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12-02-2008, 11:23 PM

A friend of mine is just a little over the age of the first generation really comfortable with computers (he is 50) and his son is 13 and they have no computer, and the kid is really bright, yet they have no computer and he is of the old school thought that books and study are what are important, and that the internet is full of alot of bad shit.

He is right about some of that, but I am of the thought that being exposed to the realities of the world is a good thing and wouldn't really hurt anything.

Thinking of myself, I wish the internet had been around huge when I was a youngster, so now that I see this friend completely keeping his son away from the net and computing it seems like a real shame to me.

I wonder how it will turn out? I know if I was raising a kid they would be all over learning computing science and doing all kinds of research online, so it is weird to see him raising his kid from a completely opposite perspective.

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12-02-2008, 11:47 PM

well atleast his kid eats meat!
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12-02-2008, 11:49 PM

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well atleast his kid eats meat!

where did I say that? funny you should mention that, because actually the kid's mother is a vegetarian and she raised the son as a vegetarian and only in the last couple of years has he started to eat a little bit of fish or chicken

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12-02-2008, 11:53 PM

Its way of leaving in today world and i am sure he will be fine but may be behind of things.... many brick and mortar are closing down though....computers will be taking a huge part of everyones life whether they like it or not....you can not hide from reality.

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12-02-2008, 11:57 PM

well everyone has their point of views, there ARE kids growing up without computers everywhere, just less in developed countries, but yes, there still are. one reason might be financial while others might be morality or other issues. there's too much stuff out there on the net that might corrupt a young one, which is probably why parental filters are doing roaring business. They probably would give him a computer when he gets older and would need it more for his studies, especially when he can start to think and make his own decisions

but still, thats pretty weird, i can't imagine not having a computer at home

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12-03-2008, 12:55 AM

That's too bad. The internet is a blessing.

Yesterday I used the internet to re-teach myself how to divide numbers. No joke. I've used calculators for so long that I completely forgot how to divide large numbers on paper. I only realized it when trying to divide and I didn't have a calculator handy. I used to be a mathematics ace, in elementary school anyway lol. How embarrasing haha
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12-03-2008, 01:13 AM

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12-03-2008, 01:16 AM

The kid is going to grow up, buy a computer and rebel....

He will be stuck on the internet looking at porn and playing wow, he will eventuate to nothing.

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12-03-2008, 01:16 AM

I really do not think many are afraid of the internet itself. It is the access to certain elements and shall we say people. Remember many of us are fairly adjusted and can think for ourselves, and rarely hold wide scale beliefs that everything must fit into - such as someone who grew up to be say Kandah.

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12-03-2008, 01:30 AM

In school, they teach computers. In library there's internet.

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12-03-2008, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by StaceyJo

In school, they teach computers. In library there's internet.

And then there are also those that home school.

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12-03-2008, 03:18 AM

I'm competent enough to be able to implement a content blocking solution, but I suspect that by the time my daughter gets old enough to be curious about adult things she'll probably know how to bypass it. All you need these days is to piggyback onto someone else's wifi connection and you're suddenly beyond the realm of daddy's home office network...
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12-03-2008, 03:21 AM

restricting your kid off stuff 95% of his or her friends have always backfires

these parents if they want should pick their ass up and move to a place where noone has the net and not go against the grain

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12-03-2008, 03:22 AM

Originally posted by rowan

I'm competent enough to be able to implement a content blocking solution, but I suspect that by the time my daughter gets old enough to be curious about adult things she'll probably know how to bypass it. All you need these days is to piggyback onto someone else's wifi connection and you're suddenly beyond the realm of daddy's home office network...

There's always the Fritzl defense ;)

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12-03-2008, 03:27 AM

The munchkin is 12, and has had his own laptop since he was 10.

Part of that was because I obviously was not going to let him on my computers, due to the nature of my work.

The internet is an invaluable tool, but I explain it to him that just like I wouldn't let him loose to roam wherever he wants to in the world, I won't let him loose to roam wherever he wants to on the internet. He's only allowed to use it in the same room I am in, and I have vastly exaggerated my ability to track his activity, even if he tries to clear his tracks.

He believes me.

It comes in very, very handy for homework, and we use it to find out all sorts of stuff that I can't answer for him. ie, very recently we used it together to find out how to tie a tie, as he needed to wear one, and I had no clue how to do it.

I can understand parents being leery of it, but I believe that children need to be computer literate, and it is something best taught responsibly in the home.

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12-03-2008, 03:28 AM

You know one of my closest friends is a pretty straight laced preacher's daughter but she doesn't try to keep her kids from the net. If she found out, however, her sons were looking at porn I know for a fact she'd have a damn huge cow and probably break the net or something lol

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12-03-2008, 03:56 AM

I forgot momentarily that I live in Australia, I won't need to block my daughter from accessing "naughty" things because the government will do it for me.

Of course, by then she'll probably also know how to bypass THAT.
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12-03-2008, 04:18 AM

I can understand the guys feelings and fears ... but it will probably backfire on him in the long run. My kid is 4 and has her own laptop, no net access, we just load learning games on it for her. She visits pbs.org under direct supervision. We are playing it by ear as we go forward. We have computers all over the house and they can't be hidden ...

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12-03-2008, 04:24 AM

can't shield a child from the truthiness of the world forever..... later on the shock will be tougher ...

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12-03-2008, 04:28 AM

It's true, the internet is full of shit but you can find a lot of useful information there...

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12-03-2008, 04:45 AM

Originally posted by After Shock Media

I really do not think many are afraid of the internet itself. It is the access to certain elements and shall we say people. Remember many of us are fairly adjusted and can think for ourselves, and rarely hold wide scale beliefs that everything must fit into - such as someone who grew up to be say Kandah.

I certainly do not have some kind of locked down belief system. That statement is just wrong.

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12-03-2008, 05:52 AM

Originally posted by RenegadeCash Mark

The kid is going to grow up, buy a computer and rebel....

He will be stuck on the internet looking at porn and playing wow, he will eventuate to nothing.

I was thinking the exact same thing.
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12-03-2008, 05:58 AM

ive finally gotten my mom to start "looking things up online" - she uses laptop for work and familiar with computers, but she is a bit not into the net yet...

i am proud of her, she is old school too and thinks if she hits enter key while online her personal info will be sent to the world LOL

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12-03-2008, 06:25 AM

No computer? Hope his kid will enjoy being unemployed when he grows up.

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12-03-2008, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by Mike33

That's too bad. The internet is a blessing.

Yesterday I used the internet to re-teach myself how to divide numbers. No joke. I've used calculators for so long that I completely forgot how to divide large numbers on paper. I only realized it when trying to divide and I didn't have a calculator handy. I used to be a mathematics ace, in elementary school anyway lol. How embarrasing haha

Wow, that's totally me as well. I did the EXACT same thing with long division recently. I also had to refresh myself on what the formula for the Fibonacci sequence is, and the quadtratic equation.
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12-03-2008, 06:35 AM

I was going to go and on about how much of our lives are affected by the net and how they are depriving their child of something that's only becoming more and more prevalent....

but then I thought, to each his own. The kid'll be fine. They'll be fine. I'll be fine. They can do what ever they want.

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12-03-2008, 06:40 AM

Originally posted by d-null

Thinking of myself, I wish the internet had been around huge when I was a youngster, so now that I see this friend completely keeping his son away from the net and computing it seems like a real shame to me.

Well there are a few things you also might consider that he may and you are not. You look back now and think you wish the internet was around then. Chances are your past self as a kid probably wouldn't use the internet like your present self would.

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I know if I was raising a kid they would be all over learning computing science and doing all kinds of research online...

That would be assuming your kid was an exact clone of the present you, chasing your dreams and learning things you would learn. Just because you see yourself in certain way doesn't mean your kids will be the same. Kids are kids and talking from experience, my 16 year old uses it for nothing but entertainment and drudgingly uses it for homework only when he has too. He is an A and B student so I am thankful he is smart but he doesn't use the internet like I would, he uses it like a goofball kid would.

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12-03-2008, 07:12 AM

Originally posted by d-null

A friend of mine is just a little over the age of the first generation really comfortable with computers (he is 50) and his son is 13 and they have no computer, and the kid is really bright, yet they have no computer and he is of the old school thought that books and study are what are important, and that the internet is full of alot of bad shit.

He is right about some of that, but I am of the thought that being exposed to the realities of the world is a good thing and wouldn't really hurt anything.

Thinking of myself, I wish the internet had been around huge when I was a youngster, so now that I see this friend completely keeping his son away from the net and computing it seems like a real shame to me.

I wonder how it will turn out? I know if I was raising a kid they would be all over learning computing science and doing all kinds of research online, so it is weird to see him raising his kid from a completely opposite perspective.

The kid may be book bright but for most older people who are 45+ see the world in a diffrent light and that light is far from reality!

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12-03-2008, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by EscortBiz

restricting your kid off stuff 95% of his or her friends have always backfires

these parents if they want should pick their ass up and move to a place where noone has the net and not go against the grain

yeah, not to mention the fact that 99% of the girls that he will potentially want to be playing around with and eventually dating will all have a "connected" view of relationships and the world...... not sure how that plays out but it has to be a factor

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12-03-2008, 01:52 PM

The internet is fucking useless these days.
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12-03-2008, 03:20 PM

Global Villlage, it's something brand new emerging, the new people who are used to virtual communication and virtual relationships practically from the day one, it will be a very interesting precedent.

We're facing it as adults, and now, let's be honest, who had MORE life without the PC and internet?

I did.

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12-03-2008, 03:39 PM

God bless the Internet.
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