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F-U-Jimmy 12-18-2008 05:36 PM

First thing i see is that there is no lighting , it looks like available light to me, second thing is the light level is so low that the camera is hunting to find focus, thirdly it looks very much like this was shot at 15 FPS or maybe 20 FPS and then when its played back at 25 FPS it looks jumpy.

It looks very much like video shot in the 50s to me. The guy needs to get himself some new gear

mmcfadden 12-18-2008 06:32 PM

He's got a HD camcorder... that's what he is using to redo. I haven't the foggiest idea why he chose his older camera... The material is suppose to be "amateur style" (I Shot This Video) but def. not shitty quality due to bad camera.

I have 2 hours of content in different rooms and viewed various parts throughout on the lens of a couple cameras... every shot was jumpy, squares, lines, etc.

These digital camcorders with 8mm can film at different FPS?? I was looking at all the cameras to see if possibly there was a setting that would auto correct but couldn't find one.

Grapesoda 12-18-2008 06:34 PM

I've seen stuff like that on some of the tours around here $.02

Lace 12-18-2008 08:59 PM

Looks like some fucked up minidv tapes to me. Same shit my old canon zr cam did

Peter Romero 12-18-2008 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 15215420)
He's got a HD camcorder... that's what he is using to redo. I haven't the foggiest idea why he chose his older camera... The material is suppose to be "amateur style" (I Shot This Video) but def. not shitty quality due to bad camera.

I have 2 hours of content in different rooms and viewed various parts throughout on the lens of a couple cameras... every shot was jumpy, squares, lines, etc.

These digital camcorders with 8mm can film at different FPS?? I was looking at all the cameras to see if possibly there was a setting that would auto correct but couldn't find one.

Dude... stop. There are no 8mm High Definition (HD) camcorders. Wake up and smell the 1440X1080i resolution of a $7,000 High Definition Camera - it did not mate and make babies with a beaten-up and dropped 8mm consumer quality camera from the 80's. Go look in the mirror... Your guy is jerking you a good load and storing the tapes right up against a huge stereo speaker or magnet or he stepped on the tape or threw it up against a wall.

God... why is everyone clueless here? You are not protecting or developing the next Martin Scorsese of porn. He bought a cheap throw away camera at a pawn shop and sold you a bill of goods. I'm not mean - I'm just right. And you knew it too when you posted that clip. This thread is boring if everyone is in full flight from reality. I sold my first photograph when I was 12 years old - what the fuck do I know? Brian Michael Bradley prolly before that. There have been alot of technical responses from alot of people in the know to your questions and still you take the word of the guy who shot that? I'm starting to not feel sorry for you.

You get what you pay for - and then he embezzled you for $1700 and cashed your bonus check on top of it? Good luck to you and your "Content provider". I'm going to go chop down a Cherry tree and tell you Abe did it... can I shoot for you? Send me a check and a wire... I'll fake like I didn't get the check, spend the wire, and then cash the check too. Let's be friends!

2012 12-18-2008 09:26 PM

first 100k now this ... what the fuckover?:Oh crap

mmcfadden 12-18-2008 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Romero (Post 15215866)
Dude... stop. There are no 8mm High Definition (HD) camcorders.

im gonna stop my reading right now and and comment on this... then i'll go back and read the rest of your post.

He's got two cameras... the one he used was with 8mm tapes and turned out what is on the link... by the way... i think the link looks better then the original due to conversions kinda masked the lines and all the rest wrong with the film.

Second camera... is an HD camcorder... i think sony... gonna refilm with that one.

Peter Romero 12-18-2008 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 15215993)
im gonna stop my reading right now and and comment on this... then i'll go back and read the rest of your post.

He's got two cameras... the one he used was with 8mm tapes and turned out what is on the link... by the way... i think the link looks better then the original due to conversions kinda masked the lines and all the rest wrong with the film.

Second camera... is an HD camcorder... i think sony... gonna refilm with that one.

Dude... have a nice day. Done with this thread. Gotta get back to editing High Definition video @ 3000kbps. You wrestle with that video scramble thingy you posted. :thumbsup

mmcfadden 12-18-2008 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Romero (Post 15215866)
God... why is everyone clueless here? You are not protecting or developing the next Martin Scorsese of porn. He bought a cheap throw away camera at a pawn shop and sold you a bill of goods. I'm not mean - I'm just right. And you knew it too when you posted that clip. This thread is boring if everyone is in full flight from reality. I sold my first photograph when I was 12 years old - what the fuck do I know? Brian Michael Bradley prolly before that. There have been alot of technical responses from alot of people in the know to your questions and still you take the word of the guy who shot that? I'm starting to not feel sorry for you.

I've read every thread and don't believe the film was ever ok... cheers:thumbsup dont feel sorry... shit happens, he's making it right... i have enough self shot amateur film to know that the tape shouldn't look like that.

WarChild 12-18-2008 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Romero (Post 15215866)
Dude... stop. There are no 8mm High Definition (HD) camcorders. Wake up and smell the 1440X1080i resolution of a $7,000 High Definition Camera - it did not mate and make babies with a beaten-up and dropped 8mm consumer quality camera from the 80's. Go look in the mirror... Your guy is jerking you a good load and storing the tapes right up against a huge stereo speaker or magnet or he stepped on the tape or threw it up against a wall.

God... why is everyone clueless here? You are not protecting or developing the next Martin Scorsese of porn. He bought a cheap throw away camera at a pawn shop and sold you a bill of goods. I'm not mean - I'm just right. And you knew it too when you posted that clip. This thread is boring if everyone is in full flight from reality. I sold my first photograph when I was 12 years old - what the fuck do I know? Brian Michael Bradley prolly before that. There have been alot of technical responses from alot of people in the know to your questions and still you take the word of the guy who shot that? I'm starting to not feel sorry for you.

You get what you pay for - and then he embezzled you for $1700 and cashed your bonus check on top of it? Good luck to you and your "Content provider". I'm going to go chop down a Cherry tree and tell you Abe did it... can I shoot for you? Send me a check and a wire... I'll fake like I didn't get the check, spend the wire, and then cash the check too. Let's be friends!

You might consider reading what he actually posted again. You've missed some of it somehow.

Peter Romero 12-18-2008 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15216058)
You might consider reading what he actually posted again. You've missed some of it somehow.

This is what he posted and the ICQ convo: http://www.ishotthisvideo.com/phil/Phil-Kira_Kiss.wmv

nice work.

mmcfadden 12-18-2008 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Romero (Post 15216066)
This is what he posted and the ICQ convo: http://www.ishotthisvideo.com/phil/Phil-Kira_Kiss.wmv

nice work.

What r u talking about... that was the link to show the film. that's what everyone could see to comment on possible reasons for the result. ICQ... no. what's ur deal? How many more posts until you come out and say what you want to?

rayadp05 12-18-2008 11:01 PM

wow...that's horrible.

mikesouth 12-19-2008 12:47 AM

whoever shot that is a big enough idiot he could move to LA and get a distribution deal and AVN would hail him as the next great director.

seriously dirty heads, cheap misaligned heads, bad lighting, shot in auto mode without color balancing. And you would buy anything from this guy at any price? What gives you the impression that he is capable of shooting anything properly?

1700 for a boy/girl scene shot exclusively...you get what you pay for bro....

grumpy 12-19-2008 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 15211401)
An 8mm tape taken two weeks ago looks like this in original format...

http://www.ishotthisvideo.com/phil/Phil-Kira_Kiss.wmv

WTF is that?


I hope you didnt pay for that shit.

mmcfadden 12-19-2008 01:30 AM

i'll post when i get the new film...

hankphone 12-19-2008 01:50 AM

oh, ohh, oh.... just filled my belly button again

V_RocKs 12-19-2008 02:21 AM

Isn't 8MM what we shot the moon landing on?

sinclair 12-19-2008 09:36 AM

On a side not anyone interested in having the girl in the tape (Kira Kiss) shot professionally hit me up. She is local to me. :thumbsup

Sinclair

mmcfadden 12-28-2008 08:21 PM

wtf phil... where's my shit

c/c phil

SuzzyQ 12-28-2008 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15211598)
dirty heads

Tony, My husband said the same thing.

Dirty heads, dirty pinch roller and dirty tape path... The demod has too much luminance, setup level is too high..... The 'tape dropouts' look like dropped data in the d/a card.... That is, if it was shot on Beta SX.

Basically, it looks like total shit

mmcfadden 12-28-2008 09:15 PM

thanx suzzy... when i first posted i was looking for answers to legitimize the garbage. I hate to fuckin out people which is why i keep this post to first names...

for what it's worth though... if this guy fucks me (suppose to have vids this weekend and again no fucking contact from him) im gonna post his shit on this thread in an effort to prevent money spent in the fuckin garbage.

amacontent 12-28-2008 09:21 PM

you get what u pay for

munki 12-28-2008 09:24 PM

This thread is the anti deliver...

mmcfadden 12-28-2008 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 15255464)
you get what u pay for

why do you say that? i have worked with this guy in the past and i wanted amateur footage.

If he doesn't own up... how is that what I payed for? He ripped me off... didn't in the past... now has.

I know a shitload about this guy including a couple people in this thread talkin bad about him who... in past threads... talked about how great he and his gf was.

this thread is what it is... doesn't mean he'll be outted but i'll tell my story... over, and over,

mmcfadden 12-28-2008 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Romero (Post 15216066)
This is what he posted and the ICQ convo: http://www.ishotthisvideo.com/phil/Phil-Kira_Kiss.wmv

nice work.

mr pov peter should know exactly wtf im talking about

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-28-2008 09:45 PM

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...ien617/fap.jpg

So how many times have you watched that video? :upsidedow

ADG

mmcfadden 12-28-2008 09:52 PM

here we go... guess who?

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/852870-pov-porn-puffy-nip-hottie-codi-carmichael.html

mmcfadden 12-28-2008 09:57 PM

ohh... outta respect for mr pov peter... here is the other link ;)

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/852914-hot-amateur-babe-codi-carmichael-pov-porn.html

mmcfadden 12-28-2008 10:05 PM

what a bunch of bullshit phil... u suck!

amacontent 12-28-2008 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 15211561)
that's what I was thinking... the guy who gave me this has come to my house 3 times prior. I want to believe he didn't fuck me... but he got all the money prior... needed a wire transfer after a check was mailed. Sent the wire and he fucking cashed my check as well... he's got 16 hours to make things right.

This guy took your wire AND cashed your check. Typical porn scumbag who is it.

mmcfadden 12-28-2008 10:10 PM

i should just say right now... it's in the links though. fuck this shit man... thats almost 2k i blew... could have used that for alot better things this christmas :(

mmcfadden 12-28-2008 10:54 PM

i know ur reading this phil... got your entire email list brother

mmcfadden 12-28-2008 11:24 PM

duh.... message board... phil atlantic adult models...

mmcfadden 12-29-2008 11:08 PM

New day, new post.

Thanks phil from Atlantic Adult Models for sending me fucking bullshit tapes, begging for the wire transfer while you were in LA getting fuckin hosed by Codi, then cashing the check which you promised to rip up.

Thanks again for answering none of my calls when you were suppose to make right. I hope your dealings in '09 flourish but they won't. Sorry dickhead.

I've read so many posts on this forum about getting ripped off $100... $200. You have $1700 of my dollars.

Oh... btw... again, I have your whole fucking email list. Cheers

DirtyDanza 12-29-2008 11:53 PM

pay for cheap content thats what you get... I would not shoot for anyone for less than 2k my fee


plus girls fees

mmcfadden 12-30-2008 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 15260475)
pay for cheap content thats what you get... I would not shoot for anyone for less than 2k my fee


plus girls fees

please take this response as it is...

It doesn't fucking matter if I was to give 20K for a god damn 5 min. shoot. I have done business with phil in the past, meaning he brought me girls to film, I filmed them and then had the content. This time he has ripped me off to date. Meaning any dollar amount would have insignificant outcome to my current predicament. All that was required was for these girls to pick up a camera and film themselves.

This site is an amateur site... I WANT the amateur feel to the film.

BTW... I don't know who you provide content for but in the days when programs which use to make 25K a month now make 2K are your fees warranted? Just asking man

DirtyDanza 12-30-2008 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 15260489)
please take this response as it is...

It doesn't fucking matter if I was to give 20K for a god damn 5 min. shoot. I have done business with phil in the past, meaning he brought me girls to film, I filmed them and then had the content. This time he has ripped me off to date. Meaning any dollar amount would have insignificant outcome to my current predicament. All that was required was for these girls to pick up a camera and film themselves.

This site is an amateur site... I WANT the amateur feel to the film.

BTW... I don't know who you provide content for but in the days when programs which use to make 25K a month now make 2K are your fees warranted? Just asking man

if a program only made 2k a month I doubt they are buying exclusive content... or in business for that matter....

and as far as dollar amount for being ripped off.. I feel for you for being taken for even 1 dollar dood.. it's principal... don't steal...

on the other hand amateur feel or not... your talking 2 scenes for 1700 bucks? thats super cheap.. you can be mad as hell at no call back all you want.. but for that price the content was good..... 850 a scene? thats super cheap for exclusive content... shit that would be cheap for cell phone footage.. don't take it the wrong way.... im just saying if you got scenes for that cheap in the past and he just now ripped you off.. id say you still got your money worth in the long run...

as for who I shoot for... I am sure everyone would like to know who I am shooting for now a days besides myself...

they pay well, don't complain and make well over 2k a month but i'd never tell.. just if you hired me to shoot we'd have our NDA between the two of us and id never tell either would you....

im not saying im the best content shooter out there... many many better than I .... but I'm also damn sure ill give you a converting product to sell... you could pay a good shooter 4k per scene and you will make it back..

mmcfadden 12-30-2008 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 15260503)
if a program only made 2k a month I doubt they are buying exclusive content... or in business for that matter....

and as far as dollar amount for being ripped off.. I feel for you for being taken for even 1 dollar dood.. it's principal... don't steal...

on the other hand amateur feel or not... your talking 2 scenes for 1700 bucks? thats super cheap.. you can be mad as hell at no call back all you want.. but for that price the content was good..... 850 a scene? thats super cheap for exclusive content... shit that would be cheap for cell phone footage.. don't take it the wrong way.... im just saying if you got scenes for that cheap in the past and he just now ripped you off.. id say you still got your money worth in the long run...

as for who I shoot for... I am sure everyone would like to know who I am shooting for now a days besides myself...

they pay well, don't complain and make well over 2k a month but i'd never tell.. just if you hired me to shoot we'd have our NDA between the two of us and id never tell either would you....

im not saying im the best content shooter out there... many many better than I .... but I'm also damn sure ill give you a converting product to sell... you could pay a good shooter 4k per scene and you will make it back..

I will pay an amateur $500 per 8 hour day to be just that... an amateur. I do appreciate your feedback man but would be the last day in porn for me if I payed $850 for a fuzzy lined, colored squared, amateur film, piece of fucking shit, garbage asshole not even tube warranted vid... and considered myself lucky!

DirtyDanza 12-30-2008 12:29 AM

holy hell..I thought my jew partner was cheap.... maybe I need to partner up with you... where the hell you finding these idiots that are willing to work 8 hours for 500 bucks? I personally would not even look in my camera's direction for 500 bucks.. much less take it out of the closet and use it... again you get what you pay for just like BMW vs Mercedes you get what you pay for.. BMW is great Mercedes is shit but people still accept the mercedes cause thats what they paid for.. you wanted amateur you got it... why not just add amateur effects during post?


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