OK, so business sucks....conversion ratios are lower than ever

duno what u talking about .. general teen niche is converting at 1:126 for me ... gotta try it out some time son ..

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AFF is converting 1:8 for me from yahoo chat rooms

















My bad its not 2003 anymore, damnit

son??? lol

you seem to be missing the boat, haven't you noticed all the sponsors that are paying $100 pps AND boasting a 1:279 ratio??

There are 1000's of new webmasters becoming millionaires as we speak.....

and the coloured girls go do be do be do be doo be doo

how much more easy can it get, send 10000 uniques and their magical mystery tour will convert at 1:200 so you will get 50 sales in a day and maybe even win a booby prize

sis? ... dam failed attempt numba 1... lol

But yeah I mean.. anyone converting at less than 2:1 is just wasting time ... or so I've heard...

This is 12 clicks bait....just wait for it.....

The thread title says "business sucks...conversion ratios are lower than ever"

But you don't say what it is that you do or how you do it. Are you an affiliate? How do you send traffic? How long you been doing this?

Because then you said "liars step up to the plate"

Some people on here, like me, have our own sites and our own traffic and know our way around and know how to make money. Things are slow right now. No doubt. There are a lot of reasons for that.

But to make a statement that you are doing bad, and so are a bunch of others...and so anyone who is doing well must be a liar is a little too broad of a paintbrush to use.

A lot of the big mega sites...I can't sell memberships anymore. I send 'em a ton of traffic. But there stuff is all over the tubes and torrents. So yeah, that is bad news. Can't sell a membership when the entire site is ripped for free.

And now we have affiliates "educating" surfers about x-sells. So now...we have millions of surfers who have been told a business secret and are now afraid to pull their card. Smart move. Probably the only business in the world where the salesmen are fucking up their own sales by revealing hidden costs.

And of course there is the economy. Sucks. And even worse is the psychological fear that people have. They might not have felt anything yet...but the media keeps talking 24/7 about how bad it is and it scares the shit out of the people who aren't doing too bad, because they think they are next so they sit on their money.

But for all of that...I've seen worse and made good money. Gonna keep right on doing it. If you're promoting a paysite that doesn't convert anymore. Keep looking. You'll figure out in the next few months that the site that PROTECT their content and shoot exclusive stuff with a solo girl with fans who are loyal and seek her out and stay is where the money is.

And there are also some other great sites that just came out and are selling real well for me. But I'm not gonna tell you which ones. Just check my free sites and you'll see what I'm pushing hard. I follow the money. And it's all revshare baby!

Yeah I get all that. Robbie, I shook your hand in San Francisco. I met your lovely wife. You don't need to sell me. It is just a train of thought.

but y'all know business sucks. When I first did this, it was raining money. Huge amounts of cash. Now.....its business. Just like the real world. It takes acumen. Skill. And a large investment of capital. The good times are over, not the profits.

I dunno, I know people doing 40+ joins a day to single sponsors, have plenty of affiliates doing very well.

It is only the first day of the month. Much too early to tell.

OK, who are they?