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Old 11-25-2008, 07:15 PM   #1
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pacificrack or alphared ?

what do you recommend? alphared offers 2.5TB for 50 bucks, while pacificrack offers 2TB for 84 bucks.....

i've heard some shit has gone down with alphared, but read that their hosting business is still intact.....do any of you have hosting with them ?

pacificrack sounds reliable tooo.....many recommended that one.
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Old 11-25-2008, 07:17 PM   #2
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Did you live in a cave? ;) Read up on Alphared. Pacific rack is def. the way to go.
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Old 11-25-2008, 07:20 PM   #3
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PacificRack is a great deal.. I just chatted with someone from there and am going to get setup there myself
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Old 11-25-2008, 07:21 PM   #4
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don't listen to them. go with alphared dude. Top notch bros.
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Old 11-25-2008, 07:31 PM   #5
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don't listen to them. go with alphared dude. Top notch bros.
lol don't be an ass.
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Old 11-25-2008, 07:33 PM   #6
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Old 11-25-2008, 07:33 PM   #7
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Old 11-25-2008, 07:36 PM   #8
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what do you recommend? alphared offers 2.5TB for 50 bucks, while pacificrack offers 2TB for 84 bucks.....

i've heard some shit has gone down with alphared, but read that their hosting business is still intact.....do any of you have hosting with them ?

pacificrack sounds reliable tooo.....many recommended that one.
AR is indeed dead. I left because I was being forced to compromise my business ethics at the hands of complete crooks, and I knew their model was unsustainable. Two months after I left, they flopped.

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Did you live in a cave? ;) Read up on Alphared. Pacific rack is def. the way to go.
The statement that you get what you pay for is true, but there's a twist that not many people realize. True, companies like AR, and others still around today will try to offer you something so cheap, that you just wont be able to say no - and it will work. AR had hundreds of clients and pushed enormous amounts of bandwidth, fueled by ludicrously cheap prices.

The problem is that when you do that, you have to cut corners to make a buck. You're going to get garbage bandwidth, moron techs, slow speeds, slow ticket response time, crappy/dated/used servers etc. Despite the fact that these companies will disguise the grim finish beneath the glossy paint they spray over their offering, you will sooner or later come to realize the finer points of why they are indeed so cheap.

Companies that know you cant offer a $50 dedicated server and be taken seriously sometime fall victim to another pitfall, though. You'll run across some companies today that insist that even though they are well reputed, and are in all other aspects fantastic companies, that you must pay an exorbitant amount of money for their services.

This is a slippery psychological tactic geared toward the consumer who's smart enough to know not to fall for the $50 server trick. The trick is to convince this consumer that in order to feel safe buying what you can be sure is a quality service package from a host, you must be paying A LOT, compared to what the other hosts are offering. This, while geared toward a smaller audience - smaller than the droves who think $50 servers will be %100 reliable - is a far more profitable crop to attract.

I'm not going to pretend I'm without bias, but it is my sincere opinion that a host should offer the level of service and quality that today's top hosts do, without using the "Server for the Upper Class" tactic to take advantage of the consumer.

As for the $50 server pushers, I challenge all who take one to give it 6 months and see how the complaints will start stacking. I should know, I worked for a company like that, and it is with that perspective that I feel so strongly based in my feelings about the hosting biz today.

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Old 11-25-2008, 07:57 PM   #9
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I just moved to pacificrack a few weeks ago... very happy so far..
they did a decent job moving my sites.. had a few pitfalls, but solved most of them within a few days.. definitely put the effort in!
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Old 11-25-2008, 07:58 PM   #10
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i have a question...what is burstable bandwith mean ?
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Old 11-25-2008, 08:07 PM   #11
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Burst = means you have this speed available during peak traffic. You can f.ex burst up to 30 mbits when you, occasionally, need it.
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Old 11-25-2008, 08:08 PM   #12
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Old 11-25-2008, 08:15 PM   #13
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Burst = means you have this speed available during peak traffic. You can f.ex burst up to 30 mbits when you, occasionally, need it.
it also means you are liable for any overages (overusage) past whatever your base commitment of bandwidth is, typically on the industry standard of 95th percentile.
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Old 11-25-2008, 08:18 PM   #14
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so what is better? a capped bandwith server, or a unmetered server? if one gets around 10,000 and more visits a day (around 150~200gb in bandwith daily), like on youjav, would it 10mbps be okay ?
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Old 11-25-2008, 08:20 PM   #15
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not if you are doing 200gb of TRANSFER DAILY, because thats 6000gb TRANSFER which equals roughly 30Mbps of BANDWIDTH

bandwidth is a capacity amount
transfer is the amount pushed through that capacity

like water in a water hose. the hose is the bandwidth, the water is the transfer.
the hose only has 100mbps of capacity and in 1 month you will only be able to push a certain amount of transfer through that specific sized hole.

theoretical numbers equate 1mbps into 320gb, but that is if you are doing 1Mbps FLAT (without going below or above, EVER) for 1 month. then it is 320GB/month. if you dip (and you will cause your traffic will come and go) below the 1mbps you will get less transfer out of that 1Mbps.
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Old 11-25-2008, 08:21 PM   #16
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150gb daily? do the math - thats 4.5TB per month = 14mbit or so continously...
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:50 PM   #17
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6000 gigs is roughly 19mbps
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Old 11-25-2008, 10:03 PM   #18
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Old 11-25-2008, 11:22 PM   #19
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like water in a water hose. the hose is the bandwidth, the water is the transfer.
the hose only has 100mbps of capacity and in 1 month you will only be able to push a certain amount of transfer through that specific sized hole.
That`s language this farmer understands
why make it difficult when you can explain it all so simple
Water hose... of course ...
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Old 11-25-2008, 11:58 PM   #21
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That`s language this farmer understands
why make it difficult when you can explain it all so simple
Water hose... of course ...
We need to make a car analogy out of this now....
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Old 11-26-2008, 12:06 AM   #22
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a tunnel can only fit so many cars through...
the tunnel is bandwidth(Mbps), the cars are transfer (GB)......
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Old 11-26-2008, 12:23 AM   #23
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funny thread... so who wants to host my illegal script w/ illegal content?

whats the formula for the Gb/Mbps anyway?
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excellent stuff. thanks guys!
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Old 11-27-2008, 08:45 PM   #25
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yea i discovered ppl were still getting invoice after they cancelled account....@ alphared....that is alarming
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the tunnel is bandwidth(Mbps), the cars are transfer (GB)......
This thread fully delivers.
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a tunnel can only fit so many cars through...
the tunnel is bandwidth(Mbps), the cars are transfer (GB)......
Going further, wouldn't the bandwidth be the number of lanes in the tunnel?
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thanks do u have the link ? or just paste it in my visitor wall

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