The Love Of Cheesy Horror Movies - GoFuckYourself.com

SykkBoy · 11-09-2002, 01:06 PM

People often wonder about people like me who live for bad movies....terrible acting, excessive gore, weak effects, sometimes shot on a home camcorder....

I wrote a three part article on it for Setgo, but people still ask me about this affinity I have for blood, babes, breasts, rubber monsters, bad toupes, 30 year old actors playing teens and killer mutant vegetables...

Well, there is a horror discussion board that is dedicated to horror movies and an amazing post that refuses to die, that captures the essense of what it is to love a truly bad movie (I'm talking Zombie Mutant Flesh Eaters bad and not Steel Magnolias sucks a goat bad)

This thread illustrates one man's insane fondness for a piece of celluloid toilet paper known as "Bloody Murder" The cover contains a man wearing a mechanics suit and hockey mask and is brandishing a chainsaw...bad ripoff or fun cheesy entertainment? You decide. The thread is mammoth but you will truly have a peak into the mind of those of us who say "Fuck Stephen Speilberg, bring us Fred Olen Ray, Herschell Gordon Lewis or Jim Wynorski!"

Fletch XXX · 11-09-2002, 01:27 PM

IM wearing a 'Night of the living dead' shirt today.

;)

LikeaVirgin · 11-09-2002, 01:52 PM

"Summer Camp Nightmare"

Voodoo · 11-09-2002, 01:56 PM

Best "B" Flick!

KRL · 11-09-2002, 01:58 PM

We did some 900 lines where kids could call in to listen to scary monsters, people screaming and stuff. We made a real cheezy 50's style black and white commercial for it which ran on MTV in the late '80s. It was funny as shit, and a lot of people actually called.

eru · 11-09-2002, 02:24 PM

Is Fangoria still out?

Voodoo · 11-09-2002, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by eru
Is Fangoria still out?

http://www.fangoria.com/

Mutt · 11-09-2002, 02:40 PM

For me to enjoy a really bad shlock movie I have to have the feeling that everybody involved was aiming for much more, that they took the film as seriously as Francis Ford Coppola took Apocalypse now. That's what makes it good to me. I don't want the director to be in on the joke.

That's why that Frankenhooker movie doesn't look like I'd like it. It looks like it's an intentionally bad movie. Samuel Arkoff made movies like that, he was just a smart businessman who found a formula to make a lot of money. He never had any pretensions that he was making art.

Voodoo · 11-09-2002, 02:42 PM

Frankenhooker has SuperCrack and Exploding Hookers in it! How much better can it get?

11-09-2002, 02:44 PM

I'm watching Ghoulies 3: Ghoulies Go To College right now on satellite. It doesn't get much worse than that!

Gotta love it!

SykkBoy · 11-09-2002, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by Voodoo

Best "B" Flick!

Great Flick! I still have the talking video box, but sadly, it doesn't talk anymore...my kids wore it out....it was cool as shit, you pressed the button and it said "Wanna Date?"

Patty Mullins is so hot, I';d do her even with the neck stitches ;)))

eru, Fangoria is still alive and well, but expensive as fuckall....I used to go to all the Fango conventions and am thinking of hitting more. I loved those shows because you could meet people like Sam Raimi, Bruce Campbell, Linnea Quigley, Tom Savini, etc. The best was An Evening With Vincent Price (only about a month before he died). It was great to meet the living legend...I still have pics around here somewhere, but my highlight was meeting Christopher Lee in the elevator and getting to quickly chat.

Rocky · 11-09-2002, 02:48 PM

Squirm
Frogs
Night Of The Living Dead
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Creepshow

actually, anything by George Romero or having Tom Savini on board

i love horror schlock

eru · 11-09-2002, 02:50 PM

I used to get Fangoria back in middle school, but the sticker price was $$$. I went the website and they want $40 for a one-year subscription of 10 issues. That's not that bad -- I think they used to charge more.

Fletch XXX · 11-09-2002, 02:53 PM

Bucket of Blood
Screaming Skull
Wasp Woman Vs Werewolf
Bay of Blood
The Changeling
Angry Red Planet
PLan 9

Thats what I have watched the past few days, well I had them on while I worked anyhow.

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SykkBoy · 11-09-2002, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
For me to enjoy a really bad shlock movie I have to have the feeling that everybody involved was aiming for much more, that they took the film as seriously as Francis Ford Coppola took Apocalypse now. That's what makes it good to me. I don't want the director to be in on the joke.

That's why that Frankenhooker movie doesn't look like I'd like it. It looks like it's an intentionally bad movie. Samuel Arkoff made movies like that, he was just a smart businessman who found a formula to make a lot of money. He never had any pretensions that he was making art.

For the most part, I agree that the good bad movies are those in which the director is seriously creating his masterpiece (or attempting to). But, camp movies (which are intentionally bad) can be fun too, it's just a different mindset when watching.

Some other good bad movies I enjoy that make others cringe are:
Battlefield Earth (one of the few big budget bad movies on my list)
Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers (the casting of Gunnar "Leatherface" Hanson as the leader of the chainsaw cult was pure genius.)
Anything Troma
Anything Fred Olen Ray
Anything Jim Wynorski (the only man to have a shower scene in every movie he has ever made)
Anything Herschell Gordon Lewis (ok, Gruesome Twosome is hard for even me to watch, but we'll forgive him the minor misstep after such classics as Wizard Of Gore, The Gore Gore Girls (Henny Youngman rules), 2000 Maniacs and the godfather of splatter movies: BloodFeast!)
Anything Frank Hennenlotter (ok, so his only movies are the Basket Case series and Frankenhooker)

Speaking of good bad movies, I finally got to see "The Pool" last night (called "The Swimming Pool" in Europe). For people like me who have a weak spot for slasher movies, this is a ncie throwback to the classic splatter movies, not bloodless drivel like "Scream" and "I Know What You Did...". It has all the standard cliches, bad acting and wooden dialog, but it delviers the goods when the machette starts to swing...let's just say, you'll always be a little apprehensive about sliding down a dark waterslide after watching this bad boy. The location is unique (a HUGE inddor swimming pool), the motive of the killer is very poor, but there are a few scenes that current watered-down Dawson's fucking Creek bullshit American slashers wouldn't touch. The movie is German made and or a directing debut, the movie is technically a good one, with great lighting, effects and tons of the red stuff....run, don't walk to NetFlix.com and put this bad boy at the top of your queue ;)))

Mutt · 11-09-2002, 03:02 PM

my photographer was just in some horror movie playing a vampire killer. director is a well known gonzo porn director, some pornstar chicks have major parts. forgot which ones he told me now. Hmmmm......... gotta go check.

ok, Juliana, Olivia Saint, and Violet Blue are the porn chicks.

this is the URL http://www.crimsondust.com

going to open in some art theater in L.A. next month.

SykkBoy · 11-09-2002, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
my photographer was just in some horror movie playing a vampire killer. director is a well known gonzo porn director, some pornstar chicks have major parts. forgot which ones he told me now. Hmmmm......... gotta go check.

ok, Juliana, Olivia Saint, and Violet Blue are the porn chicks.

this is the URL http://www.crimsondust.com

going to open in some art theater in L.A. next month.

There's a bit of a trend of that lately...porn stars in horror movies...in the 80's, you had a Penthouse Pet (Patty Mullins) in Frankenhooker, you had Madison (going by the name Madison Stone) in Evil Toons and Naked Obsession....

I know Jenna is in the upcoming "SamHain"...

could be a fun trend....

hmm, if porn and cheesy horror merged.....the GFY Sensitivy Police would have a coronary over a couple of us probably trying to cash in on it ;))))

DarkBob · 11-09-2002, 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2

I used to go to all the Fango conventions and am thinking of hitting more.

I went to a Fango con a few years back in NYC. Didn't care too much for it. I haven't missed a Chiller Theatre con in the last five years though. They have them twice a year in New Jersey. The guests aren't as good as they used to be, but I did have a nice conversation with David Friedman at the last one a few weeks ago.

As far as magazines go, Rue Morgue is IMO the best horror mag there is. rue-morgue.com

Mutt · 11-09-2002, 03:36 PM

there are some girls working in porn who have a little talent. He tells me this Violet Blue girl is really good in this movie, what he saw anyway.

It used to be 99% of porn girls were horrible actors but that's because up until the early - mid 90's porn movies were all scripted crap with the god awful dialogue. Like sixth graders acting in a school play, concentrating on remembering their lines more than actually acting.

But with the advent of gonzo porn movies which now are probably 75% of all porn flicks made, girls are basically getting good at improvisational acting. They're playing themselves for the most part but it's still acting and it's much more natural. I think some of them are getting good at it because they get so much experience doing it. I don't think any of them will be in an Academy Award nominate film but some of them might have good 'B' movie careers or even do well in edgy small budget independent films.

11-09-2002, 01:06 PM	#1
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	The Love Of Cheesy Horror Movies People often wonder about people like me who live for bad movies....terrible acting, excessive gore, weak effects, sometimes shot on a home camcorder.... I wrote a three part article on it for Setgo, but people still ask me about this affinity I have for blood, babes, breasts, rubber monsters, bad toupes, 30 year old actors playing teens and killer mutant vegetables... Well, there is a horror discussion board that is dedicated to horror movies and an amazing post that refuses to die, that captures the essense of what it is to love a truly bad movie (I'm talking Zombie Mutant Flesh Eaters bad and not Steel Magnolias sucks a goat bad) This thread illustrates one man's insane fondness for a piece of celluloid toilet paper known as "Bloody Murder" The cover contains a man wearing a mechanics suit and hockey mask and is brandishing a chainsaw...bad ripoff or fun cheesy entertainment? You decide. The thread is mammoth but you will truly have a peak into the mind of those of us who say "Fuck Stephen Speilberg, bring us Fred Olen Ray, Herschell Gordon Lewis or Jim Wynorski!" __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

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KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	We did some 900 lines where kids could call in to listen to scary monsters, people screaming and stuff. We made a real cheezy 50's style black and white commercial for it which ran on MTV in the late '80s. It was funny as shit, and a lot of people actually called.

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	For me to enjoy a really bad shlock movie I have to have the feeling that everybody involved was aiming for much more, that they took the film as seriously as Francis Ford Coppola took Apocalypse now. That's what makes it good to me. I don't want the director to be in on the joke. That's why that Frankenhooker movie doesn't look like I'd like it. It looks like it's an intentionally bad movie. Samuel Arkoff made movies like that, he was just a smart businessman who found a formula to make a lot of money. He never had any pretensions that he was making art. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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Voodoo ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 10,592	Frankenhooker has SuperCrack and Exploding Hookers in it! How much better can it get? __________________ "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

11-09-2002, 02:44 PM	#10
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	I'm watching Ghoulies 3: Ghoulies Go To College right now on satellite. It doesn't get much worse than that! Gotta love it!

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Rocky Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Living Off The Grid Posts: 3,022	Squirm Frogs Night Of The Living Dead Texas Chainsaw Massacre Creepshow actually, anything by George Romero or having Tom Savini on board i love horror schlock __________________ Are you down with Sin?

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eru Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hawai'i Posts: 2,612	I used to get Fangoria back in middle school, but the sticker price was $$$. I went the website and they want $40 for a one-year subscription of 10 issues. That's not that bad -- I think they used to charge more. __________________ <font color="#FFFFFF" size="2" face="Verdana">This thread will self-destruct in 5 seconds.</font><font color="#FFFFFF" face="Verdana"><br> <br> <font size="1">In the meantime, consider hosting with <a href="http://www.choopa.com"><font color="#00FF00">Choopa</font></a> -- The only provider with 9 x 1000mbps Transit Redundancy</font></font>

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Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Bucket of Blood Screaming Skull Wasp Woman Vs Werewolf Bay of Blood The Changeling Angry Red Planet PLan 9 Thats what I have watched the past few days, well I had them on while I worked anyhow. <img src=http://www.69khz.com/images/nightofhtelivingdead.jpg border="1"> __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

11-09-2002, 03:02 PM	#16
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	my photographer was just in some horror movie playing a vampire killer. director is a well known gonzo porn director, some pornstar chicks have major parts. forgot which ones he told me now. Hmmmm......... gotta go check. ok, Juliana, Olivia Saint, and Violet Blue are the porn chicks. this is the URL http://www.crimsondust.com going to open in some art theater in L.A. next month. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

11-09-2002, 03:36 PM	#19
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	there are some girls working in porn who have a little talent. He tells me this Violet Blue girl is really good in this movie, what he saw anyway. It used to be 99% of porn girls were horrible actors but that's because up until the early - mid 90's porn movies were all scripted crap with the god awful dialogue. Like sixth graders acting in a school play, concentrating on remembering their lines more than actually acting. But with the advent of gonzo porn movies which now are probably 75% of all porn flicks made, girls are basically getting good at improvisational acting. They're playing themselves for the most part but it's still acting and it's much more natural. I think some of them are getting good at it because they get so much experience doing it. I don't think any of them will be in an Academy Award nominate film but some of them might have good 'B' movie careers or even do well in edgy small budget independent films. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!