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rbrruss 12-06-2008 02:22 PM

The songs have the same feel, but I bet if you transcribed the melodies and looked at them on paper they would be very different.
The reason is that Coldplay is a pop group, so the melody is much more simplified.
Satch is a shredder, so his melody is more complex. (That's the nature of shredders, they just can't avoid adding extra notes).
So, on paper I bet Coldplay's melody would have about half as many notes as Satch's.

But I think Coldplay will still end up settling with him.

Ryan St. Germain 12-06-2008 02:28 PM

I'm not a fan of either. I think that the Satriani song isn't that great and that Coldplay took it and made it worse.

papill0n 12-06-2008 02:49 PM

I need to listen to flying in a blue dream

spanky part 2 12-06-2008 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 15154643)
I didnt realize the House of Blues here in Vegas was the local corner bar, but perhaps you know better? Nah...

And yes I've been a fan since the 80's. Good music is timeless. Its mostly the trendy, immature kids that pretend to like something today because its popular at the moment, and then show disgust for it when the next big popular thing comes out. Are you that kind of person?

My bet is I am older than you, and mr. irrelevant has never even had a hit worth remembering. I'm not bitter, I just hate when people who you haven't heard from in almost 25 years all of a sudden say "hey that's my song". Gimme a break. How many of these artists base their music off of classics or the beatles and call it their own.

AmeliaG 12-06-2008 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 15153918)
There is nothing original anymore. Where do you get your ideas from? You think it's original, but the inspiration came from some where. Statriani is a has been and never was. Sour fucking grapes, he's just pissed he can't sing.



You are totally right. Satriani is an average guy. Nobody is special. Nothing is original. Nobody creates anything. We should totally cancel intellectual property. In fact, all entertainment and all science should be given away for free to all. So what if that removes much of the impetus to create or discover. Nothing is new anyway. So what if it also incidentally removes the bedrock almost all of the legal adult industry is based on.

/sarcasm

I am honestly baffled that anyone who purports to believe the things you claim bothers to get out of bed in the morning. What's the point?

aico 12-06-2008 03:45 PM

wouldn't be the first person they've ripped off.

Mr Pheer 12-06-2008 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 15155501)
My bet is I am older than you, and mr. irrelevant has never even had a hit worth remembering. I'm not bitter, I just hate when people who you haven't heard from in almost 25 years all of a sudden say "hey that's my song". Gimme a break. How many of these artists base their music off of classics or the beatles and call it their own.

Havent heard from him in 25 years? He is on tour almost every year, he just finished his 2008 world tour for his new album that he released in the spring. 13 Grammy nominations and 15 million records sold.. not bad for a guy that cant sing and just plays his guitar.

But to call him a has been and never was, sounds pretty unfair. He is everything he wants to be. Any band in the world would be thrilled to add him to their lineup. I dont understand your bitterness with the guy. Anyone who would deny that he is one of the very top guitarist in the world in simply living in denial and lying to themselves, or just retarded.

Tom_PM 12-06-2008 03:58 PM

Using songs like Happy Birthday or non PD pop songs or whatever costs a lot to do legally. Thats why some tv shows or movies make up their own happy birthday baloney song so they dont have to pay. You hear this on some dvd commentaries how they pay through the nose for those small snippets you hear sometimes. Into the tens of thousands.

Pop goes the weasel or camptown races on the other hand.. public domain, so go nuts. Happy Birthday however? Pay up or be sued.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You

CarlosTheGaucho 12-06-2008 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 15155678)
But to call him a has been and never was, sounds pretty unfair. He is everything he wants to be. Any band in the world would be thrilled to add him to their lineup.

He actually alternated for Ritch Blackmore with Deep Purple in 1993 Japan tour, I've even heard the bootleg, what's not that well known is that it was not his only engagement ever without his name on, as he was a part of Mick Jagger's touring band before his breakthrough record.

Joe made a great deal of popularizing guitar throughout the 90's, he's an excellent guitarist with bluesy roots and although not all of his work is entirely that consistent, he deserves full credit - making the pop charts with instrumental rock just sounds surreal.

I remember his performance at the Expo Sevilla 1992 among with Vai, Brian May, Joe Walsh and others, that was just incredible, I'll have to check if those sessions were ever released on a DVD.

Loryn 12-06-2008 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 15155678)
Havent heard from him in 25 years? He is on tour almost every year, he just finished his 2008 world tour for his new album that he released in the spring. 13 Grammy nominations and 15 million records sold.. not bad for a guy that cant sing and just plays his guitar.

But to call him a has been and never was, sounds pretty unfair. He is everything he wants to be. Any band in the world would be thrilled to add him to their lineup. I dont understand your bitterness with the guy. Anyone who would deny that he is one of the very top guitarist in the world in simply living in denial and lying to themselves, or just retarded.


I will go with retarded. Thank you!!! haha The guy is classic and still around for sure. ColdPlay is for chicks, I do like some of their music, I'm a chick haha, but I would never EVER put them anywhere in the same ball park, fuck the same sport, as Satriani. I would rather listen to Satriani than ColdPlay any day!!! :thumbsup I am a rocker for sure and I wouldn?t consider ColdPlay rockers. There hasn?t been a fucking rockin? rock band formed after 1991, maybe Mason or Foo Fighters, but Foo Fighters came out of Nirvana, so I would put them before 1991. Just my :2 cents:

Loryn 12-06-2008 04:20 PM

Oh, I agree with Mr Pheer in case my post wasn't clear on that. :winkwink:

50 rockers!!! :thumbsup

Mr Pheer 12-06-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 15155724)
He actually alternated for Ritch Blackmore with Deep Purple in 1993 Japan tour, I've even heard the bootleg, what's not that well known is that it was not his only engagement ever without his name on, as he was a part of Mick Jagger's touring band before his breakthrough record.

Joe made a great deal of popularizing guitar throughout the 90's, he's an excellent guitarist with bluesy roots and although not all of his work is entirely that consistent, he deserves full credit - making the pop charts with instrumental rock just sounds surreal.

I remember his performance at the Expo Sevilla 1992 among with Vai, Brian May, Joe Walsh and others, that was just incredible, I'll have to check if those sessions were ever released on a DVD.

Yeah man I know his history, I just didnt feel typing it all for this guy. Remember, he hasnt heard from him in 25 years. Joe also has another tour that he does called G3 where he has other top guitarists come and play with him.

Right now he is recording with Sammy Hagar, Michael Anthony from Van Halen, and Chad Smith from Red Hot Chilli Peppers for an album that is supposed to come out next spring. Band is rumored to be called ChickenFoot but thats not confirmed yet.

And here is my Ibanez JS1200, Joe Satriani signature series :thumbsup

http://www.mrpheer.com/pics/guitars/js1200.jpg

Sly 12-06-2008 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 15153918)
There is nothing original anymore. Where do you get your ideas from? You think it's original, but the inspiration came from some where. Statriani is a has been and never was. Sour fucking grapes, he's just pissed he can't sing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Satriani

Sounds like you are the one with sour grapes...

$5 submissions 12-06-2008 04:32 PM

I wonder if the court will use the same fairly lenient standards that led to George Harrison's loss in the famous "My Sweet Lord" vs. "He's so Shy" copyright infringment case.

CarlosTheGaucho 12-06-2008 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Loryn (Post 15155755)
There hasn?t been a fucking rockin? rock band formed after 1991, maybe Mason or Foo Fighters, but Foo Fighters came out of Nirvana, so I would put them before 1991. Just my :2 cents:

:pimp:pimp

Yeah I have the same feeling, can hardly name a band or a project that wouldn't have roots in the late 80's or early 90's.

spanky part 2 12-06-2008 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 15155629)
You are totally right. Satriani is an average guy. Nobody is special. Nothing is original. Nobody creates anything. We should totally cancel intellectual property. In fact, all entertainment and all science should be given away for free to all. So what if that removes much of the impetus to create or discover. Nothing is new anyway. So what if it also incidentally removes the bedrock almost all of the legal adult industry is based on.

/sarcasm

I am honestly baffled that anyone who purports to believe the things you claim bothers to get out of bed in the morning. What's the point?

Well I certainly wouldn't get out of bed for you , by the look of your picture.

I don't think you can even understand the concepts I am talking about. All I am saying is that everything in art, music etc gets it's inspiration from somewhere. One of the top fashion photographers literally copies old editorials from the past, and rehashes them as his own. His work is in Vogue every single month and is thought to be brilliant. Should he be sued by the original shooter? Maybe. What about rap artists that "sample" music and call it their own?

The similarity is slight if at all. They are more different than they are alike. He's a has been just trying to make some cash because he can't make it on his own. I hope they counter sue for harassment.

spanky part 2 12-06-2008 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 15155781)
Yeah man I know his history, I just didnt feel typing it all for this guy. Remember, he hasnt heard from him in 25 years. Joe also has another tour that he does called G3 where he has other top guitarists come and play with him.

Right now he is recording with Sammy Hagar, Michael Anthony from Van Halen, and Chad Smith from Red Hot Chilli Peppers for an album that is supposed to come out next spring. Band is rumored to be called ChickenFoot but thats not confirmed yet.

And here is my Ibanez JS1200, Joe Satriani signature series :thumbsup

http://www.mrpheer.com/pics/guitars/js1200.jpg

You need to listen to the song "Glory Days" and then take a long hard look in the mirror.

Mr Pheer 12-06-2008 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 15156077)
He's a has been just trying to make some cash because he can't make it on his own.

You are obviously either mentaly handicapped or just being a troll. Either way, not worth further discussion with you.

spanky part 2 12-06-2008 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 15156139)
You are obviously either mentaly handicapped or just being a troll. Either way, not worth further discussion with you.

Well you do love fish and sea lions better than people and with your taste in music, probably a good thing.:thumbsup

Mr Pheer 12-06-2008 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 15156219)
Well you do love fish and sea lions better than people and with your taste in music, probably a good thing.:thumbsup

I'm a diver, and unlike you, fish and sea lions tend to not be idiots and they are actually quite interesting to be around. Have a nice evening.

Kudles 12-06-2008 08:19 PM

What an idiot

marylandcrab 02-08-2014 01:45 AM

i wish the lawsuit wave would hit the gman and take them down.
they have been stealing for almost a generation.
and swarmy mfuckers like eric schmidt are the bruce cutlers of these scumbags he can take his 100 mil bonus and [fantasy payback]
that said.
since it won't happen i will continue posting on yout until the antichrist is vanquished. so what are we gonna do go in the public square and yell ' wake up"?
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