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Kudles 12-01-2008 01:59 PM

Ouch thats gotta hurt

Paully 12-01-2008 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk (Post 15127513)
so affiliates, programmers, and designers arent real people in the business? who is then?

i actually tried promoting maxhardcore.com years ago and i never got any response after contacting them several times. i ended up promoting maxhardcoreporn.com with sweet money and made a ton of money as well as got great service.


Send an email over to [email protected] and we would be happy to set you up.

Sweet hasn't had an update in probably 4 years and is currently using our material illegally.

We have tons of new content and are running a promo right now that will give the customer $1/1 day trials and an option for 14.95 a month if they prepay a year subscription.

Either myself(Paully) or Richard will get back to you.

Robbie 12-01-2008 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 15127701)
on that - there are many stories, about new girls to the industry who were thrown to Max Hardcore and who were in no way ready for the freakshow that he produced - that's how LA pimp/agents work.

"Stories" don't mean shit bro. That's how LA rumours and gossip work. And unless YOU are in LA and shooting porn, then you don't know that the gossip you just spread is true or not.

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 15127701)
and MANY pornographers thought and still do think Paul Little aka Max Hardcore deserved what he got.

I have yet to read or even hear talk of actual producers of adult movies ever saying that. Again, that's just you giving an opinion.

Bottom line is...you did say something that is 100% factual. It's just MOVIES. In a perfect world this wouldn't be an issue. We are adults. If we like something we watch it, if we don't we don't. It's called Freedom of choice.

Even in an imperfect world, role playing and rough sex movies of Max Hardcore would be thought of as no big deal when compared to Hollywood making movies where people are butchered and tortured (like the Saw movies for instance...you know I "heard" that there were some actresses who were thrown into those Saw movies by LA agents before they were "ready" lol )

But in our bizarro world, Max will go to jail for portraying a character in a made up scenario on a movie set. I don't give a damn how you cut it...it isn't right.

SomeCreep 12-01-2008 02:10 PM

daaaaaaaayum

Naughty 12-01-2008 02:13 PM

If i signup, will i get access to all FBI files including the extra bonusses, like CIA, NSA files?

Is there a .99$ 7 day trial?

PostWhore 12-01-2008 02:15 PM

ahhaha fail!

Robbie 12-01-2008 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Naughty (Post 15127834)
If i signup, will i get access to all FBI files including the extra bonusses, like CIA, NSA files?

Is there a .99$ 7 day trial?

No but we will give you a hidden x-sell to the "Porn Producers Wrongfully Prosecuted Pass" That will give you access not only to Max Hardcore, but also to Hustler and Evil Angel. (rebills at $40 after 2 days)

Paully 12-01-2008 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 15127701)
it DISGUSTED TWELVE AMERICAN CITIZENS - it's called a JURY OF YOUR PEERS - and I have no clue why you are living in the United States and don't understand that there are OBSCENITY LAWS, always have been and always will be, and any community where you produce your movies, ship your movies into or display them has the RIGHT to charge you and convict you if they decide what you've produced is OBSCENE - not PORNOGRAPHIC - OBSCENE according to the community standards of THEIR COMMUNITY.

and MANY pornographers thought and still do think Paul Little aka Max Hardcore deserved what he got.

i don't agree with them - I think movies are movies no matter how twisted or obscene they are as long as the participants were consenting adults.

on that - there are many stories, about new girls to the industry who were thrown to Max Hardcore and who were in no way ready for the freakshow that he produced - that's how LA pimp/agents work.

Pay attention Mutt, Max World/Paul Little didn't ship/produce/display any material in the community that he was charged, tried and convicted. BTW obscenity laws have not always been around and if there is any rationality and common sense they will be eventually thrown out.

gooddomains 12-02-2008 10:35 AM

is sweet using licensed content on maxhardcoreporn? I always thought there are no licenses available for the content....

cherrylula 12-02-2008 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15127811)
"Stories" don't mean shit bro. That's how LA rumours and gossip work. And unless YOU are in LA and shooting porn, then you don't know that the gossip you just spread is true or not.

I used to live in the valley and I have personally known girls who went to the hospital after a shoot. Not gossip! I swear.

the new design must convert for shit. :1orglaugh

good luck to his new ventures!

Robbie 12-02-2008 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 15132520)
I used to live in the valley and I have personally known girls who went to the hospital after a shoot. Not gossip! I swear.

I'm sorry, but that sure does sound like hearsay to me. So you used to live near Los Angeles, and you make banners and design work. And that led you to "personally know" some of the models who have worked with Max Hardcore?

I'd have to hear the actual NAME of one of the girls who "went to the hospital after a shoot" Bro, I've seen what happens when somebody makes so much as a wrong move in this biz. Why didn't Luke Ford go crazy "reporting" it? Or why hasn't Mike South made any comment from his sources about girls being hospitalized because of something happening at a Max Hardcore shoot?

Why weren't criminal charges filed by the whore....er, I mean the innocent young lady who had no idea what the baaaadddd Max Hardcore was gonna do to her.

I'm sorry, but I call bullshit. Anybody can post on here and say your exact statement and it holds no weight.

Just post the girls name. What happened to her. What hospital, and the date it happened. Since you "lived in the valley" you should have access to this information.

And hell, there should be some KNOWN people who produce porn backing you up.

Not saying you are lying. Just pointing out that you made a statement that can't be backed up in any way. That is the kind of shit that the govt. uses against us as an industry.

"Well, we have a guy who lived in the valley and personally knew of a girl going to the hospital...GUILTY!"

Paully 12-02-2008 11:48 AM

We have taken models to the doctors, to the dentist, gotten their cars fixed, sent their family money, paid their fines and all kinds of other horrible shit.

In alomst 2000 scenes we have only had about 5 or 6 women complain about anything, and some of those models have tried to work with us even after voicing their issues.

5 or 6 complaints in 2000 scenes and over 15 years of production isn't such a bad track record considering the industry we are in and the issues we come across.

No model has ever had to go to the hospital after shooting for us, ever.

V_RocKs 12-02-2008 12:00 PM

The truth was that many of the girls didn't sign on to get fucked up like they were and didn't know his reputation for porn. They felt pressured to do certain scenes and so they went after him with what ever they could.

Robbie 12-02-2008 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TJSDAD (Post 15133037)
We have taken models to the doctors, to the dentist, gotten their cars fixed, sent their family money, paid their fines and all kinds of other horrible shit

A lot of the people on here can't distinguish the line between real and fantasy. They don't know you guys or know anything about the business of creating porn or any form of entertainment. They think Max Hardcore is a real person. I guess they believe that the actor who played Freddy Krueger is really Freddy Krueger. Or that the actors on the t.v. show Heroes really have super powers.

They don't even realize that when the cameras go off Max Hardcore is "off" and so are the women in the scenes. Nobody is going to the hospital, or at least nobody has ever reported such a thing that I know of. And I've even read people blogging how Max Hardcore makes them "offers they can't refuse" if they don't "play nice" WTF! LOL!

I've met Paul a couple of times. He's about 5 foot 5 and a very soft spoken nice guy in real life. Don't people realize that all the girls that shoot porn have boyfriends and husbands? If the camera went off and Paul Little tried to keep pretending he was bad ass Max Hardcore and threatened someone...he would have ended up with his ass beaten a long time ago.

Newflash: On Monday Night Raw (WWE Wrestling) this last Monday on LIVE television, I watched Chris Jericho, Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes, and Manuu beat the crap out of John Cena and left him lying on the concrete with his arm jerking from apparent nerve and spinal damage! OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!! I'm sure the govt. will step in and have Jericho and his group of thugs arrested and convicted right away!

Of course, in reality Jericho and Cena were at the hotel bar an hour later drinking together and planning their next match.

Folks, IT'S NOT REAL, IT'S A MOVIE AND THE SWEET LITTLE GIRLS IN THE MOVIE ARE NOT SWEET LITTLE GIRLS, THEY ARE WHORES AND STRIPPERS THAT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

(note: I love whores and strippers and use those terms with the utmost respect and admiration)

Robbie 12-02-2008 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 15133087)
The truth was that many of the girls didn't sign on to get fucked up like they were and didn't know his reputation for porn. They felt pressured to do certain scenes and so they went after him with what ever they could.

More statements from people who don't know.

CarlosTheGaucho 12-02-2008 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 15125248)
that was part of the suit he had to forfit the domains...

he is up and running at maxhardcoretv.com I spoke with him the other day...

pretty shitty how many other pornographers on here bashed him.. he is one of us a pornographer...

shitty real shitty...

I really don't endorse the stuff he produces, I would even agree that it's really appealing to perverted and sick individuals, it's far from fetish because what he produces is pure abuse and humilation, and it's not about sexual practices, I didn't want to see another dangerous legal precedent emerging though

Robbie 12-02-2008 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 15133156)
I really don't endorse the stuff he produces, I even agree that it's really appealing to perverted and sick individuals, i can't see anyone in their right mind being able to jack off to it, you can't be normal and it's far from fetish because what he produces is abuse and humilation, I only didn't want to see another dangerous legal precedent emerging

Agreed, we don't need the govt. deciding anything else for us. If you don't like it don't watch it.

But the thing is, apparently a LOT of people not only like it....but DO it in their own sex lives. I don't understand it, but I'm at a point in life that I'm not gonna just automatically bash the things I don't understand.

Hell, I don't understand those sites where girls kick guys in the balls as hard as they can...and yet I KNOW that shit happens in real life because the strippers I have known through the years have told me that they have guys that want to go into a vip room and just have them kick them in the balls and step on their balls with high heels.

There is no limit to what the human mind and sexuality can conjure up that turns people on. Just because we don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't work for a lot of people.

mona 12-02-2008 12:25 PM

EuroRevenue Enters Into Partnership with Max World Inc.? Home of Legendary Adult Superstar Max HardcoreŽ

The new EuroRevenue pay site, called HardcoreMax.com?, is scheduled for launch in several months, after completion of the enormous task of digitalizing and organizing Max?s extensive archive of video masters and photography. The principles of both companies couldn?t be happier.

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Paully 12-02-2008 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 15133087)
The truth was that many of the girls didn't sign on to get fucked up like they were and didn't know his reputation for porn. They felt pressured to do certain scenes and so they went after him with what ever they could.

The truth is you don't know what the fuck your talking about. There is no way in hell we would waste our time or trick some girl into working for us, kidnap, torture and then rape her and sell it on the open market for a profit. WTF???

What a fucking retarded statement.

AaliyahLove 12-02-2008 03:18 PM

I thought that none of the actresses have come forward to press charges against him despite all of the controversy.. Whether you like what he does or not, consenting adults have the right to do what they fucking please with each other. Those girls were all of age and signed model releases. Did they feel pressured to do things they didn't want to do on set? I don't know a model that hasn't. But they could of walked away at anytime.
I really can't believe the number of people in this industry saying he deserves what he gets. Whats to stop a group of people deciding that YOUR website is suddenly offensive.. or mine?!
In my mind this is a free speech issue and not an abuse issue.

Robbie 12-02-2008 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AaliyahLove (Post 15134091)
I thought that none of the actresses have come forward to press charges against him despite all of the controversy.. Whether you like what he does or not, consenting adults have the right to do what they fucking please with each other. Those girls were all of age and signed model releases. Did they feel pressured to do things they didn't want to do on set? I don't know a model that hasn't. But they could of walked away at anytime.
I really can't believe the number of people in this industry saying he deserves what he gets. Whats to stop a group of people deciding that YOUR website is suddenly offensive.. or mine?!
In my mind this is a free speech issue and not an abuse issue.

You are 100% correct. As I said earlier...the people who have made the attacks against him from "our industry" are not the people who actually are in the porn business. They are the people who don't create things that are making those statements. Affiliate salesmen, graphics folks, designers, etc. They make knee jerk comments about what THEY personally like or don't like that have nothing to do with reality.

I'm with you. It's all about freedom. And right now, we don't have much anymore.

Robbie 12-02-2008 03:35 PM

Maybe Max should have put up a disclaimer like Hollywood does in a mainstream movie. You know the "No animals were actually harmed in the making of this movie"

His could say: "No whores were actually harmed in the making of this movie AND they cashed the check too"

Paully 12-02-2008 04:00 PM

We put a disclaimer on the beginning of each Max Hardcore movie. Some people just can't wrap their heads around the idea that our movies are pure fiction.



https://youtube.com/watch?v=8VBrdum3dmM

I couldn't figure out how to embed it, but right there is one version of the disclaimer.

DirtyDanza 12-02-2008 04:04 PM

I wanna say I hope I am in shape like robbie when I am 47

Robbie 12-02-2008 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 15134257)
I wanna say I hope I am in shape like robbie when I am 47

Brother age is just a number. The earth circled the sun 47 times that's all :)

SiMpLe 12-02-2008 04:13 PM

wtf is it trying to install - some dll

Paully 12-02-2008 04:25 PM

say what? it's a youtube clip, just some plain old flash

kahell 12-02-2008 05:55 PM

the feds should spy on convents and churches, there are lots of pedophile in there

AaliyahLove 12-02-2008 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kahell (Post 15134678)
the feds should spy on convents and churches, there are lots of pedophile in there

wurdddd.. Robbie I used a couple of quotes from you on this thread to OWN THE SHIT outta some woman hating douchabag on anthr board.. hope u don't mind. (I put "my friend Robbie says.." infront of it)
email me if you want to see the thread. Now I finally understand all of the fights and drama on this board, this guy got me fucking HEATED grrrr..



FREE MAX ;)

cherrylula 12-02-2008 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15132778)
I'm sorry, but that sure does sound like hearsay to me. So you used to live near Los Angeles, and you make banners and design work. And that led you to "personally know" some of the models who have worked with Max Hardcore?

I was an assistant manager at a live sex porn studio in Chatsworth and used to schedule performers. No, I am not going to drop her name here and her personal info!

All I did was run around with strippers and porn stars for like 2-3 years in my early twenties.

I used to think the chicks were dumbasses and signed the form, knew what they were getting into. But really so many pornstars have told me the same thing, in the circle of porners over there in So Cal. Believe me, they like the money for the shoots, but Max has a reputation for going a little far.

and now I'm a webmaster, my partner is the designer in my sig. :)

cherrylula 12-02-2008 06:25 PM

let me add, honestly after these chicks shoot with him and if they are traumatized and/or hurting, do you really think they want to go to the police and report it? They're fucking porn whores and you think a cop would be eager to defend them? when they signed the forms and all?

sure, mister police guy is going to rush to her side and defend a porn whore. Especially when the chick probably just wants to take her check and go out and get fucked up and maybe do some good drugs.

honestly I could care less, but I do stick to the fact that all I've heard is bad things about that guy. Its his right to do as he wishes with his business, but as others said in this thread he pushes the limits quite a bit.

as for my credibility? toss it out the window if you like, I am not going to attempt to prove my or other's personal info and past on here, but I figured I'd post in here regardless.

I worked on plenty of porn shoots back in the day, have seen live orgies, shemales, grandma fucking, gay sex, gangbangs... and I could go on. I am super duper desensitized to pornography. Now I just sell it online, because I got far away from the epicenter of porn and the drama/bullshit that comes with it. :)

cherrylula 12-02-2008 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15134142)
You are 100% correct. As I said earlier...the people who have made the attacks against him from "our industry" are not the people who actually are in the porn business. They are the people who don't create things that are making those statements. Affiliate salesmen, graphics folks, designers, etc. They make knee jerk comments about what THEY personally like or don't like that have nothing to do with reality.

I'm with you. It's all about freedom. And right now, we don't have much anymore.

and hey I do agree with you. FREEDOM. :)

Robbie 12-02-2008 06:55 PM

That's cool cherrylula. There's just too many people on this forum that make statements without backing it up. Your experience justifies you to have an opinion about it. :)

You and I both know that some women live for drama. God knows the constant drama of the strip clubs can drive you insane. I don't know if some of those girls went back to the club and then after a scene was released that featured them drinking piss and/or getting gagged on cock and vomiting (which by the way there are a LOT of websites that do that other than Max) well...maybe they were embarrassed.

I'm sure that when the other girls at the club told all their moneymen customers that their favorite dancer drank piss on film that would suck for the girl. And then I CAN imagine them making excuses that could turn into rumor and gossip.

"Oh, I didn't know what Max Hardcore was going to do to me. And I was too frightened of him to make him stop...I would NEVER drink piss"

heh-heh

I know everybodies experiences are different. But my experience...having been married to 3 different feature dancers from 1982 to 2000 told me that even the dumbest stripper is a predator. At least the good ones are. They hustle and steal. They work guys for money and know how to get it and they aren't a bit naive about much of anything. Hell...that's why I love strippers and whores so much lol

My current wife is the first and only one that wasn't a stripper. And when I introduced her to Max by the pool at XBiz in Vegas this summer...she knew exactly what the deal is with his gonzo shoots. And she doesn't even surf porn. I jokingly said to her after we walked away: "Hey baby, you want to shoot a scene with Max Hardcore?"

And even though she hasn't paid any attention to this trial and/or had any idea who he was...she immediately said: "I don't think so! With a name like that he probably does crazy shit"

So let's send out a public service message to everyone:

Guys, if your woman tells you she wants you to go on the Jerry Springer Show because she has a "surprise" she wants to tell you about ... DO NOT GO

And girls, if you don't like rough sex and watersports, and a guy named "Max Hardcore" asks you to come over and shoot a gonzo scene....DO NOT GO

lol


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