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Forest · 12-09-2008, 02:51 PM

no more late night for the tonight show

the end of an era

Tom_PM · 12-09-2008, 02:57 PM

Conan should really kick ass in the 11:35 time slot as new host of The Tonight Show.

Leno having a show at 10 might be ok, might flop!

BlackCrayon · 12-09-2008, 02:58 PM

Is this because conan is scheduled to take over in 2009?

Forest · 12-09-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Is this because conan is scheduled to take over in 2009?

that may be it yeah

maybe i missed somehting lol

kane · 12-09-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Is this because conan is scheduled to take over in 2009?

Yep. Leno leads the ratings in that time slot and has for years, but for some reason NBC decided to get rid of Leno and move Conan to that slot and Jimmy Fallon to 12:35. I guess Leno started getting a lot of interest from other networks offering to put him on at 11:35 opposite Dave and Conan (and Kimmel who comes on at midnight) so NBC decided maybe they made a mistake and are trying to make it good by moving him to 10pm. I think it will work. A lot of people are in bed by 11:35 and would rather watch him at 10pm than some shitty show.

WWC · 12-09-2008, 03:50 PM

Where did you hear that>?

Forest · 12-09-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WWC-Raffi

Where did you hear that>?

big news conference on cnbc today

i just missed the fact that it was going to be a new show and not moving the tonight show

BlackCrayon · 12-09-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

Yep. Leno leads the ratings in that time slot and has for years, but for some reason NBC decided to get rid of Leno and move Conan to that slot and Jimmy Fallon to 12:35. I guess Leno started getting a lot of interest from other networks offering to put him on at 11:35 opposite Dave and Conan (and Kimmel who comes on at midnight) so NBC decided maybe they made a mistake and are trying to make it good by moving him to 10pm. I think it will work. A lot of people are in bed by 11:35 and would rather watch him at 10pm than some shitty show.

Probably when it was agreed to, Leno thought he would want to retire but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

EscortBiz · 12-09-2008, 03:58 PM

conan will flop and jay will take over conan just dont have the ratings

kane · 12-09-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Probably when it was agreed to, Leno thought he would want to retire but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

Yeah there are all kinds of different stories about it. Some say Leno thought he might want to retire then others say Leno was just upset at them and wanted a raise ( he thought he should be paid more than Letterman if he is always beating Letterman in the ratings) and other say that Conan was promised the job when he took over the 12:35 slot years ago and was on the verge of leaving if he didn't get it so they decided to make him happy and give him the show.

Who knows what the whole truth is, could be a little bit of all of those or something completely different.

Forest · 12-09-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Probably when it was agreed to, Leno thought he would want to retire but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

aparently leno is getting 30m a year for this gig

not to shabby

todhunter · 12-09-2008, 05:15 PM

Looks like it's going to be interesting.

There hasn't been a repeated talk show on network prime time since the late '60s-early '70s when Dick Cavett was on three nights a week on ABC, on Tuesday, Thursday and Friday if memory serves. Groucho Marx -- a friend of Cavett's -- said he needed a secretary to remind him what days Cavett was on.

There are going to be serious changes at NBC. Conan O'Brien will be moving to L.A., into a new studio that was being built on the Universal lot last time I looked. When he goes to 11:35, he will have to revise his show and adapt to L.A. I think transplanting him to L.A. is a mistake but who the hell knows.

Leno, apparently, wants to stay in his old studio at NBC in Burbank -- which the rest of NBC is vacating for new facilities at Universal. Although the building(s) will remain a TV studio, probably owned and rented out by NBC-Universal.

The real crisis, if you ask me, will hit at 11:00 when all the major network affiliates go to news, scattering viewers all over the dial and making the late-night shows earn their viewers back. I think NBC ought to move their affiliate news to 10 and start the Leno/Conan/Jimmy Fallon line-up at 10:30/10:35 and let everybody else sweat it.

--t
who still carries his NBC gate pass from the '80s in his wallet

p3rsian · 12-09-2008, 05:26 PM

i like conan better anyway

TisMe · 12-09-2008, 06:20 PM

Win - Win for NBC. Even with Leno's salary the show will be much cheaper than a 1 hour drama would be, plus Leno will do 40 some weeks a year, 5 nights per week vs 22 episodes a year for most dramas. Leno will fill the time of 5 weekly dramas with ensemble casts and highly paid writers, sets and locations.

Law and Order costs over $4 million per episode (www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6440109.html), multiply that by 22 episodes per year and you've covered 1 night per week for 22 weeks. Paying Leno $30 million for 5 shows a week, 40 weeks a year is a $$ bonanza for NBC even if his ratings are significantly lower than the competing shows.

When the dramas in the same time slot are in repeats Leno will have new shows. Ratings will climb then increasing the return for NBC.

Plus this keeps Leno off ABC where he was ready to go and where he would have split the Tonight show audience while pulling very little from Letterman's audience.

If only they'd done this in 92 with Letterman vs Leno to replace Carson, they might have kept CBS out of late night completely.

baddog · 12-09-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

conan will flop and jay will take over conan just dont have the ratings

I don't watch either but agree that Leno is much better than O'Brien.

Mr Pheer · 12-09-2008, 06:36 PM

What time does Leno come on now?

Yeah yeah I should know this, but I never watch TV in the first place.

Blingbaby · 12-09-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

conan will flop and jay will take over conan just dont have the ratings

I can't believe that guy made it this far. I guess was good as a writer, sure suck on delivery though..

MikeSmoke · 12-09-2008, 06:41 PM

The deal is that Conan was going to go somewhere else (Fox, ABC) when his last contract was up --- so in order to resign him a few years ago, they promised him the Tonight Show in 2009, and Leno signed off on it, saying it was OK with him. NBC had an out, that if they decided to keep Leno on the Tonight show after 2009, then Conan would get a $40 million dollar penalty payment.
Fast forward to 2008 - Leno is still willing the ratings war bigtime, and several networks, plus outside syndicators, were ready to give him the big bucks to go at 11 or 11:30 against Conan and Letterman. So NBC was going to either lose Leno who would quite possibly beat them in the ratings - or have to pay $40 million to Conan and then have to compete against him.
So they came up with an idea (first surfaced by a TV columnist a year ago) to do this 10pm show for Leno. Leno's happy, NBC is thrilled that they keep everyone and cut costs (as mentioned in an earlier post) --- the only one who must be truly pissed is Conan who has been totally undercut, but to my knowledge he hasn't said anything yet.

LeRoy · 12-09-2008, 06:47 PM

yah last night he was talking with Will Smith about leaving in April 2009

V_RocKs · 12-09-2008, 07:05 PM

Konan will kill the show... Actors HATE going on O'brian.

I love it when he has any actor that is serious about their craft and over 50. The actor just looks at him like... Are you people fucking serious? Just look at his hair. WTF was my agent thinking putting me on with this clown? WTF WTF WTF?

donkevlar · 12-09-2008, 07:12 PM

This fucks up my first 1/2 of Letterman, first 1/2 of Kimmel, Conan rotation.

todhunter · 12-10-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

What time does Leno come on now?

Yeah yeah I should know this, but I never watch TV in the first place.

"The Tonight Show With Jay Leno" airs M-F at 11:35, 10:35 central.

If you can get the NBC feed on your satellite dish, thay tape at 5:30 p.m. and the show used to go on the satellite at 8:35 Pacific time, feeding to the Eastern time zone.

When in doubt, check your local listings. You can find your local affiliate at nbc.com.

--t

6000 · 12-10-2008, 09:10 AM

There are many things to consider here:

1) Upon Conan's 2004 signing of the contract to take over the Tonight Show on June 1, 2009, Leno was set to retire...recently, he decided that he wanted to stay and made noise about going to another network. This would compete with Conan so NBC decided the best thing to do would be to keep him in house and not take away from the Tonight Show.

2) Max Weinberg has decided that he will remain the bandleader for Conan upon the move to Los Angeles...this should tell Springsteen fans a thing or two about Weinberg's future role in the band beyond June 1, 2009.

3) NBC is reportedly second-guessing their decision to have Conan take over the Tonight Show...this may be their way of having Leno wait in the wings in case Conan should flop...

JamesK · 12-10-2008, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Konan will kill the show... Actors HATE going on O'brian.

I love it when he has any actor that is serious about their craft and over 50. The actor just looks at him like... Are you people fucking serious? Just look at his hair. WTF was my agent thinking putting me on with this clown? WTF WTF WTF?

The Duck · 12-10-2008, 09:22 AM

Conan is to quirky to take over :p

EscortBiz · 12-10-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 6000

There are many things to consider here:

1) Upon Conan's 2004 signing of the contract to take over the Tonight Show on June 1, 2009, Leno was set to retire...recently, he decided that he wanted to stay and made noise about going to another network. This would compete with Conan so NBC decided the best thing to do would be to keep him in house and not take away from the Tonight Show.

2) Max Weinberg has decided that he will remain the bandleader for Conan upon the move to Los Angeles...this should tell Springsteen fans a thing or two about Weinberg's future role in the band beyond June 1, 2009.

3) NBC is reportedly second-guessing their decision to have Conan take over the Tonight Show...this may be their way of having Leno wait in the wings in case Conan should flop...

why cant they just broadcast from NY?

kevink · 12-10-2008, 09:39 AM

i think it has a good shot at working. reality tv and prime time game shows made it plausible. then u got the success of Sat. Nite Live's political segments (NBC, too). It all depends on how Leno goes about it. Personally, I don't find the guy to be funny.

SCORE Ralph · 12-10-2008, 10:15 AM

younger crowds like OB, older crowd likes JL. As the years roll on, OB would appease that younger crowd (thats growing older and isnt going out as much), and JL will have the even older crowd who go to bed earlier.

Just my opinion, but whatever.

6000 · 12-10-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

why cant they just broadcast from NY?

Ever since Carson, it's a tradition...Tonight Show is in California...

Kudles · 12-10-2008, 12:31 PM

I'm kinda glad

Drake · 12-10-2008, 12:43 PM

I wonder if Conan will be able to pull it off. I think his audience is different from Leno's.

todhunter · 12-10-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 6000

Ever since Carson, it's a tradition...Tonight Show is in California...

Well, yeah, ever since Carson. But the proto-Tonight Show, "Broadway Open House," was based in New York, as was Steve Allen's "Tonight Show," Jack Paar's "Tonight," and even "The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson," which started in October of 1962 in New York.

Carson's occasional two-week forays to L.A. were so successful (including one memorable day after an earthquake when he started the monologue with a breezy "The God Is Dead rally has been cancelled") that he moved the whole show -- lock, stock and Ed McMahon -- to L.A. in 1972.

So there is substantial history in keeping Conan in New York. And with Conan keeping framed pictures of Jack Paar and Ernie Kovacs just off-camera, I think he knows that.

--t

Zebra · 12-10-2008, 01:09 PM

The new Leno show wont be starting till Fall 2009 so don't go looking for it anytime soon.

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todhunter Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 152	Looks like it's going to be interesting. There hasn't been a repeated talk show on network prime time since the late '60s-early '70s when Dick Cavett was on three nights a week on ABC, on Tuesday, Thursday and Friday if memory serves. Groucho Marx -- a friend of Cavett's -- said he needed a secretary to remind him what days Cavett was on. There are going to be serious changes at NBC. Conan O'Brien will be moving to L.A., into a new studio that was being built on the Universal lot last time I looked. When he goes to 11:35, he will have to revise his show and adapt to L.A. I think transplanting him to L.A. is a mistake but who the hell knows. Leno, apparently, wants to stay in his old studio at NBC in Burbank -- which the rest of NBC is vacating for new facilities at Universal. Although the building(s) will remain a TV studio, probably owned and rented out by NBC-Universal. The real crisis, if you ask me, will hit at 11:00 when all the major network affiliates go to news, scattering viewers all over the dial and making the late-night shows earn their viewers back. I think NBC ought to move their affiliate news to 10 and start the Leno/Conan/Jimmy Fallon line-up at 10:30/10:35 and let everybody else sweat it. --t who still carries his NBC gate pass from the '80s in his wallet

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TisMe Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,719	Win - Win for NBC. Even with Leno's salary the show will be much cheaper than a 1 hour drama would be, plus Leno will do 40 some weeks a year, 5 nights per week vs 22 episodes a year for most dramas. Leno will fill the time of 5 weekly dramas with ensemble casts and highly paid writers, sets and locations. Law and Order costs over $4 million per episode (www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6440109.html), multiply that by 22 episodes per year and you've covered 1 night per week for 22 weeks. Paying Leno $30 million for 5 shows a week, 40 weeks a year is a $$ bonanza for NBC even if his ratings are significantly lower than the competing shows. When the dramas in the same time slot are in repeats Leno will have new shows. Ratings will climb then increasing the return for NBC. Plus this keeps Leno off ABC where he was ready to go and where he would have split the Tonight show audience while pulling very little from Letterman's audience. If only they'd done this in 92 with Letterman vs Leno to replace Carson, they might have kept CBS out of late night completely.

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