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hypedough 01-29-2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by InternetIsForPorn (Post 15076347)
Seriously, Gmail just robbed a company from a great deal I wanted to give them.

We had this long email discussion regarding me giving some great business to another company.

And just when I am about to send in the confirmation email, I see this ad in gmail.

Click, find a company that would do the same but for greater margins for me and that's it.

That company lost out on a great deal.

Do you think it's fair that gmail scans your emails like that?


I had a similar experience with a print-job. I totally went with the cheaper ad, they were even local!

CIVMatt 01-29-2009 01:56 PM

Why the hell would anyone do business on a free email account? If I see someone's email come in from gmail, yahoo, or hotmail I immediately take them less serious

papill0n 01-29-2009 01:56 PM

You mean google is trying to make money out of that free service they provide?

Outrageous!

TheDoc 01-29-2009 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcb420 (Post 15408856)
i'm still at a loss as to why anyone would use any free mail service instead of their own me@mywebsite addy......

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Originally Posted by CIVMatt (Post 15408943)
Why the hell would anyone do business on a free email account? If I see someone's email come in from gmail, yahoo, or hotmail I immediately take them less serious

I keep my admin, domain, accounting accounts.... business stuff.. on my main email accounts.

I use gmail for web forms, social sites, programs, blogs, membership purchases, anything that can and probably will get spam, goes here.

Now I don't have to sort through program bs, social spam, blog comment crap, membership ex-member spam, and all that bullshit. Google deals with it, and I get 99% spam free email without having to lift a finger.

You can also forward [email protected] to google and send back out from that address, so it never says @gmail. It's also a great backup when your host, mail server or the internet is being stupid.

CaptainHowdy 01-29-2009 03:38 PM

Get back to your POP3 account :)!

Rochard 01-29-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 15077411)
I use gmail a hundred times a day and can't remember the last time I noticed an ad.

I use gmail for email, documents, and the other stuff. I've never noticed the ads either. I've completely trained myself to ignore ads. It's very rare that I even notice them even on my own sites.

This is the entire purpose of gmail. It's targeted ads.

perfectodollars-gabrio 01-29-2009 04:43 PM

how about having your own mail instead? then you're in control. i personally use gmail just for emergencies or if i travel and i dont carry my laptop. install on your server a client such as Squirrel Mail and it's done.

tony286 01-29-2009 04:51 PM

Maybe have business deal discussions on the phone so you can lock it instead of email.

Doctor Feelgood 01-29-2009 04:56 PM

whats funny is when i check the spam folder and theres an advertismant for spam recipes

lagcam 01-29-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15408343)
Not really.



Forgive me if I am wrong, but I seem to recall that they never hid that and that using their email allowed them to track your habits enough to spam you properly.

http://mail.google.com/mail/help/privacy.html

You are dead right.

This has never been a secret. I have always been aware of this and its why I never use it.

Just because other free email providers don't target their ads as well as google, doesn't mean they are not still scannning your emails.

As somebody else said in the thread..... "no such thing as a free lunch"

ModelPerfect 01-29-2009 05:02 PM

From their privacy notice (referenced by Baddog):
"# Google maintains and processes your Gmail account and its contents to provide the Gmail service to you and to improve our services. The Gmail service includes relevant advertising and related links based on the IP address, content of messages and other information related to your use of Gmail.
"# Google's computers process the information in your messages for various purposes, including formatting and displaying the information to you, delivering advertisements and related links, preventing unsolicited bulk email (spam), backing up your messages, and other purposes relating to offering you Gmail."

I never really thought about how that would steal business from gmail users, but certainly the danger is there. I love gmail, but that aspect makes me a little hesitant...

woj 01-29-2009 05:02 PM

yea, it is pretty messed up indeed...

jmcb420 01-29-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 15408961)
I keep my admin, domain, accounting accounts.... business stuff.. on my main email accounts.

I use gmail for web forms, social sites, programs, blogs, membership purchases, anything that can and probably will get spam, goes here.

Now I don't have to sort through program bs, social spam, blog comment crap, membership ex-member spam, and all that bullshit. Google deals with it, and I get 99% spam free email without having to lift a finger.

You can also forward [email protected] to google and send back out from that address, so it never says @gmail. It's also a great backup when your host, mail server or the internet is being stupid.


I agree, for general shit mail that I know is going to get spammed to hell, I also have a yahoo adress, I check it once a month or if I just signde up to someting and dont wanna deal with all the shit that comes with........

But I would never approach anyone I intend to do business with through the use of g-mail, yahoo, aol, or any such shit. And anyone who approaches me through such means should expect that I might not take them to seriously, if I do at all.

Miz_Wright 01-30-2009 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15408343)
Forgive me if I am wrong, but I seem to recall that they never hid that and that using their email allowed them to track your habits enough to spam you properly.

http://mail.google.com/mail/help/privacy.html

Yeh, that was one of the major concerns about using Gmail at its outset, as I recall.

Here are a buncha things that have always been problematic:
http://oreilly.com/pub/wlg/4707
http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/GmailAGadvisory.htm
http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/

roly 01-30-2009 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut (Post 15076534)
Most people would complain if the mail service was opeing your mail and sticking flyers in it but don't even shrug when Google does it, and with your correspondence saved for them to use for however long, it's even worse.

but you pay for the mail service, gmail is free

The Nerd 01-30-2009 10:16 AM

Never use a freee email service for anything remotely important or private...:2 cents:

baddog 01-30-2009 11:08 AM

Nothing is free. If you think it is, read the fine print.

Imortyl Pussycat 01-30-2009 11:17 AM

SPIDERS, they're just as scary on the internet.

Doctor Dre 01-30-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jmcb420 (Post 15409672)
But I would never approach anyone I intend to do business with through the use of g-mail, yahoo, aol, or any such shit. And anyone who approaches me through such means should expect that I might not take them to seriously, if I do at all.

You're a dumbass then... I've seen million dollar businesses use hotmail.

SeanHart 01-30-2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15076357)
I talk about some crazy shit in my gmail and google ALWAYS has an ad that is on topic with what I'm talking about.

Strange.

That would explain the ads for the tranny dating sites...

seeric 01-30-2009 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InternetIsForPorn (Post 15076347)
Seriously, Gmail just robbed a company from a great deal I wanted to give them.

We had this long email discussion regarding me giving some great business to another company.

And just when I am about to send in the confirmation email, I see this ad in gmail.

Click, find a company that would do the same but for greater margins for me and that's it.

That company lost out on a great deal.

Do you think it's fair that gmail scans your emails like that?

solution: use a real email setup on your own domain. free email services are not free.

Reak AGV 01-30-2009 12:08 PM

They are placing ads based on the subject of your conversation, that's not stealing is it?


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