Your stuff is gorgeous, as usual, but WHY did you disable the BACK button? (Actually, I run into this quite a bit and don't understand the design philosophy behind it most of the time. If somebody wants to leave a page, why piss them off?)

Anyway, as a result, you made it more difficult to see the other theme.

sorry.... I don't like what mozilla does to the framework, so no.


yeah, I still got a little code to clean up here and there.... but for the most part, it's pretty tight. The frames are crucial to the overall construction of the site.... that's just the way it is. I dodged using frames for several years because of browser non-compliance and general issues people have with them, but hey.... it's 2002 folks... time to get with the program. ;-)

as far as the SEs go, Redshoe's right.... I don't rely on the SEs.... however, even as I say this, my primary index page is set up the way I prefer for the SEs, and I don't want anything else in the site indexed, and the remainder of the site is set up for that purpose as well.


client work is done with minimal standard inline style code, if any at all. They are delivered fully compliant with all browsers. What they do after that is up to them. The rules I've imposed on my site are for my purposes only.... I don't include this stuff in client work.

I didn't disable the back button.... it only functions that way. What's actually happeneing is you're going to a blank loader page that scans your browser, and then sends you to the theme. (providing you're using IE).... if someone wants to leave the site, any bookmark or typed address will do the job as usual.
Selecting another theme is done easily on each interface with the 'Environment Selector' at the bottom section of the theme. ;-)

I love the "TROPICAL" oh and the drinks.....MMMMmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmm


swwweeeeeeettttt:thumbsup

Dude...

Don't go getting a big(ger) head or anything, but ... You're pretty fucking good.

Very nice :thumbsup

You are a god

Put that beside some of the sites I have done and mine still look like shit lol
great work!


Brian

Uhm, gecko (mozilla/netscape/etc) should render frames correctly (if you do the frames accordning to the standard). Did you try using this as doctype?
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heh, 2002? Frames are 199x, CSS positioning is 2002 ;). Check out <a href="http://www.demonsgate.org/new2/resource_rules.php">this link</a> for a simple example. No frames, no tables. Pretty neat stuff this CSS, should work fine with IE 4.0+ and the new netscape/mozilla built on gecko.

Ok, how do you feel about the bookmarkingproblem? maybe no biggie ...

You were asking about other themes right? Jesus, a ton of fuckers are just telling you what you already know--you're a good designer.

Themes:

1. Sci-FI. Design studio of Mars. Red planet. Green men.

2. Snow scene with animated fireplace and hot-bitch snow vixens

3. Jail. Never underestimate the selling power of prison. Animated homo rapes in prison blues. This will sell and impress your non-porn clients.

4. Inside the human body. Different organs. Animated white blood cells. You could even do some disease angles. Medical market is actually good money for illustrators.

5. Hawaiian pot farm. Fields of green. Hot rasta bitches smokin spliff.

6. Samurai Japan battlefield. Kurosawa tribute. Peasant mutilation.

7. Planet of Endor. Forest scenes. Ewok fellatio.

8. Volcano explosion. You live in Hawaii. Just take a hike with your digital cam.

9. Back of police car. Flashing red and blue--audio effect of siren and chaffing handcuffs. Animated piggies.

Alright, that's enough of the good ideas...you can thank me later.


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they don't.... mozilla seems to render them 1 or 2 pixels off.... Netscape always used to do that too... not sure if it still does... haven't had Netscrape on a system in years. However..... the rest of the framework seems to render in tact.... and I know how I can correct the 1 pixel issue to my satisfaction.... so, I probably will.

yeah.. frames do kinda suck... I dig the css positioning! sweet and short code... me likey.... ;-)
I'll hafta try that and see how it works out... the reason I'm using the frames is to postion dead screen center regardless of resolution or monitor size, but hey,... if I can do that with css, I'll dump the frames in a second.

Got some questions though....
1. Why doesn't Mozilla run certain javascript and other javascript it does? Isn't it either on or off? What gives with that?
2. Even if I eliminate the outer frames, I'm still gonna need to use i-framing for a large chunk of stuff.... (that's not really a question I guess.)

thanks for the example link on the css though bro... I'm raping it with my eyes now.... I'll let ya know how it turns out for me.

extreme:

well, the css looks pretty similar to the css I already have.... only one minor difference.. and that was the lack of the fixed bg 50/50 no repeat... which is cool because that also happens to be the javascript issue I was having with Mozilla... so that's fixed...

however.... what I didn't find was any kind of dynamic positioning to maintain center screen using css. Might be cuz I'm blind and can't see it.... or, might be cuz it doesn't exist.

either way.. once I remove the needless javascript for the fixed internal theme bg, clean up my css, and fix the one pixel offset issue, I'll probably remove the browser blocks.... looks like everything else is cool....

by the way, I was using css on every page except the main, because I wanted some specific stuff on the main pages and was basically just too damn lazy to make a new section in the file... lol

but since it's been pointed out... I guess now I will... :winkwink:

(and I admit.... my css files were a little sloppy.... but I cleaned 'em up) :glugglug

The answer to 1) is probably that its just not mozillacompliant JScode. Im far from beeing a JSexpert but I know microsoft just loves to expand/modify the standards. If a snippet of JScode doesn't run in moz its probably just because it was coded for IE (using extra IE features).

Check out <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/js/scripting/">this link</a> for some links to diff. JSresources. The first link, <a href="http://developer.netscape.com/docs/manuals/communicator/jsref/contents.htm">(netscapes JS reference),</a> is prob. the one you want to check out to get certain JScode working in moz/netscape.

nah, it's cool... it was ver 1.2 javascript.... but I don;t need it anymore.... I can use that line in the body section of the css file to do what I needed it to... I honestly didn't know I could do that in the css file.... so I learned something today.. :)

but on the dynamic positioning thing.. I didn;t see anything like that in there.... only thing was fixing the bg.... now, I could probly do it with dhtml and save using all the framework, but.... unless that comes easy to me in a giftwrapped box, I'll probly just stick with the frames for now.... got too much other stuff to do, and the frames do work.... (for now anyway)

but I'm uploading the cleaned up css and files now.... about 20 minutes I'll kill the browser block and you guys can ass rape me on how jacked it all looks in opera and mozilla.... lol :glugglug

dunno, never tried to solve that particular problem actually. I usually check out <a href="http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/css/">htmlhelp.com's CSS Guide</a> when I have CSSproblems. Maybe the sollution lies there within :].

Hmm, couldn't the "center positioning" problem just be solved with good old tables?

Seems to work in IE6/Moz 1.2 (the 2 browsers I got installed here). Hm, the PHPQuote thingie in phpbb obviously isn't meant for dark backgrounds ;).

works in IE, but Mozilla and some others don't display it right... they like to push everything to the top...

another thing that pisses me off about Mozilla is it completely ignores the margins I set... why I have no idea...

okay.... should be viewable with Mozilla and the others now....
I still gotta fix a little css here, but nothing major... for the most part it's all better....

there's still frames.... but less of them. :winkwink:

lol.... I've been shamed into compliance.... heh.... :helpme

It sucks there are no pedes

DynaMite :321GFY

this thread has been very informative. Now I see how much work I really have left on my sites.

Amp, I like the themes. :) and thumbs up on ecxellent acceptance of constructive criticism... alot of people would do well just to learn from that. kudos. :)

hey, that's the best kind.... it makes me better... :winkwink:

took me all night, but I think I'm finally 100% Mozilla compliant now... hehe... :glugglug

Unseen:

with the mods I made tonight from the feedback here, the back button issue is gone now too... wasn't really a real back button manipulation, but definately a side effect.... anyway, it's fixed.

thanks everyone for all the input. Anything that makes me better is always good stuff. :)

hehe, I'll be tackling mine as soon as my main puter is done defragmenting. :)

turbo

hehe.... have fun... it's been quite the ordeal over here with this thing.... :glugglug

I am not a designer but can say that's a fucking piece of art.You should have a street named amputate your head...
just two things - watrefalls animate would be great and second I haven't found my link in content providers :mad:

:thumbsup

eru:

you're right..... it's all good in Opera too. I just downloaded it to check. Looked like some kinda issue at the bottom for a minute, but when I reloaded it, everything was groovy.


but I'm still not gonna use Opera as my browser.... hehehe..... :glugglug

I take that back.... I just found an issue with opera.

never mind..... easy fix.

Fuck that's sweet shit Amp, real smoov

One question though: How do you do that tropical theme? I could understand how you made the studio design but all the pictures in the tropical theme, I don't get that. Do you have a cartoonist at work or...?

Undutchable:

some of it was from a new 3D rendering program (well, new to me that is) I've been playing around with here... hope to be able to do even more with it as I learn how to use it, but gawd those programs can be overly complex....

and alot of it is a combo of the same stuff I do with anything else... image libraries, manipulation, erasing, chopping, blending, and basically beating on it with a hammer... :winkwink: