My Second Successful Year In Adult, and What I've Learned - GoFuckYourself.com

Sands · 12-07-2008, 08:40 AM

After my first full year in adult, I made a thread where I listed some choice tidbits about what I had learned. Now that I'm finishing up my second full year in adult, I'll list a few more things I've learned:

1) Someone is always making money, regardless of whether or not you're making money. There is always money to be made, there is always a market to sell to, and if you're not making that money, then someone else is.

2) Having dependable and honest friends and business associates is an absolute necessity. It's just too costly to try and work with people who are of questionable ethics and have a sordid history. You need to be able to depend on your friends, especially when the market is stretched thin as it is now.

3) Diversify your projects. The ability to rely on one revenue stream while another is under-performing is absolutely critical. If there are downs in adult, focus on the ups in mainstream. If there are down in designing, focus on the ups in programming.

4) Revshare is still the best. I have one revshare sponsor where I'm averaging $37.15 per signup and another where I'm averaging $88.39 per signup. You guys can keep your PPS.

5) Get it online now, and work out the kinks as you go. A pretty smart dude made me understand this one. Whatever your project is, get it online now, and work on it as you go or else it may lose momentum and it may not materialize at all.

Here's to a third year!

mrwilson · 12-07-2008, 08:43 AM

Congrats on the second year! All the best for the third

Kristian · 12-07-2008, 08:43 AM

Fantastic - FANTASTIC - post! May the coming year be even better for you.

Fletch XXX · 12-07-2008, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sands

2) Having dependable and honest friends and business associates is an absolute necessity. It's just too costly to try and work with people who are of questionable ethics and have a sordid history. You need to be able to depend on your friends, especially when the market is stretched thin as it is now.

beware of the CANDYFLIP, he runs the scammeths

baX · 12-07-2008, 08:47 AM

Hope you'll make even more money in 2009.

Tam · 12-07-2008, 08:47 AM

very nice. congrats.

Supz · 12-07-2008, 09:08 AM

Good post Sands!

Sands · 12-07-2008, 10:03 AM

Thanks for the well-wishes, everyone!

PenetratinP · 12-07-2008, 10:03 AM

Hey Sands, I've got to ask. Did you use the nick "Sands" in the "Tribes" multi-player game?

I'm just wondering because I used to play that game in college years ago and I remember a guy named "Sands" being in the clan I was in.

Sands · 12-07-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PenetratinP

Hey Sands, I've got to ask. Did you use the nick "Sands" in the "Tribes" multi-player game?

I'm just wondering because I used to play that game in college years ago and I remember a guy named "Sands" being in the clan I was in.

Haha, nah man, it actually stands for Shoots and Splatters, the very first adult website I ever made (and recently resurrected).

DannysReviews|com · 12-07-2008, 10:27 AM

Congrats!

SeanHart · 12-07-2008, 10:35 AM

Good tips. I've learned number 5 the hard way.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-07-2008, 10:36 AM

Nice post Roy!

GTS Mark · 12-07-2008, 10:37 AM

Congratulations!

woj · 12-07-2008, 10:38 AM

well said dude

mrkris · 12-07-2008, 11:15 AM

Well written post.

VicD · 12-07-2008, 11:32 AM

Thanks for the tips!

The Duck · 12-07-2008, 11:35 AM

Here is to another succesful year!

Deej · 12-07-2008, 12:02 PM

Woot - I for one am glad you have decided to stick around! Heres to many more succesful years Sands

SomeCreep · 12-07-2008, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sands

I have one revshare sponsor where I'm averaging $37.15 per signup and another where I'm averaging $88.39 per signup.

Which sponsors?

notime · 12-07-2008, 12:40 PM

Good read. And congrats by the way.

Elli · 12-07-2008, 12:44 PM

You are a quick learner

Great tips for everyone, not just new folks!

Redrob · 12-07-2008, 12:51 PM

Congrats and Best Wishes.

I'd add a number six: Never stop learning and looking for new techniques, softwares, and opportunities. If you are not growing, you're dying.

alias · 12-07-2008, 12:53 PM

Right on, right on.. .

Jens Van Assterdam · 12-07-2008, 12:54 PM

Grats, for someone reason i always thought you were a girl writing reviews n shit, but then again im hi

leek · 12-07-2008, 12:57 PM

For someone who is also relatively new to adult, I must say this is an excellent post. Best of luck in the future, bro.

Doctor Dre · 12-07-2008, 02:25 PM

LOL I can't people Candyflip is still arround the forum, idiots trusting him lol

papill0n · 12-07-2008, 02:51 PM

Lacking the usual plethora of superlatives Roy but a great post regardless :thumpsup

bdld · 12-07-2008, 03:01 PM

2 years is a short time to reach success, took me 4+ yrs to make good money

Jack Sparrow · 12-07-2008, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sands

After my first full year in adult, I made a thread where I listed some choice tidbits about what I had learned. Now that I'm finishing up my second full year in adult, I'll list a few more things I've learned:

1) Someone is always making money, regardless of whether or not you're making money. There is always money to be made, there is always a market to sell to, and if you're not making that money, then someone else is.

2) Having dependable and honest friends and business associates is an absolute necessity. It's just too costly to try and work with people who are of questionable ethics and have a sordid history. You need to be able to depend on your friends, especially when the market is stretched thin as it is now.

3) Diversify your projects. The ability to rely on one revenue stream while another is under-performing is absolutely critical. If there are downs in adult, focus on the ups in mainstream. If there are down in designing, focus on the ups in programming.

4) Revshare is still the best. I have one revshare sponsor where I'm averaging $37.15 per signup and another where I'm averaging $88.39 per signup. You guys can keep your PPS.

5) Get it online now, and work out the kinks as you go. A pretty smart dude made me understand this one. Whatever your project is, get it online now, and work on it as you go or else it may lose momentum and it may not materialize at all.

Here's to a third year!

Great thread, grats and gl to you! I will be doing a similar thread, even a bit more confessing

(Who not to piss of even if they are asswipes because it will hurt your biz

)

Btw: point 4: what sponsor is that?

$5 submissions · 12-07-2008, 04:22 PM

Great thread, man.

EthnicLover · 12-07-2008, 04:33 PM

It's good to see that someone is evaluating their experiences and seeing how they can learn and adapt. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result can be slightly maddening.

#1 is especially poignant. While one person bitches and moans others scoop up the profits. Best of luck in the coming year.

crockett · 12-07-2008, 04:50 PM

Quote:

5) Get it online now, and work out the kinks as you go. A pretty smart dude made me understand this one. Whatever your project is, get it online now, and work on it as you go or else it may lose momentum and it may not materialize at all.

Yea I can't agree with that one enough. It's something that took me a while to learn and I still don't do it all the time. I'm a perfectionist and I hate launching a site until it's ready.. but time and time again the site never gets launched or it takes a long time to do it.

novanuke · 12-07-2008, 06:19 PM

revshare rules for me too

Sands · 12-07-2008, 06:24 PM

Wow, thanks! I appreciate the support

As far as the sponsors in #4, I think I'll keep them to myself.

bronco67 · 12-07-2008, 09:38 PM

I really need to take heed on number 5.

I've been working on some pretty amazing 3d stuff, and it only looks so great because I've been working on it for years. I'm setting up things so that I can produce high quality stuff very quickly.

Problem is, I feel like I'll never finish it. It's time for me to get something out there, and perfect it later.

andy83 · 12-07-2008, 11:07 PM

nice review of your 2nd year

WinstonTriplexcash · 12-07-2008, 11:31 PM

May next year supercede your success! Congrats

Bojangles · 12-07-2008, 11:40 PM

Congrats.

Zuzana Designs · 12-07-2008, 11:41 PM

very nice post and congrats

GAMEFINEST · 12-07-2008, 11:44 PM

good points...get up and work..

NicAngel · 12-07-2008, 11:51 PM

Good for you!! Thanks for sharing your tips and best of luck to you in the years to come!

kahell · 12-08-2008, 12:10 AM

cheers for the 3rd year!!!

tigermtb · 12-08-2008, 12:49 AM

Good post!

peedy · 12-08-2008, 03:22 AM

good post, as others have said point #5 is my biggest hurdle, I want everything to be perfect before i put it out there. I gotta learn to just say fuck it and get it out there and finish/improve it as we go.

Vixenator · 12-08-2008, 03:26 AM

wise words...

Paul Markham · 12-08-2008, 03:29 AM

There will always be money to be made in porn. Well done Sands.

NickSunshine · 12-08-2008, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sands

Haha, nah man, it actually stands for Shoots and Splatters, the very first adult website I ever made (and recently resurrected).

omg, i had no idea.

you so sneaky

NickSunshine · 12-08-2008, 04:59 AM

+ hi sands

NickSunshine · 12-08-2008, 05:00 AM

where the hell is page 2?

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12-07-2008, 08:40 AM	#1
Sands Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 418194907 Posts: 3,134	My Second Successful Year In Adult, and What I've Learned After my first full year in adult, I made a thread where I listed some choice tidbits about what I had learned. Now that I'm finishing up my second full year in adult, I'll list a few more things I've learned: 1) Someone is always making money, regardless of whether or not you're making money. There is always money to be made, there is always a market to sell to, and if you're not making that money, then someone else is. 2) Having dependable and honest friends and business associates is an absolute necessity. It's just too costly to try and work with people who are of questionable ethics and have a sordid history. You need to be able to depend on your friends, especially when the market is stretched thin as it is now. 3) Diversify your projects. The ability to rely on one revenue stream while another is under-performing is absolutely critical. If there are downs in adult, focus on the ups in mainstream. If there are down in designing, focus on the ups in programming. 4) Revshare is still the best. I have one revshare sponsor where I'm averaging $37.15 per signup and another where I'm averaging $88.39 per signup. You guys can keep your PPS. 5) Get it online now, and work out the kinks as you go. A pretty smart dude made me understand this one. Whatever your project is, get it online now, and work on it as you go or else it may lose momentum and it may not materialize at all. Here's to a third year!

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Kristian Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,733	Fantastic - FANTASTIC - post! May the coming year be even better for you.

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Sands Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 418194907 Posts: 3,134	Thanks for the well-wishes, everyone!

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