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Old 11-08-2002, 06:51 PM   #1
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Ethics Question. Stunt Cock Has Herpies.

Shooting content and using a stunt dick who has genital herpies for blow job movies.

Is this unethical?

Can we run into legal problems?

As a former person in the field of Public Health myself, Id say yes there is a problem.

But the other part of me who told that field to fuck off when i quit the industry for porn says ahhhh fuck it. Just Do It!

Someone Guide me.

Its not contagious unless he has an outbreak is the normal train of thought.. But this is only true 90% of the time.

What are the legal costs here? Herpies wont kill ya.

Do we have to tell the models?
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Old 11-08-2002, 06:52 PM   #2
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On the other hand, I was thinking of letting the models know Dank has herpies and using this niche to my advantage.

herpieharry.com

Sounds catchy!

Where the gal knows Harry (dank) has herpies.
And the whole gimick of the site isDank spreading herpies to the public!

Catchy?
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Old 11-08-2002, 06:55 PM   #3
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This is another boneprone joke, right?
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It shouldn't be too hard to find a model with herpes too? I think its like 9/10 porn stars have it anyway?

They have dating services for those types of people too. Very discreet.
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But seriously, is there a problem if I use a stunt dick on a regular basis on the models, if i knowingly know he has herpies?
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http://www.herpes-date.com/

aff better get in on this soon... its gonna be huge!
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He wont be fucking them, just Blow Jobs and facials.

Nothing too serious.

This is not a joke.
Im going to be shooting some content, and dank is my shoe in for the stunt cock. (he works for free and i cant beat it)

what type of trouble can i get in?
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im not intrested in dating people with herpie cherry!
Im asking if legally can I get away with shooting content knowing that one of the actors has a STD.
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Old 11-08-2002, 06:59 PM   #10
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But seriously, is there a problem if I use a stunt dick on a regular basis on the models, if i knowingly know he has herpies?
nnooooo... I dont se the problem.... Its not like he got HIV or something.. does he?
Dont be such a pussy, you said it yourself, its 90% safe..
I trust the Doctor-4-finger
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I think if there are no open sores then its not contagious. Maybe.
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Yeah, 90% is good huh?

Id bet on those odds anyday!

Thanks!
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but please make sure its not my sister, mother or brother he is shooting with...
Isent there a thing like "calculated risk assesment" in porn?
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im not intrested in dating people with herpie cherry!
Im asking if legally can I get away with shooting content knowing that one of the actors has a STD.
Probably not.

http://aim-med.org/STDtable.html
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Old 11-08-2002, 07:03 PM   #15
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However in College I was studying the disease, and I was reading one case study where the girl went blind after getting herpie infected semen in her eye?

Maybe it was the puss from the lesion in her eye.
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Actually why not just ask the girl? She might not care about oral herpes, or already have them! Seriously. Talent can be like that sometimes.
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I know.....
Ill put it in the model release with the other fine print that the actor has herpies, but is in a non outbreak state at the day of the shoot. But I will also document that there is still an assesed risk of aquiring the disease, but hearby wave any and all rights by signing the consent form.


The bitches never read those things anyhow!

That way my ass is legally covered.
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Old 11-08-2002, 07:51 PM   #18
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mmm.... I woudl say straight out tell the models...
I remember a story not to long ago that a person infected with HIV was sueing his ex-partner for knowing that he had HIV but did not inform him.... and like others are saying, hell they probably have herpes to...

Unlike love, Herpes last forever...
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Hmm...

I guess folks in this industry really do have about the level of ethics that mainstream media and right wing oganizations credit us with?

It's your call, but I say disclose it to the models, hell, maybe even put out word that you are seeking a model with herpies to model with a guy who has it. After all, not only are there models with it, there are probably women who would make great models who have never tried because they have herpies... might even find yourself some cute new talent as well as not worrying about being sued when some chick finally reads her fine print.

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This whole thread is disgusting. Not only is it disgusting, but borderline illegal. Knowingly giving somebody a STD is a criminal offense in most states.
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I agree with LunaC

you seem to say that only you and dank knows... I think model should know and agree for you to do it without any legal issues.
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I'm hoping this is just a stupid joke, a really stupid joke.
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Old 11-08-2002, 08:58 PM   #23
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Normally I think boneprone is kinda funny. I don't think he's joking about this.

No, dumbass, you'd better tell them outright. BEFORE the shoot. What a stupid question.
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definitely tell them upfront. this is the sort of shit that ends up overturning laws (if it goes that far in court, which it probably could), or just plain fucking ya.
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If you had any shred of decency you'd be sure to inform the model. If she contracts it from your shoot without being completely aware of the risks that you are aware of, then you cast another black eye on this industry and I hope she sues you for every little cent that you have!
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Me too. I can hardly believe you're serious about even wondering about it for a second. If it's not a joke, then, boneprone my man, you are just a fucking scumbag.

Why are so many people in this industry so short-sighted? TGP gallery-makers are stupid fucks with no foresight, sure, but this?

This is a new low.

If you're serious, then I hope you catch it yourself because you deserve it. If you're joking, ha ha ha, now you've got a laugh. Go do something that's really funny. (I mean, I've always admired your stupid pranks here... they're usually funny as hell.)
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In my opinion I really think thats just not right. Let the girls know and they can decide what they want to do. Who the hell are you to decide whether or not if they get it???
Okay I can understand this guy does it for free...do you not see why???
Maybe because NOBODY wants to fuck him!!!!!
That sould be a clue right there.

Any girl who would blow or even have sex with someone who has herpes is kinda sick in my mind...male or female.


Even if you can only catch it when he has an outbreak ,would anyone want to even chance it?

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i know that in canada, having an STD and not informing your partner is illegal (criminal intent to harm or something like that) and i'm sure there are similar laws in the states, as uncivilized as you guys are
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ok, lets dilute this situation a bit.

Lets change the STD from Herpies to Crabs.

Do I still inform the model?

And why do I have to verbally tell her?
Why cant i slip it into the model agreement contract that I know the stupid bitch wont read anyhow??
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I have been sitting here trying to think of some sort of smart ass reply. There are only 2 problems with me doing that.

1: I am WAY fucking drunk and remember....what was I saying?

2: I know this is a real issue and not some joke. While we were up in Vancouver B.C. Dank kept dragging us into different pharmacies and asking about getting herpies medication with no perscription.

Anyway...I hope that Dank and Bone decided to do the right thing. Dank...Just cause your brother did not disclose it to you does not mean that you have to hide it from others as well.
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ok, lets dilute this situation a bit.

Lets change the STD from Herpies to Crabs.

Do I still inform the model?

And why do I have to verbally tell her?
Why cant i slip it into the model agreement contract that I know the stupid bitch wont read anyhow??
Sounds fair to me.
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Seriously...

I have another stunt dick with a harsh case of chronic crabs.

Am I legally and ethically obligated to tell the model about this STD?
Do these rules you all speak of apply to all STDs?

And if so which STDs?

I just dont see many models finishing the act when I tell them last minute about my staff's STDs.
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1. How much will you make of this shoot? A few bucks and change, probably.

2. How much will it cost to pay the lawyer in case you get sued? More than you made off the shoot.

3. Can threads like this be evidence in a lawsuit? Yep.

4. Man, knowingly exposing people to STDs is about as fucked up as it gets without killing people. Your boy there should probably be out of commission--or only work with Herpes girls.

5. Imagine it was your sister or wife involved. You'd give a shit right? Herpes is forever man. You'll spend this dough in a couple of weeks--if a model contracts it she'll have it 30 years from now.

6. It's your reputation and your conscience. If all you're worried about is the legal aspects, call a lawyer.
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Seriously...

I have another stunt dick with a harsh case of chronic crabs.

Am I legally and ethically obligated to tell the model about this STD?
Do thers rules apply to all STDs?

And if so which STDs?

I just dont see many models finishing the act when I tell them last minute about my staff's STDs.
I have a solution.....


Pretend to be French and not speak any English. Learn how to repeatedly tell her in French and video tape you doing so. Not your fault she does not know the language. You will have documented proof that she was repeatedly informed.
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Funkito,
Dude, do you have any idea who I am?
Im Boneprone.

Leader of the Boneprone Family.

You really think some whore I shoot is gunna open her trap against me?

Ill fucking burry her. And her Jew Attorney.

Im asking you as an "ETHICS" question.
Is it right or aint no thang?

Dont try and scare me with legal shit. That isnt a problem.
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......If all you're worried about is the legal aspects, call a lawyer.
How entertaining would that be? I think boneprone is handling this very well. Since he may be tried by a jury of his peers...He is first consulting with a jury of his peers.
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Im just worrying if I should loose any sleep at night knowing some of my actors have STDs.

FYI, none of them are FATAL, so you can chill..

I aint no killer.
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Funkito,
Dude, do you have any idea who I am?
Im Boneprone.

Leader of the Boneprone Family.

You really think some whore I shoot is gunna open her trap against me?

Ill fucking burry her. And her Jew Attorney.

Im asking you as an "ETHICS" question.
Is it right or aint no thang?

Dont try and scare me with legal shit. That isnt a problem.
No shit...How is it that some fuckers still do not understand The Family?

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Exactly!!!
If you cant trust your peers who can you trust?
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I assume this is a joke, but if it's not you're an asshole. Risking giving girls herpes is a complete prick move man, they'll have that shit forever.

I say this knowing that you're not serious, of coarse.
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If you cant trust your peers who can you trust?
Jesus?
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That was in your original post BP. I ain't trying to scare anybody. You used to work in public health--I used to work in a law office. Lawsuits do happen, especially if there's someone with assets involved. Frivolous ones still cost money and are a headache. But, whatever. 1 percent chance. I wouldn't worry about that too much either really.

The ethical question is a real one. It does come down to one's own conscience which is different from person to person. For herpes (AKA the Happies), I would be straight with the model. How did Dank get it in the first place? From some bitch who probably knew but didn't speak up. The transmission chance is probably low...I dunno. Smoke a bowl and say "fuck it". Sure, but you're posting here for a reason. It doesn't just sound like curiousity. I mean it seems like you're posting about this problem because something about it bothers you. I'd say take that seriously. That's all I'm saying. Since you worked in public health you know what a disease vector is.

Obviously each disease would be a different case. Crabs is so fucking common that it is probably not even worth bringing up.
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--I used to work in a law office. Lawsuits do happen, especially if there's someone with assets involved.
Hey bro...Can one person sue another person cause the other person was dumb enough to fall for some stupid shit?

Just curious cuase if so.....The family is abut to come into a shitload of money.
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dude, this aint no joke!!

I really do have crabs, and Dank really does have herpies.
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Old 11-09-2002, 02:16 AM   #47
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Crabs are tasty. There's this chinese restaurant in china town that has the best crab & black bean sauce.
It's yummy in my tummy.
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Old 11-09-2002, 02:19 AM   #48
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Crabs are tasty. There's this chinese restaurant in china town that has the best crab & black bean sauce.
It's yummy in my tummy.
If a bear shit's in the woods....Where the fuck does he get Chinese food?
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Old 11-09-2002, 02:19 AM   #49
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Old 11-09-2002, 02:19 AM   #50
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I don't know which girls you're talking about but I'm a girl in the biz and neither me or my partner has ever had an STD.
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