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mikesouth · 12-08-2008, 05:10 PM

100 reasons bot to send money to the FSC

FightThisPatent · 12-08-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

..... it still doesn't mitigate the point that what it really does is rewards the FSC for nothing and it gives them no reason to be accountable or otherwise improve. It's throwing money at them hoping they improve which history shows us they wont.

more funding won't solve the problems.... but it would certainly help to hire more staff that could handle the PR issues, and the communications to members, etc.

The Max Hardcore case is truly disturbing on so many levels, the most obvious being that he has gone to jail because a consumer (ie. the DA) ordered his product (ie. they wanted to see the extreme sex) to be viewed in the privacy of their own home (or in this case, in the conference room of a DA office and courtroom -which the jurors did not choose to watch the video, they had to watch the video- ) and goes to jail for it (including forfeitures).

Many people didn't pay attention to the case. I was posting up news items from Mark Kernes (excellent) write-ups of the case. If more people paid attention to Max's case, they should have gotten a chilled effect on their spine, that should have straightened it up, to then think about how to protect their business.

I think that the next FSC board meeting, they should have you there, and give you the floor to be as critical and as piercing as you have been, to pull off the kid gloves, to remove the vail, to release the volcano of frustration that you have observed, along with others.. with the goal that it doesn't fall on deaf ears, that change will be shared by other board members who feel the same, but having your voice and words starting the process.

During that discussion, any inaccuracies in your beliefs of FSC could certainly be dispelled or corrected, but once they flag away the smoke, what is left is the fire underneath, which is the true problems, the real criticisms that are the current weakness, but can be made into the roadmap for strengthening the organization.

Much like the mythical Phoenix, there is an opportunity to rise.

BUT, talk around the table, and understanding of the issues, still won't be enough to get the money to do the kind of work that FSC is being asked to do.

And so, it comes back to money......

Fight the lack of money is the root of all evil!

mikesouth · 12-08-2008, 07:27 PM

i wouldnt hold my breath bro....

Iscari0t · 12-10-2008, 11:48 AM

I'm down with the FSC in theory--an EFF for the porn biz. Fantastic. There are plenty of threats to free speech, and there will continue to be in the next administration. Problem is, I didn't "Free Speech" on the agenda at the last FSC conference. The entire show was a rant about tube sites, with panel titles like "Who to sue and how," with moderators and panelists who were ALL LAWYERS hawking their services.

I'm well aware that tube sites are a business problem, but the FSC should be addressing other issues. It was, instead, acting like a trade association. There was even a panel about forming a trade association. All good issues, but off-topic. If I'm giving money to a not-for-profit to defend my first amendment rights, that's where I'd liek to see the money go. For the moment, that money will be going to www.eff.org.

12-08-2008, 05:10 PM	#101
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	100 reasons bot to send money to the FSC __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

12-08-2008, 07:27 PM	#103
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	i wouldnt hold my breath bro.... __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

12-10-2008, 11:48 AM	#104
Iscari0t Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 79	I'm down with the FSC in theory--an EFF for the porn biz. Fantastic. There are plenty of threats to free speech, and there will continue to be in the next administration. Problem is, I didn't "Free Speech" on the agenda at the last FSC conference. The entire show was a rant about tube sites, with panel titles like "Who to sue and how," with moderators and panelists who were ALL LAWYERS hawking their services. I'm well aware that tube sites are a business problem, but the FSC should be addressing other issues. It was, instead, acting like a trade association. There was even a panel about forming a trade association. All good issues, but off-topic. If I'm giving money to a not-for-profit to defend my first amendment rights, that's where I'd liek to see the money go. For the moment, that money will be going to www.eff.org.