This is what he posted and the ICQ convo: http://www.ishotthisvideo.com/phil/Phil-Kira_Kiss.wmv

nice work.

What r u talking about... that was the link to show the film. that's what everyone could see to comment on possible reasons for the result. ICQ... no. what's ur deal? How many more posts until you come out and say what you want to?

wow...that's horrible.

whoever shot that is a big enough idiot he could move to LA and get a distribution deal and AVN would hail him as the next great director.

seriously dirty heads, cheap misaligned heads, bad lighting, shot in auto mode without color balancing. And you would buy anything from this guy at any price? What gives you the impression that he is capable of shooting anything properly?

1700 for a boy/girl scene shot exclusively...you get what you pay for bro....

I hope you didnt pay for that shit.

i'll post when i get the new film...

oh, ohh, oh.... just filled my belly button again

Isn't 8MM what we shot the moon landing on?

On a side not anyone interested in having the girl in the tape (Kira Kiss) shot professionally hit me up. She is local to me. :thumbsup

Sinclair

wtf phil... where's my shit

c/c phil

Tony, My husband said the same thing.

Dirty heads, dirty pinch roller and dirty tape path... The demod has too much luminance, setup level is too high..... The 'tape dropouts' look like dropped data in the d/a card.... That is, if it was shot on Beta SX.

Basically, it looks like total shit

thanx suzzy... when i first posted i was looking for answers to legitimize the garbage. I hate to fuckin out people which is why i keep this post to first names...

for what it's worth though... if this guy fucks me (suppose to have vids this weekend and again no fucking contact from him) im gonna post his shit on this thread in an effort to prevent money spent in the fuckin garbage.

you get what u pay for

This thread is the anti deliver...

why do you say that? i have worked with this guy in the past and i wanted amateur footage.

If he doesn't own up... how is that what I payed for? He ripped me off... didn't in the past... now has.

I know a shitload about this guy including a couple people in this thread talkin bad about him who... in past threads... talked about how great he and his gf was.

this thread is what it is... doesn't mean he'll be outted but i'll tell my story... over, and over,

mr pov peter should know exactly wtf im talking about

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...ien617/fap.jpg

So how many times have you watched that video? :upsidedow

ADG

here we go... guess who?

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/852870-pov-porn-puffy-nip-hottie-codi-carmichael.html

ohh... outta respect for mr pov peter... here is the other link ;)

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/852914-hot-amateur-babe-codi-carmichael-pov-porn.html

what a bunch of bullshit phil... u suck!

This guy took your wire AND cashed your check. Typical porn scumbag who is it.

i should just say right now... it's in the links though. fuck this shit man... thats almost 2k i blew... could have used that for alot better things this christmas :(

i know ur reading this phil... got your entire email list brother

duh.... message board... phil atlantic adult models...

New day, new post.

Thanks phil from Atlantic Adult Models for sending me fucking bullshit tapes, begging for the wire transfer while you were in LA getting fuckin hosed by Codi, then cashing the check which you promised to rip up.

Thanks again for answering none of my calls when you were suppose to make right. I hope your dealings in '09 flourish but they won't. Sorry dickhead.

I've read so many posts on this forum about getting ripped off $100... $200. You have $1700 of my dollars.

Oh... btw... again, I have your whole fucking email list. Cheers

pay for cheap content thats what you get... I would not shoot for anyone for less than 2k my fee


plus girls fees

please take this response as it is...

It doesn't fucking matter if I was to give 20K for a god damn 5 min. shoot. I have done business with phil in the past, meaning he brought me girls to film, I filmed them and then had the content. This time he has ripped me off to date. Meaning any dollar amount would have insignificant outcome to my current predicament. All that was required was for these girls to pick up a camera and film themselves.

This site is an amateur site... I WANT the amateur feel to the film.

BTW... I don't know who you provide content for but in the days when programs which use to make 25K a month now make 2K are your fees warranted? Just asking man

if a program only made 2k a month I doubt they are buying exclusive content... or in business for that matter....

and as far as dollar amount for being ripped off.. I feel for you for being taken for even 1 dollar dood.. it's principal... don't steal...

on the other hand amateur feel or not... your talking 2 scenes for 1700 bucks? thats super cheap.. you can be mad as hell at no call back all you want.. but for that price the content was good..... 850 a scene? thats super cheap for exclusive content... shit that would be cheap for cell phone footage.. don't take it the wrong way.... im just saying if you got scenes for that cheap in the past and he just now ripped you off.. id say you still got your money worth in the long run...

as for who I shoot for... I am sure everyone would like to know who I am shooting for now a days besides myself...

they pay well, don't complain and make well over 2k a month but i'd never tell.. just if you hired me to shoot we'd have our NDA between the two of us and id never tell either would you....

im not saying im the best content shooter out there... many many better than I .... but I'm also damn sure ill give you a converting product to sell... you could pay a good shooter 4k per scene and you will make it back..

I will pay an amateur $500 per 8 hour day to be just that... an amateur. I do appreciate your feedback man but would be the last day in porn for me if I payed $850 for a fuzzy lined, colored squared, amateur film, piece of fucking shit, garbage asshole not even tube warranted vid... and considered myself lucky!

holy hell..I thought my jew partner was cheap.... maybe I need to partner up with you... where the hell you finding these idiots that are willing to work 8 hours for 500 bucks? I personally would not even look in my camera's direction for 500 bucks.. much less take it out of the closet and use it... again you get what you pay for just like BMW vs Mercedes you get what you pay for.. BMW is great Mercedes is shit but people still accept the mercedes cause thats what they paid for.. you wanted amateur you got it... why not just add amateur effects during post?

the last line in this is funny though...

I'm sure your partner will like that comment.

Maybe you haven't read what this site is man... I'm not looking for a content provider. I have enough already... this is for a NEW site I started recently called ISHOTTHISVIDEO... meaning the girl, or g/b, or g/g is shooting the video. $500 breaks down to 62.50 per hour if my head is working right which is a fucking lot for alot of girls...

"I personally would not even look in my camera's direction for 500 bucks" please man...

Don't want to get in a money, price, content worth, etc. etc. bullshit pissing match with you because this thread is about getting ripped off by...

PHIL... from ATLANTIC ADULT MODELS....

bump for you

sorry bro .. im stoned.. talkin out my ass again...

I do dig the site though...

and sorry you got ripped off all together....

I don't know any American girls that would work for that kinda price.. what do these girls look like?

looks like bad tape to me .. low grade 8 mm tape. keep in mind that they stopped making these camera well over 10 years ago .. and the tae stock was very adhisive ... Dirty tape heads was very common with 8 mm .. they hadn't yet perfected small tape head drums and transports. Hense why the 8 mm was qucikly followed by super8 .. the best camera for this format was the canon L1. kind of the grandfather of the XL1.

I wouldn't expect any better resolution from an 8 mm recording regardless if it was shot last week or last decade. Also analog transfer to digital compression isn't the best, isn't the best, also a low quicktime compression doesn't help matters any...

Just my 2 cents

correction .. tape stock wasn't very adhesive (hense lots of lost particles in the tape transport = dirty heads, lags, and drop outs.

Also these cameras were not know for they're low light capabilities ..

On the subject of you being ripped off? I think you got exactly what you paid for .. and As Danza said, I would not look at my cameras direction for that type of money. Yo got off cheap.. it's a bitch that you got ripped.. however that's the price of doing business in an industry filled with scammers and scum bags.

Consider yourself luckly .. I as a content producer/provider have been screwed over for way more then 850$ .. i think my highest fuck over in the adult biz is 3000$ + and in broadcast was 15 000$ +

them the breaks .. you learn to roll with the punches and hire the right people for the job .. I wouldn't charge 2000 per for soft content like that .. but it sure as hell wouldn't be under 1000$ oh and a single order scene wouldn't get you a good rate.
BTW the style of the content would reduce the price somewhat but not considerbly

looks like GetNaughty quality :1orglaugh

Cute girl!

opps 8 mm followed by Hi8