Stock market today

They can inject their dicks up their asses..

NOTHING is gonna fix this .. the DEFLATION IS THE FIX..

when people understand this, they'll understand what is going on

Study history a tad, just a little .. and you'll see what's going on..

I feel like I'm banging my fucking head against a wall...

deflation has to happen on all levels agree

Yep, but the problem is we're so inflated .. that people will DIE on massive levels in order to deflate this fucker..


it's a sad day today, BLACK FRIDAY

only not the Black friday when we spend all sorts of money on crap, black friday as in the day the depression started..

Mark my words, this is the GREAT DEPRESSION 2.0

75% of us are FUCKED.
Starting today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_Crash_of_1929

let's use that to get the lay persons started ..

Economy is based on supply and demand, even the dollar...
So the fed has been printing all these dollars to " circumvent " disaster .. only todays DOLLARS are CREDIT.. the credit market is fucked,

We're seeing credit DISAPPEAR, it's unavailable to even the most REPUTABLE companies and people .. it's the SAME fucking thing tht happened in 1930, they sucked all the bills out of circulation ( no credit available in todays world) .. They are withdrawling all the extra money (credit) they printed (lended out) in order to deflate the markets ..

It's the only solution, only problem is 25% of us will DIE because of it ..

Think I'm fear mongering? Look up history.... do your OWN research and then return to this thread....

See ya on the flip side folks, I'll be the dude saying " I told ya so "

It seems to me (and I'm not economist) that the major difference is that that now, nearly 80 years later, the banking and financial world has changed dramatically. Back then the market lost 12% of its value and all hell broke loose. Now the market is down about 40% from where it was about 15 months ago and while things are far from good, they are still plodding along.

They had different types of bank transactions back then but not as intricate and there weren't as many options or players in the financial world. Having these options could help us avoid this.

I think we will bottom out. It probably won't be until after the new year because right now people are focused on the holidays, but eventually people will really panic and stop spending money and we will bottom out and then things will start to rebound. There are a lot of things to compare to now to 1929, but we have a lot more workers, more money and more options available to us this time around. I think the key, like you said is the credit markets. The world finances run on credit and until those start to loosen up and people/companies can start to borrow money again, it will continue to get ugly. However I'm not sure 75% of us are fucked and 25% of us will die, nor do I think we will enter into a great depression. Too many countries rely on us for that to happen.

All that said I think unless something happens like the president saying they will get the money to the automakers or some kind of deal being struck we may see the largest one day drop in history today. People have been worried, but every time there has been trouble there has been a bailout. If they deny the auto makers it may signal that the bailouts are at an end and this will cause some panic.

How dare you not predict a doomsday scenario. That's so unGFY of you.

BTW, I agree with you 100%.

The good news is that we'll no doubt see the US dollar get stronger today. Invest always invest heavily in it when the markets go down.

Back then money was backed by commodities. Now there's no real backing. There isn't enough money in circulation, gold, silver, etc, etc to pay off all debt owed because there was never anything backing the buck. And compound on to this the bankers and brokerages had a secondary little racket going on in the form of CDS. This compounds the problem two fold.

The PILLAR of the US economy just got a NO from congress... and you think the dollar will CLIMB?

are you retarded?

http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/co...CAD&amt=1&t=1d

Apparently not.

Economy sucks

Thank your Republicans senators. The fuckers will sacrifice the whole country in the name of "Capitalism" dogma.

?It?s over with,? the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid of Nevada, said on the Senate floor, after it was clear that a deal could not be reached. ?I dread looking at Wall Street tomorrow. It?s not going to be a pleasant sight.?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/13/business/13auto.html

Do you ever give your act a rest?