**** How Island Dollars fucked me over? Are you next? **** - GoFuckYourself.com

DWB · 01-22-2007, 11:28 PM

I'm not really one to go public with drama but this one I felt I had to because I want to show the other side to a team that everyone thinks is honest and respectable.

I have been working for about a year with a Thai model, devolving a solo site for her. At this point there have been countless hours and a lot of money put into this project, and while technically I could open the site now, it is in a line of sites to be opened and would be opened according to our production schedule. This model is a one of a kind, STUNNING model. A serious money maker. Her domain was registered on 12-03-2005, we started production in Jan 2006 with a plan to open late spring of 2007. Being that we were getting closer to the launch, we have been building her profile on various networking sites such as MySpace and others since the beginning of this year.

Back up to several months ago, I was out having a drink with Marty & Mark from IslandDollars.com when we ran into the model I was working with. Knowing that they were in the same business as I was, I let them know right away that I was already working with her to develop a site and that was my project. They both agreed it was a winner and we discussed some ideas about it, and then moved onto another subject and it never came up again, until last night.

Marty sent an ICQ to me last night to inform me that he "wants to avoid conflicts and work out the best arrangement between us" and that he had been working with my model behind my back AND paid for her boob job because he thought "This concept is a great one, which is one that we felt we could do better than anyone else."

At first I thought he was joking with me because I really didn't think anyone would be that big of a cock sucker, but I was quick to learn he was very serious. I was then instantly insulted at the fact that he would tell me he though he could do it better than anyone else, and that he did this knowing in full what my intentions were with her. The same for Mark, his partner.

Marty is a smooth talker and tried to spin the fact that he fucked me over into a situation where ?we? could ?make a positive" out it, and said that there were many ways this could go and that "he would leave the door open" but his only real solution was from him to buy my content of her to go on his site, which he thinks would be ready to launch around April.

I can not control who a model shoots with. None of us can. I also can not control if someone wants to shoot the exact model I am working with. Models are not properties that belong to us. I don?t even care that they shot her, but I do care that they are building a site around her, knowing that I was doing the same. If I did not know Marty & Mark and they had no idea what I was up to, and they did this, there would not be a problem and the early bird would get the worm. However, the fact is, both of them knew in great detail what my intentions were and that I was already working with her on this project. This was a blatant stabbing in the back.

Of course Marty tried to say that he didn't remember that I was doing that with her, but if that was the case then he would not have felt the need to contact me to discuss the issue. He claimed he only thought I was working with her for DVD work, but in fact he and I brained stormed on ideas for the site, and he and Mark both thought it was brilliant and a must do project.

Up until that point I trusted Marty and never thought in my worst nightmares that they would do this to me. I didn't think anyone I knew and got along with would stoop so low. However, what I also found out not long after was that Marty used to work with another program, and that program owner shared his dreams and ideas with Marty to do an Asian solo girl program. Of course, wouldn't you know Marty quit, and with Mark started IslandDollars.com, an Asian solo girl program. It was his best friend that he stabbed in the back to do this. Great friend this guy turns out to be it seems.
In an industry full of scammer, liars, thieves and bottom feeders, it is a breath of fresh air to find people like yourself who you think are a good people and can work together to achieve common goals. I thought the Island Dollars team was among this group and was trustworthy. Then I start to wonder, if Marty will fuck over his best friend, then me, over money... then who else has he fucked over, or which one of you will get it next? Can a dishonest team run an honest program? I would have to say no, because either you are an honest man or you're not. You either fuck people over or you are honorable and earn the respect of those around you.

IslandDollars.com no longer has my support, and most importantly no longer has my respect and my trust. Mark and Marty, who I once considered among friends, have shown their true colors and would no be welcome in my home or at my table. I wish them luck with their conquest to shoot Thai bar girls and pass them off as girls next door, farmers and Indians. Pattaya, Thailand will never run dry of whores that will shoot for them and in fact has close to 100,000 of them. And to think with all of those potential models, they just had to shoot THE ONE that they knew I was already working with.

As I said before, Marty is a very smooth talker and will be quick to put a spin on this, denying all accusations claiming he was not aware or did not remember the conversation about this. There is no doubt he is going to chime in here with his smooth BS in an attempt to justify his actions and not look like a back stabber among his peers. His gift is the ability to talk, and he does it well. As a program owner and someone with a good reputation, he can?t afford for his true colors to be shown, so you can expect the same amount of bull shit to be posted by him, as he has been giving me. Don?t fall for it. The entire circle of guys that hang out together over there ALL knew about this project I was working on, but coincidentally ONLY the Island Dollars team ?forgot? about it and decided to shoot her anyway. They may or may not post here to defend my accusations, it is up to them, but they know the truth. However, their support to substantiate my story would be appreciated.

I am very disappointed with these guys, and now know that I can not trust them, support them or do business with them of any kind. In fact Marty offered, as a peace offering I?m sure, to distribute and collect 100% of a Ladyboy DVD he shot and has been selling on VOD. I declined this generous offer based on the fact that he fucked me once and will probably fuck me again. How do you trust someone who just pulled a move like this?

If you take anything from my experience, know that regardless of your friendship with the guys at Island Dollars, you must assume they will steal any ideas you share with them or fuck you over if they see an opportunity to make a few bucks. Watch your back if you do business with anyone from Island Dollars.

Peace & chicken grease,
DWB

P.S. Please bump this until the end of time.

sharp · 01-22-2007, 11:29 PM

bump for drama.

martinsc · 01-22-2007, 11:32 PM

i think i'll place my sig right here....

LiveDose · 01-22-2007, 11:33 PM

Sounds like a mess man. Sorry to hear.

Darkhorse · 01-22-2007, 11:33 PM

Ya that sounds pretty fucked up.

georgeyw · 01-22-2007, 11:34 PM

After reading all that, you don't seem to be all that angry about the whole thing at all?

donkevlar · 01-22-2007, 11:36 PM

Ouch that sucks... Let's see the girl.

DWB · 01-22-2007, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw

After reading all that, you don't seem to be all that angry about the whole thing at all?

Sure I'm angry, I'm mad as hell, and there will be consequences, but I'm also not going to go off with a bunch of incomplete sentences and sounds like an ass.

I control my anger very well. If you expect me to go off like p1mpdog, it's not gonna happen.

KrisKross · 01-22-2007, 11:40 PM

Oh man. That's fucking low.

kane · 01-22-2007, 11:40 PM

It does sound like a mess, but to protect yourself you should have signed her to some kind of a contract that would forbid her from shooting elsewhere or limit the work she could do away from you. It may not be 100% fair to her, but if you are starting a site around her you need to be in control of her content.

the model aside, if he knew you were developing a site around her the honorable thing to do would have been to contact you and either forewarn you they were also going to develop a site or work with you, but then again there is often little honor in business.

Screaming · 01-22-2007, 11:43 PM

pretty fucked man..

DWB · 01-22-2007, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane

It does sound like a mess, but to protect yourself you should have signed her to some kind of a contract that would forbid her from shooting elsewhere or limit the work she could do away from you. It may not be 100% fair to her, but if you are starting a site around her you need to be in control of her content.

the model aside, if he knew you were developing a site around her the honorable thing to do would have been to contact you and either forewarn you they were also going to develop a site or work with you, but then again there is often little honor in business.

In a civilized country, yes, a contract would be binding. In Thailand... all bets are off. lol

georgeyw · 01-22-2007, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Sure I'm angry, I'm mad as hell, and there will be consequences, but I'm also not going to go off with a bunch of incomplete sentences and sounds like an ass.

I control my anger very well. If you expect me to go off like p1mpdog, it's not gonna happen.

Actually I was noting the lack of 'stern' words/sentences. Seemed angry in a forgiving type of way...

Major (Tom) · 01-22-2007, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I'm not really one to go public with drama but this one I felt I had to because I want to show the other side to a team that everyone thinks is honest and respectable.

I have been working for about a year with a Thai model, devolving a solo site for her. At this point there have been countless hours and a lot of money put into this project, and while technically I could open the site now, it is in a line of sites to be opened and would be opened according to our production schedule. This model is a one of a kind, STUNNING model. A serious money maker. Her domain was registered on 12-03-2005, we started production in Jan 2006 with a plan to open late spring of 2007. Being that we were getting closer to the launch, we have been building her profile on various networking sites such as MySpace and others since the beginning of this year.

Back up to several months ago, I was out having a drink with Marty & Mark from IslandDollars.com when we ran into the model I was working with. Knowing that they were in the same business as I was, I let them know right away that I was already working with her to develop a site and that was my project. They both agreed it was a winner and we discussed some ideas about it, and then moved onto another subject and it never came up again, until last night.

Marty sent an ICQ to me last night to inform me that he "wants to avoid conflicts and work out the best arrangement between us" and that he had been working with my model behind my back AND paid for her boob job because he thought "This concept is a great one, which is one that we felt we could do better than anyone else."

At first I thought he was joking with me because I really didn't think anyone would be that big of a cock sucker, but I was quick to learn he was very serious. I was then instantly insulted at the fact that he would tell me he though he could do it better than anyone else, and that he did this knowing in full what my intentions were with her. The same for Mark, his partner.

Marty is a smooth talker and tried to spin the fact that he fucked me over into a situation where ?we? could ?make a positive" out it, and said that there were many ways this could go and that "he would leave the door open" but his only real solution was from him to buy my content of her to go on his site, which he thinks would be ready to launch around April.

I can not control who a model shoots with. None of us can. I also can not control if someone wants to shoot the exact model I am working with. Models are not properties that belong to us. I don?t even care that they shot her, but I do care that they are building a site around her, knowing that I was doing the same. If I did not know Marty & Mark and they had no idea what I was up to, and they did this, there would not be a problem and the early bird would get the worm. However, the fact is, both of them knew in great detail what my intentions were and that I was already working with her on this project. This was a blatant stabbing in the back.

Of course Marty tried to say that he didn't remember that I was doing that with her, but if that was the case then he would not have felt the need to contact me to discuss the issue. He claimed he only thought I was working with her for DVD work, but in fact he and I brained stormed on ideas for the site, and he and Mark both thought it was brilliant and a must do project.

Up until that point I trusted Marty and never thought in my worst nightmares that they would do this to me. I didn't think anyone I knew and got along with would stoop so low. However, what I also found out not long after was that Marty used to work with another program, and that program owner shared his dreams and ideas with Marty to do an Asian solo girl program. Of course, wouldn't you know Marty quit, and with Mark started IslandDollars.com, an Asian solo girl program. It was his best friend that he stabbed in the back to do this. Great friend this guy turns out to be it seems.
In an industry full of scammer, liars, thieves and bottom feeders, it is a breath of fresh air to find people like yourself who you think are a good people and can work together to achieve common goals. I thought the Island Dollars team was among this group and was trustworthy. Then I start to wonder, if Marty will fuck over his best friend, then me, over money... then who else has he fucked over, or which one of you will get it next? Can a dishonest team run an honest program? I would have to say no, because either you are an honest man or you're not. You either fuck people over or you are honorable and earn the respect of those around you.

IslandDollars.com no longer has my support, and most importantly no longer has my respect and my trust. Mark and Marty, who I once considered among friends, have shown their true colors and would no be welcome in my home or at my table. I wish them luck with their conquest to shoot Thai bar girls and pass them off as girls next door, farmers and Indians. Pattaya, Thailand will never run dry of whores that will shoot for them and in fact has close to 100,000 of them. And to think with all of those potential models, they just had to shoot THE ONE that they knew I was already working with.

As I said before, Marty is a very smooth talker and will be quick to put a spin on this, denying all accusations claiming he was not aware or did not remember the conversation about this. There is no doubt he is going to chime in here with his smooth BS in an attempt to justify his actions and not look like a back stabber among his peers. His gift is the ability to talk, and he does it well. As a program owner and someone with a good reputation, he can?t afford for his true colors to be shown, so you can expect the same amount of bull shit to be posted by him, as he has been giving me. Don?t fall for it. The entire circle of guys that hang out together over there ALL knew about this project I was working on, but coincidentally ONLY the Island Dollars team ?forgot? about it and decided to shoot her anyway. They may or may not post here to defend my accusations, it is up to them, but they know the truth. However, their support to substantiate my story would be appreciated.

I am very disappointed with these guys, and now know that I can not trust them, support them or do business with them of any kind. In fact Marty offered, as a peace offering I?m sure, to distribute and collect 100% of a Ladyboy DVD he shot and has been selling on VOD. I declined this generous offer based on the fact that he fucked me once and will probably fuck me again. How do you trust someone who just pulled a move like this?

If you take anything from my experience, know that regardless of your friendship with the guys at Island Dollars, you must assume they will steal any ideas you share with them or fuck you over if they see an opportunity to make a few bucks. Watch your back if you do business with anyone from Island Dollars.

Peace & chicken grease,
DWB

P.S. Please bump this until the end of time.

My friend, you just been DUGMORED!

Duke

bareskin · 01-22-2007, 11:49 PM

sig spot now back to reading but what I've read so far that's fucked. I personally would send two thugs to break there legs I'd pay the thugs of course, but hey thats just me

DWB · 01-22-2007, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw

Seemed angry in a forgiving type of way...

No, I'm PISSED in an unforgiving way. I just didn't feel the post needed that tone.

DateDoc · 01-22-2007, 11:50 PM

Ouch, that is pretty low! One of the reasons I never tell anyone anything.

DWB · 01-22-2007, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bareskin

I personally would send two thugs to break there legs I'd pay the thugs of course, but hey thats just me

I'm in the USA right now, he is in Thailand.

It is not out of the realm of possibility that he will be arrested soon and either jailed or blacklisted from Thailand. It really is just a matter of how pissed I still am when I get back over there, and how much bull shit he wants to continue to spew out of his lying mouth.

When it comes to my family or my business, I will DESTROY anyone who fucks with either.

Thailand is the WRONG country to live in (and shoot porn in) if you have enemies.

thebossxxx · 01-22-2007, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I'm not really one to go public with drama but this one I felt I had to because I want to show the other side to a team that everyone thinks is honest and respectable.

I have been working for about a year with a Thai model, devolving a solo site for her. At this point there have been countless hours and a lot of money put into this project, and while technically I could open the site now, it is in a line of sites to be opened and would be opened according to our production schedule. This model is a one of a kind, STUNNING model. A serious money maker. Her domain was registered on 12-03-2005, we started production in Jan 2006 with a plan to open late spring of 2007. Being that we were getting closer to the launch, we have been building her profile on various networking sites such as MySpace and others since the beginning of this year.

Back up to several months ago, I was out having a drink with Marty & Mark from IslandDollars.com when we ran into the model I was working with. Knowing that they were in the same business as I was, I let them know right away that I was already working with her to develop a site and that was my project. They both agreed it was a winner and we discussed some ideas about it, and then moved onto another subject and it never came up again, until last night.

Marty sent an ICQ to me last night to inform me that he "wants to avoid conflicts and work out the best arrangement between us" and that he had been working with my model behind my back AND paid for her boob job because he thought "This concept is a great one, which is one that we felt we could do better than anyone else."

At first I thought he was joking with me because I really didn't think anyone would be that big of a cock sucker, but I was quick to learn he was very serious. I was then instantly insulted at the fact that he would tell me he though he could do it better than anyone else, and that he did this knowing in full what my intentions were with her. The same for Mark, his partner.

Marty is a smooth talker and tried to spin the fact that he fucked me over into a situation where ?we? could ?make a positive" out it, and said that there were many ways this could go and that "he would leave the door open" but his only real solution was from him to buy my content of her to go on his site, which he thinks would be ready to launch around April.

I can not control who a model shoots with. None of us can. I also can not control if someone wants to shoot the exact model I am working with. Models are not properties that belong to us. I don?t even care that they shot her, but I do care that they are building a site around her, knowing that I was doing the same. If I did not know Marty & Mark and they had no idea what I was up to, and they did this, there would not be a problem and the early bird would get the worm. However, the fact is, both of them knew in great detail what my intentions were and that I was already working with her on this project. This was a blatant stabbing in the back.

Of course Marty tried to say that he didn't remember that I was doing that with her, but if that was the case then he would not have felt the need to contact me to discuss the issue. He claimed he only thought I was working with her for DVD work, but in fact he and I brained stormed on ideas for the site, and he and Mark both thought it was brilliant and a must do project.

Up until that point I trusted Marty and never thought in my worst nightmares that they would do this to me. I didn't think anyone I knew and got along with would stoop so low. However, what I also found out not long after was that Marty used to work with another program, and that program owner shared his dreams and ideas with Marty to do an Asian solo girl program. Of course, wouldn't you know Marty quit, and with Mark started IslandDollars.com, an Asian solo girl program. It was his best friend that he stabbed in the back to do this. Great friend this guy turns out to be it seems.
In an industry full of scammer, liars, thieves and bottom feeders, it is a breath of fresh air to find people like yourself who you think are a good people and can work together to achieve common goals. I thought the Island Dollars team was among this group and was trustworthy. Then I start to wonder, if Marty will fuck over his best friend, then me, over money... then who else has he fucked over, or which one of you will get it next? Can a dishonest team run an honest program? I would have to say no, because either you are an honest man or you're not. You either fuck people over or you are honorable and earn the respect of those around you.

IslandDollars.com no longer has my support, and most importantly no longer has my respect and my trust. Mark and Marty, who I once considered among friends, have shown their true colors and would no be welcome in my home or at my table. I wish them luck with their conquest to shoot Thai bar girls and pass them off as girls next door, farmers and Indians. Pattaya, Thailand will never run dry of whores that will shoot for them and in fact has close to 100,000 of them. And to think with all of those potential models, they just had to shoot THE ONE that they knew I was already working with.

As I said before, Marty is a very smooth talker and will be quick to put a spin on this, denying all accusations claiming he was not aware or did not remember the conversation about this. There is no doubt he is going to chime in here with his smooth BS in an attempt to justify his actions and not look like a back stabber among his peers. His gift is the ability to talk, and he does it well. As a program owner and someone with a good reputation, he can?t afford for his true colors to be shown, so you can expect the same amount of bull shit to be posted by him, as he has been giving me. Don?t fall for it. The entire circle of guys that hang out together over there ALL knew about this project I was working on, but coincidentally ONLY the Island Dollars team ?forgot? about it and decided to shoot her anyway. They may or may not post here to defend my accusations, it is up to them, but they know the truth. However, their support to substantiate my story would be appreciated.

I am very disappointed with these guys, and now know that I can not trust them, support them or do business with them of any kind. In fact Marty offered, as a peace offering I?m sure, to distribute and collect 100% of a Ladyboy DVD he shot and has been selling on VOD. I declined this generous offer based on the fact that he fucked me once and will probably fuck me again. How do you trust someone who just pulled a move like this?

If you take anything from my experience, know that regardless of your friendship with the guys at Island Dollars, you must assume they will steal any ideas you share with them or fuck you over if they see an opportunity to make a few bucks. Watch your back if you do business with anyone from Island Dollars.

Peace & chicken grease,
DWB

P.S. Please bump this until the end of time.

This is what truly should happen, the old school way!

If this is true, which I have no doubt but to beliive Dirty White Boy 110%,
Fuck suing him, bitch slap him & kick his ass at the next show like a bitch and shove a dildo up his ass! Ofcoarse I'll video tape it and post it on this forum for shits and giggles, to prevent others from being nothing but a bunch of thieves and whores in this fucked up industry!.

the Shemp · 01-22-2007, 11:58 PM

consider it life experience...

NaughtyRob · 01-23-2007, 12:00 AM

Fucked up shit. But that is the nature of the biz. I have learned my lessons the hard way.

wdsguy · 01-23-2007, 12:02 AM

wow that is shitty, thats why i never share my project plans ever.

tenderobject · 01-23-2007, 12:02 AM

ok bump for you! thats totally fucked up. so what would you do with the contests thats been shot? money and time wasted.

DWB · 01-23-2007, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenderobject

ok bump for you! thats totally fucked up. so what would you do with the contests thats been shot? money and time wasted.

He offered to buy my content of her.

That was mighty white of him.

starpimps · 01-23-2007, 12:08 AM

that really sucks man, all that hard work gone to waste...sorry to hear

nosey · 01-23-2007, 12:09 AM

just fucked! bump 4u

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 01-23-2007, 12:10 AM

Sorry that this happened to you DWB...

As you now know, unless you have a model under contract (and even that is not always 100% ironclad), they can walk on you.

Besides the shady manuevering of Island Dollars, the model should bear some of the heat for this too. That's pretty ungrateful of her to do this behind your back.

I experienced a similar situation where I invested over $10,000 into a model (including paying for her boob job), only to have her go over to launch a solo site with another webmaster (whom I had given lots of free advice to), after I shot 30 plus sets of her with the clear intention of launching a solo site.

My advice is to launch your site tomorrow. Flood the net with your content. Recoup whatever you can, and when their site launches, use the content of her to promote your other sites - I mean saturate it so much that no one will want to join the other version of the site.

I haven't heard Island Dollars side of the story, but I doubt that you would put your own rep on the line by talking trash without warrant.

If I were Island Dollars, I would be putting a pretty damn good lucrative deal together to make it up to you, instead of wasting time trying to argue.

There is no reason that you can't still work things out now that you have laid your cards on the table, although in hindsight, it might have been better to sleep on it for a night or two, and then try to cut some mutually acceptable deal with them.

It's tough to be patient in the heat and passion of the moment, but often times it proves to be the best course to follow.

Good luck to you bro,

ADG Webmaster

The Ghost · 01-23-2007, 12:10 AM

To insinuate that our program and business are not 100% on the level and that we screw people we are in business with is not only inaccurate, but an outright lie.

Tryme · 01-23-2007, 12:11 AM

wow! you got ass fucked hard

well atleast maybe now zango cant get your money

Screaming · 01-23-2007, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

My friend, you just been DUGMORED!

Duke

explain what you mean?

tenderobject · 01-23-2007, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

He offered to buy my content of her.

That was mighty white of him.

crap.. that is still bullshite!

Tryme · 01-23-2007, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost

To insinuate that our program and business are not 100% the level and that we screw people we are in business with is not only inaccurate, but an outright lie.

so you are saying he is lying?

DWB · 01-23-2007, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost

To insinuate that our program and business are not 100% the level and that we screw people we are in business with is not only inaccurate, but an outright lie.

If you fucked me, and your best friend, odds are you will fuck someone again. Its just a matter of who it's gonna be.

I do question if you run an honest program or not. I don't promote you, so I don't care, but EVERYONE is going to know that you are a dishonest person. I have no proof either way, all I have is your actions and your lies. That is enough for me.

King of Queens · 01-23-2007, 12:16 AM

Pimpin aint EZ

DWB · 01-23-2007, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King of Queens

Pimpin aint EZ

Ain't that the god damned truth.

XPays · 01-23-2007, 12:18 AM

hopefully you all can mend the fences and work it out.

SetTheWorldonFire · 01-23-2007, 12:22 AM

Dam, that's messed up

swami · 01-23-2007, 12:25 AM

I am not a full time gfy man but I have come to know DWB through his posts and he stacks up as a straight shooter, no bullshit sort of guy, with lots of interesting and often funny stories.
The only posts I have seen of the Island Dollars crew, is snake oil spam.
Fuckem.
DWB if you want to become number one on Google for the girls name let me know.I'll make it happen.

KrisKross · 01-23-2007, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost

To insinuate that our program and business are not 100% on the level and that we screw people we are in business with is not only inaccurate, but an outright lie.

That's your only reply?

DWB · 01-23-2007, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swami

I am not a full time gfy man but I have come to know DWB through his posts and he stacks up as a straight shooter, no bullshit sort of guy, with lots of interesting and often funny stories.
The only posts I have seen of the Island Dollars crew, is snake oil spam.
Fuckem.
DWB if you want to become number one on Google for the girls name let me know.I'll make it happen.

Thanks man, I really appreciate that.

Will be in touch!

madawgz · 01-23-2007, 12:33 AM

seems really fucked up :\

DWB · 01-23-2007, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross

That's your only reply?

For now. I totally expect a smooth spin story very soon. He has the gift of gabb. And if the others who know the facts will post on it, it's going shoot down whatever spin he creates. But that's up to them, I hate to drag others into this, but privately I have already been told I am 100% correct.

I don't know how they run Island Dollars, and I'm NOT making any accusations that they have cheated anyone (other than me and his friend), but I know that a person who is not trustworthy, is not just sometimes untrustworthy. At least that has been my experience.

DWB · 01-23-2007, 12:40 AM

"[02:04] IslandDollars: With the comments and what you listed in the post, with the action/blacklisting/violence there is nothing further to discuss between us. "

I just want to say here that I did not say anything about violence. "Destroy" did not mean violence in a physical sense. That's not my style.

The Captain · 01-23-2007, 12:42 AM

aint that some shit, best of luck in trying to get this situation figured out.

tical · 01-23-2007, 12:42 AM

bump for you, getting fucked over by people you SWORE you could trust is some unbelievable shit to have to deal with

The Ghost · 01-23-2007, 12:44 AM

Between the icq's with Dallas and our first drama thread I will try to be factual and cover the issues.

Dallas and I have been speaking about this for days, and the issue did not occur last night. I originally contacted Dallas on Jan 18th, the second when I thought there might possibly be an issue.

The model in question has done work with a few other producers, and already has content up on websites and available on mainstream adult DVDs. The model has a completely unique and amazing look than anything produced with her before.

Once the model casually mentioned that she had shot a 'few' photo sets with Dallas, I contacted Dallas immediately to speak with him about it. I wanted to know what 'a few' meant and what his intentions were with the content. If it was a small amount, then possibly purchsing the content and licensing other content he might have shot with the model that is available elsewhere. Once any issues arise with ANYTHING in our business they are dealt with them immediately.

When I spoke with Dallas, he was upset and said that he was developing an entire site around the same model. He mentioned that we had spoke about the concept early last year for that style of site and that it was HIS. We have spoken about many ideas and concepts, to base a memory off of a last night drinking and brainstorming in Thailand is not in the best interest of anyone. I approached Dallas with all of the different avenues of resolution I could think of; purchasing his content, working together on a site, putting up two sites and selling as a partnership betwen them. I even mentioned selling our content to him.

The main issue comes from Dallas feeling as though it was intentional. Simply put, it is not worth our time, money or energy to spend thousands and thousands to purposely produce a concept or site that someone is already doing.

XPays · 01-23-2007, 12:45 AM

one question: why did you not launch her site since dec '05 when the domain was registered? that is a lot of development time.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 01-23-2007, 12:45 AM

Island Dollars not trustworthy?

That's almost like saying you don't think Joon Mali is 18 - or that they type in different info on fake fan signs...

ADG Webmaster

tical · 01-23-2007, 12:47 AM

thats bullshit man, you don't just *think* up the same unique idea you conveniently *forgot about* due to a long night of drinking

DWB · 01-23-2007, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost

Between the icq's with Dallas and our first drama thread I will try to be factual and cover the issues.

Dallas and I have been speaking about this for days, and the issue did not occur last night. I originally contacted Dallas on Jan 18th, the second when I thought there might possibly be an issue.

The model in question has done work with a few other producers, and already has content up on websites and available on mainstream adult DVDs. The model has a completely unique and amazing look than anything produced with her before.

Once the model casually mentioned that she had shot a 'few' photo sets with Dallas, I contacted Dallas immediately to speak with him about it. I wanted to know what 'a few' meant and what his intentions were with the content. If it was a small amount, then possibly purchsing the content and licensing other content he might have shot with the model that is available elsewhere. Once any issues arise with ANYTHING in our business they are dealt with them immediately.

When I spoke with Dallas, he was upset and said that he was developing an entire site around the same model. He mentioned that we had spoke about the concept early last year for that style of site and that it was HIS. We have spoken about many ideas and concepts, to base a memory off of a last night drinking and brainstorming in Thailand is not in the best interest of anyone. I approached Dallas with all of the different avenues of resolution I could think of; purchasing his content, working together on a site, putting up two sites and selling as a partnership betwen them. I even mentioned selling our content to him.

The main issue comes from Dallas feeling as though it was intentional. Simply put, it is not worth our time, money or energy to spend thousands and thousands to purposely produce a concept or site that someone is already doing.

And there is the spin I have been waiting for... Nice one!!!

In fact, you are correct, this did happen a couple of days ago, and that was when I started writing this post.

You said, and I quote, "This concept is a great one, which is one that we felt we could do better than anyone else." more than once.

I also said I don't care if she shoots for others, I can't stop that, but a solo site is something I am doing with her. You encouraged it, brainstormed with me, and said it was going to make a lot of money.

You knew what I was doing, Mark knew it, and everyone else you hang with over there knows it and has confirmed to me you knew it. I consulted them before I posted this to make sure I was not in the wrong. It's not going to fly Marty, not this time, not with me. But nice try and thanks for the bump.

01-22-2007, 11:28 PM	#1
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	** How Island Dollars fucked me over? Are you next? ** I'm not really one to go public with drama but this one I felt I had to because I want to show the other side to a team that everyone thinks is honest and respectable. I have been working for about a year with a Thai model, devolving a solo site for her. At this point there have been countless hours and a lot of money put into this project, and while technically I could open the site now, it is in a line of sites to be opened and would be opened according to our production schedule. This model is a one of a kind, STUNNING model. A serious money maker. Her domain was registered on 12-03-2005, we started production in Jan 2006 with a plan to open late spring of 2007. Being that we were getting closer to the launch, we have been building her profile on various networking sites such as MySpace and others since the beginning of this year. Back up to several months ago, I was out having a drink with Marty & Mark from IslandDollars.com when we ran into the model I was working with. Knowing that they were in the same business as I was, I let them know right away that I was already working with her to develop a site and that was my project. They both agreed it was a winner and we discussed some ideas about it, and then moved onto another subject and it never came up again, until last night. Marty sent an ICQ to me last night to inform me that he "wants to avoid conflicts and work out the best arrangement between us" and that he had been working with my model behind my back AND paid for her boob job because he thought "This concept is a great one, which is one that we felt we could do better than anyone else." At first I thought he was joking with me because I really didn't think anyone would be that big of a cock sucker, but I was quick to learn he was very serious. I was then instantly insulted at the fact that he would tell me he though he could do it better than anyone else, and that he did this knowing in full what my intentions were with her. The same for Mark, his partner. Marty is a smooth talker and tried to spin the fact that he fucked me over into a situation where ?we? could ?make a positive" out it, and said that there were many ways this could go and that "he would leave the door open" but his only real solution was from him to buy my content of her to go on his site, which he thinks would be ready to launch around April. I can not control who a model shoots with. None of us can. I also can not control if someone wants to shoot the exact model I am working with. Models are not properties that belong to us. I don?t even care that they shot her, but I do care that they are building a site around her, knowing that I was doing the same. If I did not know Marty & Mark and they had no idea what I was up to, and they did this, there would not be a problem and the early bird would get the worm. However, the fact is, both of them knew in great detail what my intentions were and that I was already working with her on this project. This was a blatant stabbing in the back. Of course Marty tried to say that he didn't remember that I was doing that with her, but if that was the case then he would not have felt the need to contact me to discuss the issue. He claimed he only thought I was working with her for DVD work, but in fact he and I brained stormed on ideas for the site, and he and Mark both thought it was brilliant and a must do project. Up until that point I trusted Marty and never thought in my worst nightmares that they would do this to me. I didn't think anyone I knew and got along with would stoop so low. However, what I also found out not long after was that Marty used to work with another program, and that program owner shared his dreams and ideas with Marty to do an Asian solo girl program. Of course, wouldn't you know Marty quit, and with Mark started IslandDollars.com, an Asian solo girl program. It was his best friend that he stabbed in the back to do this. Great friend this guy turns out to be it seems. In an industry full of scammer, liars, thieves and bottom feeders, it is a breath of fresh air to find people like yourself who you think are a good people and can work together to achieve common goals. I thought the Island Dollars team was among this group and was trustworthy. Then I start to wonder, if Marty will fuck over his best friend, then me, over money... then who else has he fucked over, or which one of you will get it next? Can a dishonest team run an honest program? I would have to say no, because either you are an honest man or you're not. You either fuck people over or you are honorable and earn the respect of those around you. IslandDollars.com no longer has my support, and most importantly no longer has my respect and my trust. Mark and Marty, who I once considered among friends, have shown their true colors and would no be welcome in my home or at my table. I wish them luck with their conquest to shoot Thai bar girls and pass them off as girls next door, farmers and Indians. Pattaya, Thailand will never run dry of whores that will shoot for them and in fact has close to 100,000 of them. And to think with all of those potential models, they just had to shoot THE ONE that they knew I was already working with. As I said before, Marty is a very smooth talker and will be quick to put a spin on this, denying all accusations claiming he was not aware or did not remember the conversation about this. There is no doubt he is going to chime in here with his smooth BS in an attempt to justify his actions and not look like a back stabber among his peers. His gift is the ability to talk, and he does it well. As a program owner and someone with a good reputation, he can?t afford for his true colors to be shown, so you can expect the same amount of bull shit to be posted by him, as he has been giving me. Don?t fall for it. The entire circle of guys that hang out together over there ALL knew about this project I was working on, but coincidentally ONLY the Island Dollars team ?forgot? about it and decided to shoot her anyway. They may or may not post here to defend my accusations, it is up to them, but they know the truth. However, their support to substantiate my story would be appreciated. I am very disappointed with these guys, and now know that I can not trust them, support them or do business with them of any kind. In fact Marty offered, as a peace offering I?m sure, to distribute and collect 100% of a Ladyboy DVD he shot and has been selling on VOD. I declined this generous offer based on the fact that he fucked me once and will probably fuck me again. How do you trust someone who just pulled a move like this? If you take anything from my experience, know that regardless of your friendship with the guys at Island Dollars, you must assume they will steal any ideas you share with them or fuck you over if they see an opportunity to make a few bucks. Watch your back if you do business with anyone from Island Dollars. Peace & chicken grease, DWB P.S. Please bump this until the end of time.

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01-22-2007, 11:36 PM	#7
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01-22-2007, 11:29 PM	#2
sharp Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,006	bump for drama.

01-22-2007, 11:33 PM	#5
Darkhorse Horsing Around Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: AU Posts: 5,862	Ya that sounds pretty fucked up.

01-22-2007, 11:40 PM	#9
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01-22-2007, 11:40 PM	#10
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	It does sound like a mess, but to protect yourself you should have signed her to some kind of a contract that would forbid her from shooting elsewhere or limit the work she could do away from you. It may not be 100% fair to her, but if you are starting a site around her you need to be in control of her content. the model aside, if he knew you were developing a site around her the honorable thing to do would have been to contact you and either forewarn you they were also going to develop a site or work with you, but then again there is often little honor in business.

01-22-2007, 11:43 PM	#11
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01-22-2007, 11:49 PM	#15
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01-23-2007, 12:00 AM	#21
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01-23-2007, 12:02 AM	#22
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01-23-2007, 12:02 AM	#23
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01-23-2007, 12:10 AM	#27
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	Sorry that this happened to you DWB... As you now know, unless you have a model under contract (and even that is not always 100% ironclad), they can walk on you. Besides the shady manuevering of Island Dollars, the model should bear some of the heat for this too. That's pretty ungrateful of her to do this behind your back. I experienced a similar situation where I invested over $10,000 into a model (including paying for her boob job), only to have her go over to launch a solo site with another webmaster (whom I had given lots of free advice to), after I shot 30 plus sets of her with the clear intention of launching a solo site. My advice is to launch your site tomorrow. Flood the net with your content. Recoup whatever you can, and when their site launches, use the content of her to promote your other sites - I mean saturate it so much that no one will want to join the other version of the site. I haven't heard Island Dollars side of the story, but I doubt that you would put your own rep on the line by talking trash without warrant. If I were Island Dollars, I would be putting a pretty damn good lucrative deal together to make it up to you, instead of wasting time trying to argue. There is no reason that you can't still work things out now that you have laid your cards on the table, although in hindsight, it might have been better to sleep on it for a night or two, and then try to cut some mutually acceptable deal with them. It's tough to be patient in the heat and passion of the moment, but often times it proves to be the best course to follow. Good luck to you bro, ADG Webmaster __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

01-23-2007, 12:10 AM	#28
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01-23-2007, 12:18 AM	#36
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01-23-2007, 12:25 AM	#38
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01-23-2007, 12:33 AM	#41
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01-23-2007, 12:40 AM	#43
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	"[02:04] IslandDollars: With the comments and what you listed in the post, with the action/blacklisting/violence there is nothing further to discuss between us. " I just want to say here that I did not say anything about violence. "Destroy" did not mean violence in a physical sense. That's not my style.

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01-23-2007, 12:42 AM	#45
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01-23-2007, 12:44 AM	#46
The Ghost IslandDollars.com Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Icq: 176176 Posts: 12,188	Between the icq's with Dallas and our first drama thread I will try to be factual and cover the issues. Dallas and I have been speaking about this for days, and the issue did not occur last night. I originally contacted Dallas on Jan 18th, the second when I thought there might possibly be an issue. The model in question has done work with a few other producers, and already has content up on websites and available on mainstream adult DVDs. The model has a completely unique and amazing look than anything produced with her before. Once the model casually mentioned that she had shot a 'few' photo sets with Dallas, I contacted Dallas immediately to speak with him about it. I wanted to know what 'a few' meant and what his intentions were with the content. If it was a small amount, then possibly purchsing the content and licensing other content he might have shot with the model that is available elsewhere. Once any issues arise with ANYTHING in our business they are dealt with them immediately. When I spoke with Dallas, he was upset and said that he was developing an entire site around the same model. He mentioned that we had spoke about the concept early last year for that style of site and that it was HIS. We have spoken about many ideas and concepts, to base a memory off of a last night drinking and brainstorming in Thailand is not in the best interest of anyone. I approached Dallas with all of the different avenues of resolution I could think of; purchasing his content, working together on a site, putting up two sites and selling as a partnership betwen them. I even mentioned selling our content to him. The main issue comes from Dallas feeling as though it was intentional. Simply put, it is not worth our time, money or energy to spend thousands and thousands to purposely produce a concept or site that someone is already doing. __________________ ISLAND DOLLARS 1000's of Exclusive TS scenes / Constant Updates Best TS Network your surfers will ever join

01-23-2007, 12:45 AM	#47
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01-23-2007, 12:47 AM	#49
tical Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 6,504	thats bullshit man, you don't just think up the same unique idea you conveniently forgot about due to a long night of drinking __________________ 112.020.756