                                                    • tigermtb
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                      • 1062
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      We don't do any business with AFF. So I won't notice
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                                                                                                                        • DamageX
                                                                                                                          Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                          • 14293
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by HandballJim
                                                                                                                          I did not hear anyone say yet they did not get paid...
                                                                                                                          YET. Wanna be the first?
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                                                                                                                            • tiger
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                              • 6986
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Very interesting read.

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                                                                                                                                • sortie
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                                                                                                  • 7771
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                                                                  YET. Wanna be the first?



                                                                                                                                  Ya know, I dropped AFF way back when they had some issue.
                                                                                                                                  It's been so long that I don't remember the facts about the issue.
                                                                                                                                  Maybe it was a law suit; can't remember; but I decided that they were thru then
                                                                                                                                  so this is no surprise now.

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                                                                                                                                    • Eservices2k3
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 361
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                                                                                                      i hope they go BK and stop paying affiliates..

                                                                                                                                      it will be the ultimate fuck you to people that did business with a company that profits from theft...
                                                                                                                                      Care to be a little more specific in regards to them being "a company that profits from theft"?
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                                                                                                                                        • GUNNER
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 2114
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                                                                          Throw a party.
                                                                                                                                          and send AFF the bill.

                                                                                                                                          I hope they go under, I hope they fucking implode... and soon.
                                                                                                                                          gunner @tutamail.com
                                                                                                                                          25 years in the jizz biz

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                                                                                                                                            • Iron Fist
                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                              • 23400
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by tigermtb
                                                                                                                                              We don't do any business with AFF. So I won't notice
                                                                                                                                              I signed up.. sent 100 hits... never looked back. Fuck em they suck.
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                                                                                                                                                • KillerK
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • May 2008
                                                                                                                                                  • 3406
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                                                                                  Here is a cool quote: "We have never generated significant revenue from internet advertising and may not be able to in the future."

                                                                                                                                                  Hello illegitimate tube sites and all torrent sites. Those pre-paid spots are coming to an end soon. Good luck on finding advertising to replace them.
                                                                                                                                                  Too bad the spots on the torrents aren't prepaid.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Hank_Heartland
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 3987
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      This is starting to sound like a 'take the money and run' IPO to me
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                                                                                                                                                        • Hank_Heartland
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                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 3987
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by GUNNER
                                                                                                                                                          and send AFF the bill.

                                                                                                                                                          I hope they go under, I hope they fucking implode... and soon.
                                                                                                                                                          Damn Gunner, you sound hostile today
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                                                                                                                                                            • GUNNER
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 2114
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Hank_Heartland
                                                                                                                                                              Damn Gunner, you sound hostile today
                                                                                                                                                              yea, had some bad news right around the holiday so I'm grumpy.

                                                                                                                                                              although, even in a good mood I don't like them. IMO, w/o their financial support of the illegal piracy/tube sites, that stuff wouldn't be nearly as big as it is. Hopefully they're soon Absolutely Fucking Finished


                                                                                                                                                              on another note, Hank I hope you're doing well and enjoying that winter wonderland.
                                                                                                                                                              It was sunny and 60 today in LA
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                                                                                                                                                                • SomeCreep
                                                                                                                                                                  :glugglug
                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 26118
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Everyone is overlooking the obvious here. Myspace.com and other free social networking sites are killing paid dating sites. It's just a matter of time before all paid dating sites lose so much of their market share, they're no longer relevant players in the dating game.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • HomerSimpson
                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                      • 13826
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                                                                                                      I will get a lot of popcorn, and watch the tube site business model crumble
                                                                                                                                                                      same here...
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                                                                                                                                                                        • HomerSimpson
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                          • 13826
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                                                                                                          Everyone is overlooking the obvious here. Myspace.com and other free social networking sites are killing paid dating sites. It's just a matter of time before all paid dating sites lose so much of their market share, they're no longer relevant players in the dating game.
                                                                                                                                                                          yeah but MySpace is not Adult dating site for people looking for sex partners than rather friend social network, just as FB so there is still room for adult dating sites...
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Aussie Rebel
                                                                                                                                                                              Blow Me U Geeks
                                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 5108
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              AFF Going Out of Business - what will you do?
                                                                                                                                                                              Personally I will laugh my fucking ass off

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                                                                                                                                                                                • tony299
                                                                                                                                                                                  lurker
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 57021
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                                                                                                                  Everyone is overlooking the obvious here. Myspace.com and other free social networking sites are killing paid dating sites. It's just a matter of time before all paid dating sites lose so much of their market share, they're no longer relevant players in the dating game.
                                                                                                                                                                                  yep http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...120_688300.htm

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Hank_Heartland
                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 3987
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by GUNNER
                                                                                                                                                                                      yea, had some bad news right around the holiday so I'm grumpy.

                                                                                                                                                                                      although, even in a good mood I don't like them. IMO, w/o their financial support of the illegal piracy/tube sites, that stuff wouldn't be nearly as big as it is. Hopefully they're soon Absolutely Fucking Finished


                                                                                                                                                                                      on another note, Hank I hope you're doing well and enjoying that winter wonderland.
                                                                                                                                                                                      It was sunny and 60 today in LA
                                                                                                                                                                                      And it's raining and 60 here today...but the snow is melting and there's water everywhere

                                                                                                                                                                                      Other than that...I'm OK
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • jakethedog
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 2497
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          This was expected .. I am glad ..and it feels to me like Santa just dropped me off one quick present before heading back up north for the year .. YAAAAA
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Machete_
                                                                                                                                                                                              WINNING!
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 14579
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Eservices2k3
                                                                                                                                                                                              Care to be a little more specific in regards to them being "a company that profits from theft"?
                                                                                                                                                                                              1 - fake profiles with model content they haven't paid for tricks people to sign up
                                                                                                                                                                                              2 - They allow torrent, warez and stolen member area sites to send them traffic

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • crockett
                                                                                                                                                                                                  in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 76818
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by HandballJim
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I did not hear anyone say yet they did not get paid...it sucks ass to remove and replace the codes. I am going to wait and see how this plays out...
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Well lets just hope you aren't the first one whom makes tht post..



                                                                                                                                                                                                  Anyway I won't have to do a thing if they go out of business because I wouldn't promote them because of their support of tubes,torrents and all the other BS that hurts my profits.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'd say good riddance if they go under, but that's just my opinion.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Aussie Rebel
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Blow Me U Geeks
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by ebus_dk
                                                                                                                                                                                                      2 - They allow torrent, warez and stolen member area sites to send them traffic
                                                                                                                                                                                                      And those same sites are raping there danni.com site and posting full site rips, They need to control there pirates better

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