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extreme 11-09-2002 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

Got some questions though....
1. Why doesn't Mozilla run certain javascript and other javascript it does? Isn't it either on or off? What gives with that?
2. Even if I eliminate the outer frames, I'm still gonna need to use i-framing for a large chunk of stuff.... (that's not really a question I guess.)

The answer to 1) is probably that its just not mozillacompliant JScode. Im far from beeing a JSexpert but I know microsoft just loves to expand/modify the standards. If a snippet of JScode doesn't run in moz its probably just because it was coded for IE (using extra IE features).

Check out <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/js/scripting/">this link</a> for some links to diff. JSresources. The first link, <a href="http://developer.netscape.com/docs/manuals/communicator/jsref/contents.htm">(netscapes JS reference),</a> is prob. the one you want to check out to get certain JScode working in moz/netscape.

Amputate Your Head 11-09-2002 03:07 AM

nah, it's cool... it was ver 1.2 javascript.... but I don;t need it anymore.... I can use that line in the body section of the css file to do what I needed it to... I honestly didn't know I could do that in the css file.... so I learned something today.. :)

but on the dynamic positioning thing.. I didn;t see anything like that in there.... only thing was fixing the bg.... now, I could probly do it with dhtml and save using all the framework, but.... unless that comes easy to me in a giftwrapped box, I'll probly just stick with the frames for now.... got too much other stuff to do, and the frames do work.... (for now anyway)

but I'm uploading the cleaned up css and files now.... about 20 minutes I'll kill the browser block and you guys can ass rape me on how jacked it all looks in opera and mozilla.... lol :glugglug

extreme 11-09-2002 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

however.... what I didn't find was any kind of dynamic positioning to maintain center screen using css. Might be cuz I'm blind and can't see it.... or, might be cuz it doesn't exist.

dunno, never tried to solve that particular problem actually. I usually check out <a href="http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/css/">htmlhelp.com's CSS Guide</a> when I have CSSproblems. Maybe the sollution lies there within :].

extreme 11-09-2002 03:29 AM

Hmm, couldn't the "center positioning" problem just be solved with good old tables?

PHP Code:

<table width="100%" height="100%">
<
tr valign=center><td align=center>
<
table width=200 height=200 bgcolor="#444444">
<
tr><td>
THE_CODE_GOES_HERE
</td></tr>
</
table>
</
td></tr></table

Seems to work in IE6/Moz 1.2 (the 2 browsers I got installed here). Hm, the PHPQuote thingie in phpbb obviously isn't meant for dark backgrounds ;).

Amputate Your Head 11-09-2002 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by extreme
Hmm, couldn't the "center positioning" problem just be solved with good old tables?

PHP Code:

<table width="100%" height="100%">
<
tr valign=center><td align=center>
<
table width=200 height=200 bgcolor="#444444">
<
tr><td>
THE_CODE_GOES_HERE
</td></tr>
</
table>
</
td></tr></table

Seems to work in IE6/Moz 1.2 (the 2 browsers I got installed here). Hm, the PHPQuote thingie in phpbb obviously isn't meant for dark backgrounds ;).

works in IE, but Mozilla and some others don't display it right... they like to push everything to the top...

Amputate Your Head 11-09-2002 03:43 AM

another thing that pisses me off about Mozilla is it completely ignores the margins I set... why I have no idea...

Amputate Your Head 11-09-2002 04:11 AM

okay.... should be viewable with Mozilla and the others now....
I still gotta fix a little css here, but nothing major... for the most part it's all better....

there's still frames.... but less of them. :winkwink:

Amputate Your Head 11-09-2002 04:13 AM

lol.... I've been shamed into compliance.... heh.... :helpme

ServerGenius 11-09-2002 04:21 AM

It sucks there are no pedes

DynaMite :321GFY

athena 11-09-2002 05:09 AM

this thread has been very informative. Now I see how much work I really have left on my sites.

Amp, I like the themes. :) and thumbs up on ecxellent acceptance of constructive criticism... alot of people would do well just to learn from that. kudos. :)

Amputate Your Head 11-09-2002 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by athena
this thread has been very informative. Now I see how much work I really have left on my sites.

Amp, I like the themes. :) and thumbs up on ecxellent acceptance of constructive criticism... alot of people would do well just to learn from that. kudos. :)

hey, that's the best kind.... it makes me better... :winkwink:

took me all night, but I think I'm finally 100% Mozilla compliant now... hehe... :glugglug

Amputate Your Head 11-09-2002 05:23 AM

Unseen:

with the mods I made tonight from the feedback here, the back button issue is gone now too... wasn't really a real back button manipulation, but definately a side effect.... anyway, it's fixed.

thanks everyone for all the input. Anything that makes me better is always good stuff. :)

athena 11-09-2002 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


hey, that's the best kind.... it makes me better... :winkwink:

took me all night, but I think I'm finally 100% Mozilla compliant now... hehe... :glugglug


hehe, I'll be tackling mine as soon as my main puter is done defragmenting. :)

turbo

Amputate Your Head 11-09-2002 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by athena



hehe, I'll be tackling mine as soon as my main puter is done defragmenting. :)

turbo

hehe.... have fun... it's been quite the ordeal over here with this thing.... :glugglug

Nydahl 11-09-2002 05:44 AM

I am not a designer but can say that's a fucking piece of art.You should have a street named amputate your head...
just two things - watrefalls animate would be great and second I haven't found my link in content providers :mad:

:thumbsup

Amputate Your Head 11-09-2002 05:52 AM

eru:

you're right..... it's all good in Opera too. I just downloaded it to check. Looked like some kinda issue at the bottom for a minute, but when I reloaded it, everything was groovy.


but I'm still not gonna use Opera as my browser.... hehehe..... :glugglug

Amputate Your Head 11-09-2002 05:55 AM

I take that back.... I just found an issue with opera.

Amputate Your Head 11-09-2002 05:58 AM

never mind..... easy fix.

Undutchable 11-09-2002 06:02 AM

Fuck that's sweet shit Amp, real smoov

One question though: How do you do that tropical theme? I could understand how you made the studio design but all the pictures in the tropical theme, I don't get that. Do you have a cartoonist at work or...?

Amputate Your Head 11-09-2002 12:47 PM

Undutchable:

some of it was from a new 3D rendering program (well, new to me that is) I've been playing around with here... hope to be able to do even more with it as I learn how to use it, but gawd those programs can be overly complex....

and alot of it is a combo of the same stuff I do with anything else... image libraries, manipulation, erasing, chopping, blending, and basically beating on it with a hammer... :winkwink:


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