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Martin 12-20-2008 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15223687)
Pretty sure penguins are closer to the South Pole. I don't ever remember seeing any polar bears eating penguins on the Discovery Channel.

Yeah they're from the South Pole. I got them mixed up.

Grapesoda 12-20-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 15222846)
is cinco an official US holiday was wondering that

they tried getting the sugarday for muslims an official holiday in Holland, didnt really work out...

beats me, they all celibate it anyway

TTiger 12-20-2008 01:17 PM

bookmarked :)

CarlosTheGaucho 12-20-2008 01:46 PM

For those who missed it,

This thread is not about muslims or any other ethnic group, not even about minorities in general.

It's about immigrants that misuse the welfare system of the country they moved in, it's about not respecting the community rules, and it's about frequent misuse of the "anti-discriminational" laws.

biskoppen 12-20-2008 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 15224033)
For those who missed it,

This thread is not about muslims or any other ethnic group, not even about minorities in general.

It's about immigrants that misuse the welfare system of the country they moved in, it's about not respecting the community rules, and it's about frequent misuse of the "anti-discriminational" laws.

That is correct, it has nothing to do with the religion what so ever..

Sly 12-20-2008 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 15224033)
For those who missed it,

This thread is not about muslims or any other ethnic group, not even about minorities in general.

It's about immigrants that misuse the welfare system of the country they moved in, it's about not respecting the community rules, and it's about frequent misuse of the "anti-discriminational" laws.

This is pretty much correct. It's easy for people to say "you are racist!", but that really isn't the case. People are tired of feeling taken advantage of when they are having a tough enough time making it on their own... the feeling is "why are we giving so much to these people, being shat on, all the while we can barely make our own ends meet?" And this leads to negative attitudes which turns into "racism"...

As an American, it seems like daily I am reading about teen riots and whatnot happening in Europe. Now a European may say "yeh and daily I read about Americans getting shot to death"... yes, this is true, but it is a significant difference. When an American gets shot and killed it is a couple idiots being stupid, quite frankly... based on the numbers, yes we have a lot of idiots being stupid. :-)

In these European teen riots I see a mass mentality of anger and frustration... but why? Why do these teens feel so damn entitled? Why do they feel that since one thing doesn't go their way, they have the right to cause riots and disrupt their city, their nation, and hell in many cases the whole European Union as a whole? What in the hell is going on with these kids?

I was watching a show last night, it was fictional but I thought it was interesting nonetheless... there was a French early twentysomething telling a distinguished American way the Americans are wrong and the French were right in so many ways. They specifically were talking about economics and politics. The French man was talking about people going off and having fun, enjoying life... which they should certainly do... but the American brought up that there is a 25% unemployment rate with the younger generation of French. So while the 25% are off "enjoying life", somebody else is paying for that and at some point that cash flow is going to stop and somebody, somewhere is going to have to work for it. Who is that going to be?

AtlantisCash 12-20-2008 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by imabro (Post 15223659)
you will have muslim president in 10 years


What's wrong with that?

sortie 12-20-2008 02:20 PM

Well, just draw some more cartoons and that'll fix things.

James124 12-20-2008 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by biskoppen (Post 15224039)
That is correct, it has nothing to do with the religion what so ever..

No, but when tension/fear starts to increase the muslims will look to Islam. This is inevitable! Islam(The Koran) has a roadmap, that describes who gets slaugthered when the time comes. The Imams are standing by, waiting, doing a little math. At one point there'll be more muslims in Denmark, and then there will be a blood bath.

Islam is a perfect control instrument, and what it imposes on it's followers is not unlike a personality disorder. I don't give a shit about race, but some religions I have a problem with. A worldview like Islam is designed to keep people living in fear, women as slaves, etc.
When shit hits the fan I hope I have enough money to take my family far away, because our way of life is about to go; swapped out for sharia; aint nothing you or anybody else can do about it now...

AtlantisCash 12-20-2008 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 15224033)
For those who missed it,

This thread is not about muslims or any other ethnic group, not even about minorities in general.

It's about immigrants that misuse the welfare system of the country they moved in, it's about not respecting the community rules, and it's about frequent misuse of the "anti-discriminational" laws.


Thats where I'm trying to lead this thread; because this thread title is Misleading...

and if i would say about immigrants, if i where You (Americans, Europeans), no doubt i would kick back to their countries all those scums who commits crime, but it's not enough also, You should re regulate Your immigration laws as Do not accepting immigrants without education and skills or at least You should make kind of examination that if the person have any psychiatric problems or what so ever.

the real solution is time for You to knock Your polititions door, but name calling to a riligion or an ethnic group will never solve this matter.

on the other hand, as i know many citizens at Europe, US and other developped countries are not going to vote at elections, can You tell me how will You shout Your problems loud other then going to vote for elections?

if You don't make any benefit to polititions, do You think they will listen You?

name calling only will make more problems, but with legal ways You can still do a lot.

crockett 12-20-2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 15222809)
the mecxicans here wanna have chinco de mayo and a few other holidays etc.. . they don't want to destroy civilization like the Muslims. that's the main difference.

Yea but it's not just the religion, that's just the scape goat that is being used. Other wise they would be pushing the same stuff here in the US. Religion is just the rallying point for them because it's what they all have in common.

AtlantisCash 12-20-2008 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by James124 (Post 15224166)
No, but when tension/fear starts to increase the muslims will look to Islam. This is inevitable! Islam(The Koran) has a roadmap, that describes who gets slaugthered when the time comes. The Imams are standing by, waiting, doing a little math. At one point there'll be more muslims in Denmark, and then there will be a blood bath.

Islam is a perfect control instrument, and what it imposes on it's followers is not unlike a personality disorder. I don't give a shit about race, but some religions I have a problem with. A worldview like Islam is designed to keep people living in fear, women as slaves, etc.
When shit hits the fan I hope I have enough money to take my family far away, because our way of life is about to go; swapped out for sharia; aint nothing you or anybody else can do about it now...



Do You know about Islam really?

and You should be knowing that people might be control with going nuts of any religion, political view and what ever, Look at the wrong actions of crusaders in the history.

CarlosTheGaucho 12-20-2008 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 15224068)
In these European teen riots I see a mass mentality of anger and frustration... but why? Why do these teens feel so damn entitled? Why do they feel that since one thing doesn't go their way, they have the right to cause riots and disrupt their city, their nation, and hell in many cases the whole European Union as a whole? What in the hell is going on with these kids?

You would have to be more specific, Europe really is a mixture of different countries with totally different cultural and economical background, therefore also totally different trouble.

brassmonkey 12-20-2008 03:15 PM

damn glad i dont live there

_Richard_ 12-20-2008 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15222748)
I think it Europe it has more to do with poverty and racism than anything else. While in a sense the Muslims in Europe are the Mexicans of the US. Meaning they are the largest group of immigrants that flood into the various countries so they aren't really welcomed.

Here in the US even though it seems like everyone in the Middle East hates our guts, when Muslims come here they have every opportunity to make their own life. They for the most part fit in and really don't cause much problems as a group.

This means they don't have to isolate themselves and stay in their own little groups, so they end up learning to fit in. However looking at Mexicans here in the us, with so many illegals they really aren't welcomed, so they stay in their little groups and never fit in.

that's an interesting point

baddog 12-20-2008 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 15224300)
You should re regulate Your immigration laws as Do not accepting immigrants without education and skills or at least You should make kind of examination that if the person have any psychiatric problems or what so ever.

I agree, but the world would give us crap if we did that too.

d-null 12-20-2008 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 15224332)
Do You know about Islam really?

and You should be knowing that people might be control with going nuts of any religion, political view and what ever, Look at the wrong actions of crusaders in the history.

I can only imagine the bs that is probably taught about the crusaders and history in general in your country :2 cents:

D Ghost 12-20-2008 05:21 PM

Damn thats whack....

Ethersync 12-20-2008 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 15222763)
...if you cant make it in the EU theres always a shitload of funding to apply for.

Which isn't much an incentive to work hard :2 cents:

Kudles 12-22-2008 06:22 PM

Thats horrible

WarChild 12-22-2008 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 15224332)
Do You know about Islam really?

and You should be knowing that people might be control with going nuts of any religion, political view and what ever, Look at the wrong actions of crusaders in the history.

Yeah, only that ended more than 700 years ago. I see your point though, but it's going to be another 1000 years or so before most Muslims are as advanced as Christians in the 1200s.

In reality, most muslim countries are less advanced than Rome at the time of Christ's death. That's 2000 years you stone aged fuckers need to make up. Better get on it.

chodadog 12-22-2008 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15222037)
this is what i believe:

if you come to a country you should be forced to assimilate. and it does not matter about your race, you fucking assimilate or you go back home. if you do not plan being apart of that countries customs you have no point in being there longterm.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. go back home and try to make it better if your land is so fucking holy. other then that kiss your ass and thank whoever the fuck your god is that you are out of the fucking warzone.

So, will you be adopting the traditions of the Peigan, Kainaiwa or the Siksika?

polle54 12-22-2008 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by biskoppen (Post 15222002)
During the last 10-15 years Denmark is daily the scene of shootings, knife stabbings, gang attacks, home robberies, rapes & beating in general..

80% or so of this are committed by the muslim youth.. (alot of the home robberies are done by people from eastern Europe though)

When it comes to shootings and knife stabbing I think we're talking 99% done by muslims..

So.. the funny party here is...

Is this a theme in Denmark in general.. do the media talk about we have a problem with this? No... in fact alot of medias tend to just mention all this stuff as just another "young person who committed a crime".

Is this a theme talked about by the politicians in Denmark even though it's right now destroying our country? Nooo... a politician can not talk about stuff like this without the opposition pointing fingers and calling the person out as a racist.

Our nationl, tax sponsored, radio & television station called DR, which is not allowed to pro any political parties in their air time, are extremly left wing and do everything they can do bash the parties on the right side of the middle.. they just wrap it in "sketches" and other kinds of humor shit.. because then it's ok.. it's "just for fun".. it's sooo fucking sick..

80% of young people put before a judge in our capital are muslims.. and thats even though they only make our around 3% of the population... WTF?!?!

But Denmark doesn't have a muslim problem.. noooooo :)

15 years ago you could walk any street at any time of day being 100% safe here.. now? forget it.. daily knife stabbings and shootings taking place.. old people getting stolen from by people hired to take care of them.. teachers in schools getting threatent.. kids getting their money, phones and bikes stolen on their way home from school...

There's the new Denmark for you.. in a situation that the world is not told about, because no one fucking wants to get called a racist..

There are lots of nice emigrant in Denmark.. but the problems with the bad part right now is just so overwelming...

How does it look in your european country?

The strong media angle on this subject in Denmark seems to have scared you a little too much mate.

I live in Aarhus near Gellerup and sure I hear a lot of people talking shit but I have yet to see a shooting or a knife stabbing. I am out drinking around 1 time each week and I get shitfaced and take black taxies with big muslim guys as drivers home. The usually ask interested to a lot of things and are in general polite if you can look away from the abusive language :)

Anyway my point beeing: How many assults have you witnessed? how common do you really think it is?

Most shootings has been against emigrant gangs done by AK81 and Hells Angels btw. Those are NON muslim.

Also I dont think the most hardcore 2nd generation emigrant gangs have any connection to Islam.

Anyway we do have a poor integration radically disimproved by patriotism and ignorence.

JP-pornshooter 12-22-2008 07:12 PM

just a short comment to this post.

Denmark is historically a "tribe", they and their territory goes way back to ancient times.
This tribe is not "designed" to accept new people (outsiders) into the community (unlike USA by example).

Religion (islam or muslim) has nothing to do with this.
But these people who have a muslim or foreign origin also are very strong in their culture and do not want to assimilate to danish ways, they even refuse the danish authority in many instances.

AtlantisCash 12-22-2008 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15234268)
Yeah, only that ended more than 700 years ago. I see your point though, but it's going to be another 1000 years or so before most Muslims are as advanced as Christians in the 1200s.

In reality, most muslim countries are less advanced than Rome at the time of Christ's death. That's 2000 years you stone aged fuckers need to make up. Better get on it.


Then You're being "Too New Aged" When You pointing Your fingers to people's eyes, Thanks.

AtlantisCash 12-22-2008 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter (Post 15234435)
just a short comment to this post.

Denmark is historically a "tribe", they and their territory goes way back to ancient times.
This tribe is not "designed" to accept new people (outsiders) into the community (unlike USA by example).

Religion (Islam or muslim) has nothing to do with this.
But these people who have a muslim or foreign origin also are very strong in their culture and do not want to assimilate to danish ways, they even refuse the danish authority in many instances.



So True, but i don't think any community should be assimilated as a solution, trying to assimilate a community, will give worse results then What's Currently out their.

rowan 12-22-2008 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash (Post 15222803)
we have our share of illegal ppl as well but not as many as AZ for instance. They try to get legalised otherwise theres nothing to apply for.

just checked

alleenstaande ouder: 56,63 euro (negentig procent van het minimumloon);

one parent 56.63 euro 90% of the min wages

this is what anyone gets aka
1680 Euros = 2 330.664 US$ monthly

We're talking about govt help, right? What do you have to do to get 1680 euros a month? That level of cash is funding a semi-decent lifestyle, not just a stop-gap pick me up until they get a job... I bet a lot of people don't even WANT a job with that amount of $ coming in. :helpme

CamTraffic 12-22-2008 10:54 PM

same in france and spain
Only people to blame for that is... your own country
They were brought in to boost the economy after WW2

montel 12-23-2008 12:12 AM

who would have thought brining in uneducated poor people people would cause problems!?!? get a means based immigration system that lets people in based on education/wealth. this is being used in Australia and is relatively effective. refugee intake is another question altogether.

Cash 12-23-2008 01:24 AM

You do have a problem indeed, I know how it's like to have foreigners in your area invading your peace with their BS habits ...

biskoppen 12-23-2008 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by polle54 (Post 15234364)
The strong media angle on this subject in Denmark seems to have scared you a little too much mate.

I live in Aarhus near Gellerup and sure I hear a lot of people talking shit but I have yet to see a shooting or a knife stabbing. I am out drinking around 1 time each week and I get shitfaced and take black taxies with big muslim guys as drivers home. The usually ask interested to a lot of things and are in general polite if you can look away from the abusive language :)

Anyway my point beeing: How many assults have you witnessed? how common do you really think it is?

Most shootings has been against emigrant gangs done by AK81 and Hells Angels btw. Those are NON muslim.

Also I dont think the most hardcore 2nd generation emigrant gangs have any connection to Islam.

Anyway we do have a poor integration radically disimproved by patriotism and ignorence.

You're completly wrong and don't have your facts straight.. I'm not gonna spend any more time on this thread as it turned into a talk about religion which this is not about..

But you're statement about ak81/ha being the ones behind most of the shootings is just plain wrong... I have no idea where you got that from... they only make out like 5% of it or so

tranza 12-23-2008 03:58 AM

http://www.lahiguera.net/cinemania/a...am_sandler.jpg

Really, I'm tired of violence, humans are sick.

AtlantisCash 12-23-2008 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by montel (Post 15235251)
who would have thought brining in uneducated poor people people would cause problems!?!? get a means based immigration system that lets people in based on education/wealth. this is being used in Australia and is relatively effective. refugee intake is another question altogether.


Yes, i said something simillar at one of my posts above, Making new regulations based on education and welth will solve lots of problems...

polle54 12-23-2008 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by biskoppen (Post 15235527)
You're completly wrong and don't have your facts straight.. I'm not gonna spend any more time on this thread as it turned into a talk about religion which this is not about..

But you're statement about ak81/ha being the ones behind most of the shootings is just plain wrong... I have no idea where you got that from... they only make out like 5% of it or so

Please show or refer to your sources in forms of links and books.

I dont think one single number in your opening post was correct either my friend.

polle54 12-23-2008 05:15 AM

However, as I might ad, I re-read my post from last night and it sounds a bit like I don't think we have a big issue in Denmark.

I do think we have a problem with young emigrants from the middle east and they are overrepresented in the violence stats.

hahmike 12-23-2008 05:16 AM

With all the violence going on in the world, I just can't imagine why someone hasn't nuked the absolute fuck out of Mecca yet.

The only thing I can think of, is that muslims are behind 99% of the violence worldwide.

viencarl 12-23-2008 05:43 AM

I have a muslim friends and they are too friendly but beware don't make them mad because they have big guts to hurt others. :):):)

CarlosTheGaucho 12-23-2008 05:59 AM

Another example how a bad choice of the thread title immediately leads to a xenophobic trollfest.

bloggingseo 12-23-2008 06:39 AM

I disagree that illegal mexicans aren't coming here for free shit. They get the free healthcare and food stamps and free education for their children without paying any taxes. They work under the table for cash, 90 plus percent of the time. Yes some of them do work but not all of them. I think they come here for the free food and medicaid , that's my thoughts. I will say not all of them though> Some of them are good people !

biskoppen 12-23-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by polle54 (Post 15235810)
Please show or refer to your sources in forms of links and books.

I dont think one single number in your opening post was correct either my friend.

Here you go -> http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/article.php/id-1700989.html

"Tal fra Københavns Politis statistiske afdeling viser, at unge indvandrere nu tegner sig for 82 pct. af grundlovsforhahørene. Unge danskeres andel udgør 18 pct."

Google translated :
"Figures from the Copenhagen police department statistics show that young immigrants now account for 82 percent. of grundlovsfor-heard. Young Danes share is 18 percent."

About shootings by AK18 vs. imigrants I dont think there's any public statistics about it.. but start counting here and the numbers should be pretty clear.. -> http://www.google.com/search?q=skyderi%20site:eb.dk

JP-pornshooter 12-23-2008 03:24 PM

btw statistics may often depict the wrong picture or is used to mis-represent or mislead.

an example: i have more feet than the average person.

doesnt mean i have more than two feet, but that is what is sounds like.
the average number of feet is less than two as there are some persons with no feet or with one foot only...

WarChild 12-23-2008 03:29 PM

I for one can't wait for oil to dry up in the Middle East. The suffering in that shit hole will make Africa look like the garden of Eden.

Jai 12-23-2008 04:55 PM

lets not focus on nations with a muslim problem, but the few that have no problem with muslims, so we can save them

polle54 12-30-2008 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by biskoppen (Post 15237645)
Here you go -> http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/article.php/id-1700989.html

"Tal fra Københavns Politis statistiske afdeling viser, at unge indvandrere nu tegner sig for 82 pct. af grundlovsforhahørene. Unge danskeres andel udgør 18 pct."

Google translated :
"Figures from the Copenhagen police department statistics show that young immigrants now account for 82 percent. of grundlovsfor-heard. Young Danes share is 18 percent."

About shootings by AK18 vs. imigrants I dont think there's any public statistics about it.. but start counting here and the numbers should be pretty clear.. -> http://www.google.com/search?q=skyderi%20site:eb.dk

Looks like i gotta give on this one, had no idea it was this fucked up.

RazorSharpe 12-30-2008 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15238301)
I for one can't wait for oil to dry up in the Middle East. The suffering in that shit hole will make Africa look like the garden of Eden.

I always figured you for a pretty educated person. Imagine my surprise when I ventured upon this post spewing hate and utter contempt for a whole group of fellow human beings. It's a sad day when your words and wishes seem torn from the same book of hate as the people you despise.


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